Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On 2016-02-17, 21:19, Peter S Kirk wrote: Show some manners and do not post expletives. Show some class and don't just dismiss stuff as "arty rubbish". -- David Cantrell ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On 16 Feb 2016 at 22:40, Dennis Smith Dennis Smith wrote: > Parliament TV has almost > no viewers and continues to run without interruption. Costs very little. BBC3, BBC Alba and the many other local and national BBC radio cost a lot. imho Alba and all UK Radio except R4 and maybe R2 should be stopped and let private sector provide alternaives. Sorry, this is OT GiP and should be on a GiP chat group. - Web Hosting and VPS provided by HostSlim https://clients.hostslim.eu/aff.php?aff=079 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On 17 Feb 2016 at 15:18, David Cantrell David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:00:49PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > > > BBC4 used to be offer a reasonable range of programmes, but last year or so > > it has degenerated to arty Yentob type rubbish. > > Tonight's schedule: > > World news today > Grand tours of Scotland > Horizon > The Bermuda triangle > The boy in the striped pyjamas > Horizon (again) > Timeshift > Dancing in the blitz > Good swan bad swan: dancing Swan Lake > > they're doing a f***ing awful job of "arty Yentob type rubbish" there. > Looks to me like a fairly decent selection of different genres of > informative Stuff with some decent quality entertainment as well. I > expect that if any of that is an utter stinker it'll be the Bermuda > triangle thing, which isn't exactly "arty Yentob type" stuff even if it > does turn out to be rubbish. Perhaps I should have included the word "New" in >> a reasonable range of "New" programmes Show some manners and do not post expletives. Tonight's schedule after 1930 is all repeats - Web Hosting and VPS provided by HostSlim https://clients.hostslim.eu/aff.php?aff=079 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Odd fetching of radio
On Wed Feb 17 17:48:09 GMT 2016, Jim Lesurf wrote: --type=radio --mode-dashhigh --force --no-tag --pid (snip) However the 'DNA's third man' seems to have an odd programme pid. I can't seem to get this at all. Anyone able to diagnose/help? I'm trying to use DASH to get 320k versions. Hi Jim :-) Not being able right now to troubleshoot your other issues, but as far as 'DNA's third man' (pid=b05zl1bj) is concerned, the beeb (for reasons only known to them) has not made available this show in either AdobeHDS nor MPEG-DASH streams. you can check for yourself by visiting the following mediaselector URL: (where dash would've appeared - only RTMP currently) http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/pc/vpid/b05zkzpq/atk/58f86c5048af43a13fc2186d0fc8d8d99aa16e7d/asn/1/ (where HLS is found) http://open.live.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/5/select/version/2.0/mediaset/apple-ipad-hls/vpid/b05zkzpq/atk/58f86c5048af43a13fc2186d0fc8d8d99aa16e7d/asn/1/ So for that specific one, you'd have to settle with --radiomode=flash (/hls) which will fetch a 128kbps (AAC LC) m4a file. When in doubt, please do: get_iplayer --type=radio --pid -i | grep modes for available modes for a given PID. One more note: 2.95 dev is undocumented, unsupported and undergoing frequent modifications, especially into what affects HLS/DASH downloads. Simply stating: using the 2.95 developmental version is of little actual help to hopeful debuggers, if you do not also quote the exact snapshot (commit hash) of the main script (get_iplayer) (of the develop branch) currently using in your system. Many regards, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Re: Only 96kbps in UK
On Wed Feb 17 13:05:09 BST 2016, James Scholes wrote: Not for this particular program, no. I've been through all the available mediasets, 96K is the best bitrate on offer. BBC World Service does NOT impose geo-filtering; you get the same stream globally! And they still stream only via RTMP or AppleHLS (no AdobeHDS, nor MPEG-DASH). Some months ago, both the "Listen Live" & "On-Demand" WS streams were only @64kbps HE-AACv1, but they got, in autumn last year, the "Audio Factory" treatment and are now both available at two qualities, 96 & 48 kbps HE-AACv1! Cheers, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Odd fetching of radio
Apart from the recent hiccup, fetching TV programmes has been fine here. However in the last few days I've had some unusual behaviour showing up when trying to fetch sound radio programmes. One aspect of this is *very* slow fetches. However I tend to get radio programmes during the day when connections here tend to be slow. (I get TV before 9am when things are quicker.) But I get particularly strange behaviour from the items linked from http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06vy2jd/episodes/player I'm fetching using the 2.95 developmental version recommended for DASH a while ago and using the options --type=radio --mode-dashhigh --force --no-tag --pid Some examples - eg the 'Leviathan' episode give me a partial file name that includes an extra '.' in the name (in addition to .m4a.m4a at the end). And fail to be 'cleaned' into the usual form. I can clean them using ffmpeg -acodec copy after the event, though. But I'm guessing the stray '.' may be confusing the routine cleanup? On other occasions the fetch seems to restart because of a delay, but that may be the slw connections. However the 'DNA's third man' seems to have an odd programme pid. I can't seem to get this at all. Anyone able to diagnose/help? I'm trying to use DASH to get 320k versions. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Bug hopefully not affecting GiP
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:59:40AM +, CJB wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35592916 get_iplayer won't be affected unless any of the hostnames that it queries for are malicious. You'd have to be a paranoid nutter to worry about the BBC and their hosting partners* doing that. * and whoever runs your DNS server, etc -- David Cantrell | Cake Smuggler Extraordinaire I caught myself pulling grey hairs out of my beard. I'm definitely not going grey, but I am going vain. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:00:49PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > BBC4 used to be offer a reasonable range of programmes, but last year or so > it has degenerated to arty Yentob type rubbish. Tonight's schedule: World news today Grand tours of Scotland Horizon The Bermuda triangle The boy in the striped pyjamas Horizon (again) Timeshift Dancing in the blitz Good swan bad swan: dancing Swan Lake they're doing a fucking awful job of "arty Yentob type rubbish" there. Looks to me like a fairly decent selection of different genres of informative Stuff with some decent quality entertainment as well. I expect that if any of that is an utter stinker it'll be the Bermuda triangle thing, which isn't exactly "arty Yentob type" stuff even if it does turn out to be rubbish. -- David Cantrell | Official London Perl Mongers Bad Influence Erudite is when you make a classical allusion to a feather. Kinky is when you use the whole chicken. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:26:26AM +, CJB wrote: > And I wonder if the BBC 3 yoof market can be ar$ed to watch > stuff 'live' too. Isn't that the whole point of putting the content online instead? Surely they're not being so stupid as to just replace it with a stream with a schedule? -- David Cantrell | Bourgeois reactionary pig Vegetarian: n: a person who, due to malnutrition caused by poor lifestyle choices, is eight times more likely to catch TB than a normal person ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 09:17:17AM +, CJB wrote: > To cater for the yoof market BBC 3 is going online only. However this is on > the proviso that all ex-BBC 3 programmes are aired at least once on the > 'mature' channels BBC 1 / 2 / 4. Way back when the iPlayer was first mooted, that there was some concern that content would go iPlayer-only and thus not be accessible to all licence-payers, and so the BBC's Charter obliged the BBC to broadcast all programmes before they were on iPlayer. Given that the original iPlayer was a nasty little application that barely worked and had to be thrown away and done over, this was a very wise decision. So requiring a "repeat" on the remaining channels would appear to be how the BBC are satisfying the letter of the charter. It's also a reasonable choice, as a lot of linear TV watching still goes on. A minor bonus is that BBC 1 and 2 are carried on some foreign cable networks, and so this programming now becomes available to them, where before they were prevented from watching it on iPlayer. (I assume the BBC are being paid for this, but it seems unlikely that they're getting anything like £145.50/year out of a €41/month quad-play subscription.) > This latter is to the disgust of older than average licence fee payers - > there's too much 'yoof' stuff on ITV as it is - now the Beeb is following the > trend. Huh - just how many times do you want to watch "Don't Tell The Bride'? > But that's moving to Sky 1 later this year. The actual demographic target for BBC Three is 16-34, the upper end of which isn't exactly youthful. The next band thus beginst at 35, which can argued be be the onset of middle age, where one can be a miserable git banging on about "yoof". > Anyway I've just done a GiP cache refresh for Radio and TV and the former was > as long as usual, the latter quite short. I didn't notice TV being particularly short as it scrolled past on the screen, but I tend not to pay much attention to it as I mostly only listen to Radio 4. But Christmas is over, and it's just going to be months of filler and repeats on TV until autumn rolls around again, so there will be fewer new PIDs to go into your cache. > BTW I wonder if the recent outages were caused by the Beeb engineers removing > BBC 3 content from the iPlayer servers? The moot point being whether BBC 3 > online content will be available via iPlayer and get_iplayer? It'll obviously be available via iPlayer but for now, you'll need to download by PID. However, if the BBC didn't think it worth broadcasting, it's probably not worth watching. > Family Guy is moving to BBC 2 AND ITV 2!!! Yet American Dad seems to be left > out. If you're that bothered, just buy the DVDs and then you can watch it whenever you want. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
On 17 February 2016 at 13:03, Rochford, Steve wrote: >> And I wonder if the BBC 3 yoof market can be ar$ed to watch stuff 'live' >> too. Somehow with modern lives so ephemeral I doubt it. >> Massive FAIL for the Beeb. CJB > > Surely the reason that BBC3 is going on-line only is because younger people > don't watch live TV but they do watch stuff on tablets, phones etc at a time > that suits them. It wouldn't surprise me to find that live audiences for some > of the BBC3 programmes were vanishingly small but if you include the on-line > audience then you get good numbers. I believe the principle reason is that they need to cut costs. Colin ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: BBC 3 goes off-air tonight.
> And I wonder if the BBC 3 yoof market can be ar$ed to watch stuff 'live' too. > Somehow with modern lives so ephemeral I doubt it. > Massive FAIL for the Beeb. CJB Surely the reason that BBC3 is going on-line only is because younger people don't watch live TV but they do watch stuff on tablets, phones etc at a time that suits them. It wouldn't surprise me to find that live audiences for some of the BBC3 programmes were vanishingly small but if you include the on-line audience then you get good numbers. Steve ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Only 96kbps in UK
CJB wrote: > Normally the default for flashaacstd1 is 128kbps - this one is only 96kbps. > > Is there a way of getting a higher bit rate please? Not for this particular program, no. I've been through all the available mediasets, 96K is the best bitrate on offer. -- James Scholes http://twitter.com/JamesScholes ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Only 96kbps in UK
Just downloaded this one in the UK for listening to on a long commute. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03dzcf7 INFO: Trying flashaacstd1 mode to record radio: Music Extra - Back on Highway 61 Normally the default for flashaacstd1 is 128kbps - this one is only 96kbps. Is there a way of getting a higher bit rate please? Thanks - Chris B. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Bug hopefully not affecting GiP
hello Roger; I was joking! I have been using Unix since AT&T Version 7 and Linux since Linus started writing it. All the Pi's are updated and running along happily. All the Macs are updated No Windows Virus Here ! On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 2:58 AM, Roger Bell_West wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:59:40AM +, CJB wrote: >>http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35592916 > > If you have a Linux box, you should be keeping it updated; the patch > was available last night. A Raspberry Pi is a Linux box. As root: > aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- terry l. ridder ><> ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Bug hopefully not affecting GiP
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 01:59:40AM +, CJB wrote: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35592916 If you have a Linux box, you should be keeping it updated; the patch was available last night. A Raspberry Pi is a Linux box. As root: aptitude update, aptitude upgrade. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
