GUI Tool to Easily Convert AAC to MP3

2011-03-10 Thread Jeremy Bartle
I agree that AAC is a higher quality format, but the poor quality of
MP3 files is irrelevant to me as I only listen to speech radio and I
reduce the quality even further to keep the files small.  I find that
56kbits/s at 22,050Hz stereo is fine for listening on my MP3 player.
So I have been looking for an easy way to convert from AAC to MP3.

I have found a GUI front end for FFMPEG called WinFF which works very
well for me (Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit).  It allows you to select a
group of files in the GUI and then uses FFMPEG to perform the
conversion.

I haven't tested this, but it also claims to work for Windows 95, 98 ,
ME, NT, XP, VISTA, and Debian, Ubuntu, Redhat based GNU/Linux
distributions.

It appears to be completely free - I can't find any way of making a donation.

The web-site is: http://winff.org/html_new/

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Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Andy Bircumshaw

On 10/3/2011, at 11:00pm, Christopher Woods (CustomMade) wrote:
>> ...
>> get_iplayer's .aac files are, admittedly, in a bad or broken 
>> container.
>> That does need fixing, although it should be pretty easy.
> 
> If you're more of a GUI person (like me, albeit purely out of laziness)
> FLVExtract makes light work of extracting the .aac files from the .flv
> wrappers. Drag, drop, done.

Well, at present I think get_iplayer tries to remux and is doing it wrong. I 
believe it is broken.

Surely you must be using --raw to get the .flv files?

I think that, by default, using `--radiomode flashaachigh,flashaacstd` you get 
these files with an .aac extension which don't work on some systems (Mac 
Quicktime Player, Windows Media Player?). Convert them using the command I gave 
before and they still have an .aac extension, but they play in those media 
players (I think).

What slightly bothers me is that get_iplayer probably adds metadata, "artist" 
and "title" tags, to the .aac file - probably even a show thumbnail. Converting 
blindly with `mplayer -dumpaudio` will surely lose that, so the longer I'm lazy 
and ignoring fixing the problem, the larger my collection of shows with 
potentially-missing tags becomes. 

aB.


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RE: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Christopher Woods (CustomMade)
 

> -Original Message-
> From: get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org 
> [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of 
> Andy Bircumshaw
> Sent: 10 March 2011 21:15
> To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?
> 
> 
> On 10/3/2011, at 9:03pm, ZULU wrote:
> > ...
> > FWIW, I find .aac a pain in the rear end, simply because my 
> mp3 player ignores them, so I have to fart about transcoding 
> them first.
> 
> get_iplayer's .aac files are, admittedly, in a bad or broken 
> container.
> That does need fixing, although it should be pretty easy.

If you're more of a GUI person (like me, albeit purely out of laziness)
FLVExtract makes light work of extracting the .aac files from the .flv
wrappers. Drag, drop, done.


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Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Andy Bircumshaw

On 10/3/2011, at 9:03pm, ZULU wrote:
> ...
> FWIW, I find .aac a pain in the rear end, simply because my mp3 player 
> ignores them, so I have to fart about transcoding them first.

get_iplayer's .aac files are, admittedly, in a bad or broken container.
That does need fixing, although it should be pretty easy.

You may find the player recognises them after you do:

mplayer -ao null -vo null -dumpaudio -dumpfile audio_file_fixed.aac 
original_audio_file.aac

aB.


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RE: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Christopher Woods (CustomMade)

> 
> On 10/3/2011, at 5:12pm, Chris Marriott wrote:
> > ...
> > Same here. Luckily, downloading as "flashaacstd" seems to work, and 
> > iTunes converts the resulting AAC files to MP3 easily enough, but 
> > still it's a bit of a nuisance. We seem to be having things chipped 
> > away, one thing at a time.
> 
> I don't really see much cause for complaint.
> 
> MP3 might be inconvenient for you, but the AAC files are 
> better quality.
> The BBC are not "chipping something away" here (only 
> *perhaps* removing a poorer format).

Wholeheartedly agree - the BBC's own MP3 encodes are vastly inferior in
audio quality to their AAC counterparts. I've done comparison and analysis
of this in the past; the relevant post is on the list archives:

http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2011-February/000865.html

Listen to the audio file I've linked to to hear the quality difference.
Transcoding using your own application will likely give you a better result;
at the least, you still have the original (and highest) quality AAC file to
refer back to should you wish to transcode it differently again. The BBC's
MP3 transcoding quality on iPlayer audio files is simply dire, I'm glad it's
dying a death.


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Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Andy Bircumshaw

On 10/3/2011, at 5:12pm, Chris Marriott wrote:
> ...
> Same here. Luckily, downloading as “flashaacstd” seems to work, and iTunes
> converts the resulting AAC files to MP3 easily enough, but still it’s a bit
> of a nuisance. We seem to be having things chipped away, one thing at a
> time.

I don't really see much cause for complaint.

MP3 might be inconvenient for you, but the AAC files are better quality.
The BBC are not "chipping something away" here (only *perhaps* removing a 
poorer format).

If the problem is with get_iplayer, then, yes, get_iplayer is going to suffer 
from bitrot.
No-one wants to maintain it.

So if the BBC change the iPlayer website in some way, get_iplayer will not be 
updated to accommodate that unless you or I make suitable changes to 
get_iplayer's program code.

To write get_iplayer again from scratch would be a *huge* undertaking. It would 
cost you £ thousands to commission it as a paying job from a programmer.

We can assess this further when we know more about the future of iPlayer and 
Project Canvas / YouView.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouView

aB.


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Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread Chris Marriott


-Original Message- 
From: ZULU

Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 10:24 AM
To: Jeremy Bartle ; get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?


Yestoday (March 10th)
BBC 4 *Afternoon Play* downloaded as .aac instead if .mp3
<_very_ annoying!>



My *Recording* settings are :
flashaudio,flashhd,flashvhigh,flashaachigh,flashaacstd,flashhigh,flashstd,flashnormal,realaudio,flashaaclow



I use the WebPVR Manager in Windows XP Pro



Please excuse typos. VIP



Rog


Same here. Luckily, downloading as “flashaacstd” seems to work, and iTunes
converts the resulting AAC files to MP3 easily enough, but still it’s a bit
of a nuisance. We seem to be having things chipped away, one thing at a
time.

Anyone know WHY “flashaudio” mode no longer works?

Cheers,

Chris


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Re: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?

2011-03-10 Thread ZULU


- Original Message - 
From: "Jeremy Bartle" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 3:33 AM
Subject: Flashaudio no longer available for Radio 4?



When I tried to download some BBC Radio 7 and BBC Radio 4 programmes
today using flashaudio mode, the BBC 7 ones worked as normal, but the
BBC Radio 4 programmes were not found using this mode.  I eventually
downloaded them using flashaacstd1, which is inconvenient as I then
had to convert them to MP3.  Has anyone else had this problem?


Yestoday (March 10th)
BBC 4 *Afternoon Play* downloaded as .aac instead if .mp3
<_very_ annoying!>

My *Recording* settings are :
flashaudio,flashhd,flashvhigh,flashaachigh,flashaacstd,flashhigh,flashstd,flashnormal,realaudio,flashaaclow

I use the WebPVR Manager in Windows XP Pro

Please excuse typos. VIP

Rog


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