Re: BBC Licensing Expose
I have tried so hard to stay of this one, but my will has been sapped... On 01/03/2017 21:15, Peter S Kirk wrote: On 28 Feb 2017 at 22:40, michael norman michael norman wrote: Best thing might be not to post links from the Mail which hates the BBC to a pro BBC list. As others have said the Mail is not a reliable source for anything. The Mail is a reliable source for news BBC/Grun refuse to report and for Investigative Journalism such as this Capita behaviour story. Previous include Charity fund raising extortion. Yes, there are things on which the DM has reported and others haven't. One of the reasons is that [perhaps more so with the website than the papers(s)], so much of what is published is not verified/verifiable. That aside, the example your example about Capita is unforunate as it was broken ages before by Private Eye, which is where the DM picks up many of its better stories (and usually fails to attribute them). But it would no doubt be a step too far to expect you to recognise this as I have little doubt that you would brand PE as 'ultra left'. To dismiss everything in DM as "fake news", "right-wing", "extremist" is as nonsensical as stating every article in The Grun is true facts. Don't forget DM editor was pro Brexit, Mail On Sunday editor was pro Remain. Your point about the opposing Brexit views of the DM and the MoS is correct - but basically because the two editors hate each other with a vengeance which over-rides any possibility of them coming to a common viewpoint - and not just on Europe. If DM/MoS were as bad/fake as so many claim they would be bust rather than profitable highest selling non-RedTop. We need a wide range of published news and views, but there has to be some accountability for 'false news' (as opposed to 'views' & editorials) and it is difficult to see that happening whilstever our press is effectively owned by 'non-doms' and others who are allowed to exploit our tax loopholes for their own advantage. That goes for Murdoch, Rothermere, the Barclay Brothers, Lebedev and others - & I do not exclude the Guardian from this list as some of the Scott Trust business is off-shored too. Can we please now put these rants to an end? No-one is going to persuade anyone else to change their views so what is the point? It's just filling my mail box with bile... Nic ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: BBC Licensing Expose
To quote Reeves and Mortimer, "You wouldn't let it lie"! -Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Peter S Kirk Sent: 01 March 2017 21:16 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: BBC Licensing Expose On 28 Feb 2017 at 22:40, michael norman michael norman wrote: > Best thing might be not to post links from the Mail which hates the > BBC to a pro BBC list. As others have said the Mail is not a reliable > source for anything. The Mail is a reliable source for news BBC/Grun refuse to report and for Investigative Journalism such as this Capita behaviour story. Previous include Charity fund raising extortion. To dismiss everything in DM as "fake news", "right-wing", "extremist" is as nonsensical as stating every article in The Grun is true facts. Don't forget DM editor was pro Brexit, Mail On Sunday editor was pro Remain. If DM/MoS were as bad/fake as so many claim they would be bust rather than profitable highest selling non-RedTop. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14042 - Release Date: 03/01/17 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC Licensing Expose
On 28 Feb 2017 at 22:40, michael norman michael norman wrote: > Best thing might be not to post links from the Mail which hates the BBC > to a pro BBC list. As others have said the Mail is not a reliable source > for anything. The Mail is a reliable source for news BBC/Grun refuse to report and for Investigative Journalism such as this Capita behaviour story. Previous include Charity fund raising extortion. To dismiss everything in DM as "fake news", "right-wing", "extremist" is as nonsensical as stating every article in The Grun is true facts. Don't forget DM editor was pro Brexit, Mail On Sunday editor was pro Remain. If DM/MoS were as bad/fake as so many claim they would be bust rather than profitable highest selling non-RedTop. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Tag option "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle"
Trying to keep this list on the subject of get_iplayer, I have only partially answered my own original question. The required syntax seems to be "--prefs-add --tag-format-title=" (note the equals sign). I have tried "title", "name", "longname" plus several others from the Substitution Parameter list. Get_iplayer accepts these as valid options and updates the "options" file. However when downloading a programme, the Title is simply shown as the word "title", "name" or "longname". Looking at the Options file, I see a line, for example, "tag_formattitle name". If I edit this to show "tag_formattitle=name" then at least I get a tag in the recorded programme which usually is just the Episode name. It could be that there is a bug which incorrectly adds the preference to the options file by omitting the "=" sign. Secondly whatever substitution parameter I use, I can only get the Episode name. This begs the question, are the substitution parameters working correct? I am still desperately looking for a tagging option that replicates the old "fulltitle" option. Any help, suggestions etc would be welcome excluding any daily newspaper reading suggestions (sorry about this, I must bite my tongue and keep on-topic) Regards Simon Morgan > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of Simon Morgan > Sent: 14 February 2017 08:08 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: RE: Tag option "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" > > I am still not getting any success with tagging downloaded programmes. > > "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" used to work producing the result I > wanted however in spite of SquarePenguin's comments, it doesn't work > for me returning "--tag-fulltitle " Unknown option. (My quote marks) > > I then tried "--tag-format-title " and here I am probably being > stupid but I am not sure of the correct syntax for the substitution > parameter. > > Using the pointed brackets as shown produces "the syntax of the command > is incorrect" which doesn't surprise me. > > Next I tried "--tag-format-title title" which is not rejected but the > programme recorded now has the Title "title" (again without quotes). > Clearly NOT what is required. > > Lastly I tried using "--tag-format-title -title" which produces a list > of all the programmes in the cache! > > Can someone please help an old fool get the equivalent of "fulltitle" > showning the syntax so I can just copy and paste. > > Thanks in anticipation. > > Simon Morgan > > > --- > - > > > -Original Message- > > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > > Behalf Of SquarePenguin > > Sent: 11 February 2017 13:54 > > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > Subject: Re: Tag option "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" > > > > On 11/02/17 11:11, Simon Morgan wrote: > > > In v2.97 and earlier, I used "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" to > > > create an "option" entry that tagged my downloads with their full > title. > > This > > > no longer seems to work in v2.98 so can someone help me with the > > > equivalent syntax. > > > > That should still work, the wiki suggests that that is the correct > > thing to do[0]. > > > > A possible workaround if it is failing... > > > > The wiki would also suggest that episodes are tagged with the > > as title by default[1], which is simply the episode > > name minus the episode number. > > > > You can change the title using the --tag-format-title detailed in the > > tagging options and choose the field to apply from the substitution > > parameters[2]. From that substitution parameter list you should be > > able to construct a suitable result, chaining parameters together if > > you wish. > > > > So you could try: > > > > --tag-format-title > > > > That would seemingly achieve the same thing --tag-fulltitle would but > > via a different route. > > > > [0] https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/tagging > > > > [1] https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/manpage#tagging- > > options > > > > [2] > > https://github.com/get- > > iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/documentation#substitution-parameters > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Tag option equivalent to --prefs-add --tag-fulltitle
Trying to keep this list on the subject of get_iplayer, I have only partially answered my own original question. The required syntax seems to be "--prefs-add --tag-format-title=" (note the equals sign). I have tried "title", "name", "longname" plus several others from the Substitution Parameter list. Get_iplayer accepts these as valid options and updates the "options" file. However when downloading a programme, the Title is simply shown as the word "title", "name" or "longname". Looking at the Options file, I see a line, for example, "tag_formattitle name". If I edit this to show "tag_formattitle=name" then at least I get a tag in the recorded programme which usually is just the Episode name. It could be that there is a bug which incorrectly adds the preference to the options file by omitting the "=" sign. Secondly whatever substitution parameter I use, I can only get the Episode name. This begs the question, are the substitution parameters working correct? I am still desperately looking for a tagging option that replicates the old "fulltitle" option. Any help, suggestions etc would be welcome excluding any daily newspaper reading suggestions (sorry about this, I must bite my tongue and keep on-topic) Regards Simon Morgan > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of Simon Morgan > Sent: 15 February 2017 15:24 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: RE: Tag option equivalent to --prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" > > I'm afraid that this old pensioner (not too old!) is still struggling > to set a tagging preference. I think I need either "name" or "longname" > as the substitution parameter' > > However I do not know the correct syntax!, mostly returning "unknown > option" > when used in conjunction with "--prefs-add" > > --tag-fulltitle no long works and returns the error "unknown option" > > --tag-format-longname ditto > > --tag-format-title give the programme the name "longname" > > With or without the < > brackets, the "parameter" is just used as the > downloaded programme's name which obviously is NOT what I want. > > I would really appreciated if someone would relieve me of my ignorance > and spell out the exact syntax so my downloads get the "fulltitle" I > used to get when added to my preferences/options. > > Thanks > > Simon Morgan > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > > Behalf Of Simon Morgan > > Sent: 14 February 2017 09:42 > > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > Subject: RE: Tag option "--prefs-add --tag-fulltitle" > > > > > > Ref my previous message on this subject, I should have added that I > am > > using > > v2.99 on a Windows Home Server 2011 box. I also almost exclusively > use > > the web PVR interface. > > > > Rgds > > Simon Morgan > > > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: BBC Licensing Expose
I agree. The original post was interesting reading at first and I appreciate people's "you shouldn't believe everything you read" attitude but now this has deteriorated into a squabble over a newspaper and I find it incredibly boring. When's the last time get_iplayer was actually mentioned in this mailing list? Regards Kevin McCarthy P.S.I'm also a member of that same group, Roger. > On 01 March 2017 at 10:25 Roger Tricker wrote: > > Hi All, > > I post very little of value, on here, but please allow me to comment. > I have been a member of a group that purports to be 'in the top two > percentile' but this is only on one specific measurement scale, which did > not, necessarily, prove that I had, or could use, common sense or consider > that a variety of opinions could be acceptable. > In my younger days, I was often told that I knew a lot of facts, but could > only see 'black or white', sometimes with proof, but other times with only > limited information on which to base my view. > > As I have aged, I have stepped back from such extreme decisions and realised > that much of what surrounds us is only 'opinion' not fact and falls in to a > grey area. > We are all entitled to our opinions and have the right to attempt to inform > others but we do not have the right to insist that one person's view must be > accepted by others. > Please show tolerance for the views of others, however different they may be > from yours. > > Can we please, now, stop this unnecessary, undignified, bickering and name > calling over such a trivial thing as a newspaper? > > I am missing the interesting discussions about get iplayer. > > Thanks > Roger > > -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf > Of Jim web > Sent: 01 March 2017 09:37 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: BBC Licensing Expose > > In article <25b7c43b-4278-2dc3-6dc3-03e646587...@tqvideo.co.uk>, Tony Quinn > wrote: > > > On 28/02/2017 22:30, CJB wrote: > > > I wish I'd never brought the subject up. But what a nasrty hate > > > filled email I first received from that David person. CJB. > > > > > He does come across as a truly vile individuial, it has to be said; > > but it's often the case with the deeply "committed" left-leaning types > > > Your own closed-mind bias is shown by the way you confine it to > 'left-leaning types", etc in your slanted response. And it *still* isn't > relevant here! > > Jim > > -- > Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14041 - Release Date: 03/01/17 > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: BBC Licensing Expose
Hi All, I post very little of value, on here, but please allow me to comment. I have been a member of a group that purports to be 'in the top two percentile' but this is only on one specific measurement scale, which did not, necessarily, prove that I had, or could use, common sense or consider that a variety of opinions could be acceptable. In my younger days, I was often told that I knew a lot of facts, but could only see 'black or white', sometimes with proof, but other times with only limited information on which to base my view. As I have aged, I have stepped back from such extreme decisions and realised that much of what surrounds us is only 'opinion' not fact and falls in to a grey area. We are all entitled to our opinions and have the right to attempt to inform others but we do not have the right to insist that one person's view must be accepted by others. Please show tolerance for the views of others, however different they may be from yours. Can we please, now, stop this unnecessary, undignified, bickering and name calling over such a trivial thing as a newspaper? I am missing the interesting discussions about get iplayer. Thanks Roger -Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Jim web Sent: 01 March 2017 09:37 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: BBC Licensing Expose In article <25b7c43b-4278-2dc3-6dc3-03e646587...@tqvideo.co.uk>, Tony Quinn wrote: > On 28/02/2017 22:30, CJB wrote: > > I wish I'd never brought the subject up. But what a nasrty hate > > filled email I first received from that David person. CJB. > > > He does come across as a truly vile individuial, it has to be said; > but it's often the case with the deeply "committed" left-leaning types Your own closed-mind bias is shown by the way you confine it to 'left-leaning types", etc in your slanted response. And it *still* isn't relevant here! Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4756/14041 - Release Date: 03/01/17 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: BBC Licensing Expose
In article <25b7c43b-4278-2dc3-6dc3-03e646587...@tqvideo.co.uk>, Tony Quinn wrote: > On 28/02/2017 22:30, CJB wrote: > > I wish I'd never brought the subject up. But what a nasrty hate filled > > email I first received from that David person. CJB. > > > He does come across as a truly vile individuial, it has to be said; but > it's often the case with the deeply "committed" left-leaning types Your own closed-mind bias is shown by the way you confine it to 'left-leaning types", etc in your slanted response. And it *still* isn't relevant here! Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
