Re: Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[Paul Thornett]

I haven't expressed myself well.

My PVR is able to play .mkv, .mp4, .ts, .mpg, etc. I infer its
preference for .ts files from the fact that when the current entry in
a list of videos/movies is a .ts file, it is able to display length
and other data.

I was wrong in my earlier post. I have transcoded a couple of
different GIP download attempts using Handbrake, and the problem
remains - I still cannot see any video (and I am really suprised by
this).

Before I discovered GIP's --raw setting a few months ago, my prefs
contained no preferred modes, so presumably the --tvmode=best was
implied. Then, of course, I was getting .mp4 files, all of which
played perfectly. So it seems to me that something in the BBC's
formatting has changed recently; but that change has apparently been
picked up only by my PVR (which seems rather unlikely).
Regards,

Paul Thornett


On 18 April 2018 at 07:12, iz  wrote:
> On 17 April 2018 at 16:24, Paul Thornett  wrote:
>>   --tvmode = best (results in dvfxsd1)
>
> It seems hvf streams are not available to you for some reason. They
> would spare you this headache. Otherwise, just re-mux your .mp4 to .ts
> (mpeg-ts). You can then re-mux back to .mp4 if necessary. Worked for
> me with QuickTime and Apple TV, which have the same limitation.

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Re: Using ffmpeg to halve frame rate

[Nick Payne]

On 16/04/2018 6:59 AM, Nick Payne wrote:
> On 16/04/2018 2:18 AM, RS wrote:
>> A couple of years ago there were problems with HLS and there was
>> speculation that we might have 50 fps HVFhd and DVFhd as the only HD
>> modes.  At that time I wondered if it would be feasible to drop every
>> other frame to reduce the frame rte to 25 fps.  I thought because of
>> the H.264 delta encoding it would probably mean transcoding and that
>> it would be too slow.
>>
>> On a 42" screen for the programmes that I usually watch I cannot see
>> any difference between a HD picture at 50 fps and one at 25 fps, so 50
>> fps for me is just a waste of bandwidth and storage space, so I have
>> been looking at it again.
> I experimented a while ago with running some GiP downloads through
> Handbrake to convert the video to the x265 codec. That reduced the file
> size to about 1/3 of the original download, with no subjective
> difference in video quality that I could see when viewing on our TV. A
> one hour 1280x720 25fps program that downloads as a 1Gb file was reduced
> in size to ~350Mb. On my PC, the re-encode runs at about 50fps for
> 1280x720, so ~2x real time for 25fps and ~real time for 50fps. For
> smaller video dimension such as 960x540, the re-encode speed was around
> 85-90FPS.
I just ran another test on some 1280x720 50fps and 1280x720 25fps
downloads from the last UK snooker championship. As before, the 25fps
downloads were reduced to about 1/3 previous size by Handbrake (eg a
4h58m match that was 5.03Gb came down to 1.55Gb). However, the 50fps
downloads were reduced by far more with exactly the same settings in
Handbrake - for example, a 4h44m match that was a 10.2Gb download from
GiP came down to 1.48Gb, and a 4h14m 8.93Gb file came down to 1.30Gb.
This leads me to wonder if the 50fps downloads are from a 25fps original
and just have each frame duplicated, as after running through Handbrake,
the file sizes just seem proportional to the length of the program, and
whether 50fps or 25fps has no effect on the file size.

Nick


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Re: Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[iz]

On 17 April 2018 at 16:24, Paul Thornett  wrote:
>   --tvmode = best (results in dvfxsd1)

It seems hvf streams are not available to you for some reason. They
would spare you this headache. Otherwise, just re-mux your .mp4 to .ts
(mpeg-ts). You can then re-mux back to .mp4 if necessary. Worked for
me with QuickTime and Apple TV, which have the same limitation.

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Re: Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[Ralph Corderoy]

Hi Paul,

Peter S. Kirk wrote:
> 2. running .mkv through ffmpeg to change to .mp4

Which doesn't transcode, just quickly pulls the streams out of the MKV
and puts them in an MP4.

ffmpeg -i in.mkv -c copy out.mp4

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Re: Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[Peter S Kirk]

Paul,

You say pvr plays .ts

Then: "The sound is fine (I combine the
video, audio and subtitle files using MKVMerge), but there is no video
at all."

Doesn't that result in a .mkv?

Have you tried:
1. rename .mkv to .mp4 - sometimes works
2. running .mkv through ffmpeg to change to .mp4

Cheers


On 18 Apr 2018 at 1:24, Paul Thornett Paul Thornett  
wrote:

> I have a BeyonWiz PVR which is connected to my PC wirelessly and which
> I use to play GIP downloads to my TV. Until hlshd became unavailable
> recently, I used the following GIP options:
>   subsmono = 1
>   tvmode = hlshd
>   raw = 1
> 
> This produced .ts and .srt files, which my PVR was ecstatic about and
> played supremely well (I think the .ts format is native to this PVR).
> 
> Since hlshd became unavailable, I have tried downloading with:
>   --tvmode = best (results in dvfxsd1)
>   --tvmode=dvfsd1
>   --tvmode=dvfhd1 --fps50
> with and without --raw.
> 
> The result is the same, regardless of my command line. I get the
> downloaded files OK. All of them can be played on my PC using VLC.
> But none of them plays using my PVR. The sound is fine (I combine the
> video, audio and subtitle files using MKVMerge), but there is no video
> at all.
> 
> I realize I can do a transcode with Handbrake, and that will probably
> work. But why am I having this problem? Is there anything else I could
> try (I really don't want to  reduce the bitrate any more if I can help
> it)?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul Thornett


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Cannot play downloads from get_iplayer!

[Paul Thornett]

I have a BeyonWiz PVR which is connected to my PC wirelessly and which
I use to play GIP downloads to my TV. Until hlshd became unavailable
recently, I used the following GIP options:
  subsmono = 1
  tvmode = hlshd
  raw = 1

This produced .ts and .srt files, which my PVR was ecstatic about and
played supremely well (I think the .ts format is native to this PVR).

Since hlshd became unavailable, I have tried downloading with:
  --tvmode = best (results in dvfxsd1)
  --tvmode=dvfsd1
  --tvmode=dvfhd1 --fps50
with and without --raw.

The result is the same, regardless of my command line. I get the
downloaded files OK. All of them can be played on my PC using VLC.
But none of them plays using my PVR. The sound is fine (I combine the
video, audio and subtitle files using MKVMerge), but there is no video
at all.

I realize I can do a transcode with Handbrake, and that will probably
work. But why am I having this problem? Is there anything else I could
try (I really don't want to  reduce the bitrate any more if I can help
it)?


Regards,

Paul Thornett

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RE: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Yusuf Osman]

That fixed the issue, thanks Clive.
Yusuf

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Yusuf 
Osman
Sent: 17 April 2018 15:01
To: Clive ; get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RE: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

Thanks Clive, I'm trying that now.
Yusuf

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Clive
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:49
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

Now I recall, my similar problem was overcome by forcing a complete cache 
rebuild. There was a period when such downloads were broken and the history 
contained a few days of nothing at all. For those of us that normally only use 
get_iplayer a couple of times a week, those days were entirely absent until the 
cache was rebuilt.

Clive


On 17/04/18 14:36, Yusuf Osman wrote:
> Thanks Alan and Clive for your responses With apologies to Clive for sending 
> the below to him directly rather than the list.
> Thanks Clive, I should have said I'm using the Windows version and I'd best 
> check for the latest version just encase I'm not running the latest version 
> for Windows.
>
> To add to that I've now done this and am running 3.13.0. Clive finds 70 
> dramas, I'm only able to find 4, but they do download, at least on my 
> desktop. On my laptop, running the same version of get_iplayer I'm still 
> getting 0 programs found. I'm using Windows7 64 bit on both.
> Thanks
> Yusuf
>
> -Original Message-
> From: get_iplayer  On Behalf 
> Of Alan Milewczyk
> Sent: 17 April 2018 14:00
> To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0
>
> Hi Yusuf
>
> I download those programmes every day and I can confirm that in the 
> last
> 24 hours, I was able to download the latest broadcast editions of 
> those programmes.
>
> You should update to the latest version 3.13, which was released on 
> 24th March 2018, as changes at the BBC broke the cache updating. (For 
> windows
> https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer_win32/releases/latest)
>
> Regards
>
> Alan
>
> On 17/04/2018 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:
>> Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record 
>> radio programs using the following strings:
>> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
>> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
>> Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
>> Any ideas?
>> Yusuf
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RE: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Yusuf Osman]

Thanks Clive, I'm trying that now.
Yusuf

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Clive
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:49
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

Now I recall, my similar problem was overcome by forcing a complete cache 
rebuild. There was a period when such downloads were broken and the history 
contained a few days of nothing at all. For those of us that normally only use 
get_iplayer a couple of times a week, those days were entirely absent until the 
cache was rebuilt.

Clive


On 17/04/18 14:36, Yusuf Osman wrote:
> Thanks Alan and Clive for your responses With apologies to Clive for sending 
> the below to him directly rather than the list.
> Thanks Clive, I should have said I'm using the Windows version and I'd best 
> check for the latest version just encase I'm not running the latest version 
> for Windows.
>
> To add to that I've now done this and am running 3.13.0. Clive finds 70 
> dramas, I'm only able to find 4, but they do download, at least on my 
> desktop. On my laptop, running the same version of get_iplayer I'm still 
> getting 0 programs found. I'm using Windows7 64 bit on both.
> Thanks
> Yusuf
>
> -Original Message-
> From: get_iplayer  On Behalf 
> Of Alan Milewczyk
> Sent: 17 April 2018 14:00
> To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
> Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0
>
> Hi Yusuf
>
> I download those programmes every day and I can confirm that in the 
> last
> 24 hours, I was able to download the latest broadcast editions of 
> those programmes.
>
> You should update to the latest version 3.13, which was released on 
> 24th March 2018, as changes at the BBC broke the cache updating. (For 
> windows
> https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer_win32/releases/latest)
>
> Regards
>
> Alan
>
> On 17/04/2018 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:
>> Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record 
>> radio programs using the following strings:
>> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
>> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
>> Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
>> Any ideas?
>> Yusuf
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Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Clive]

Now I recall, my similar problem was overcome by forcing a complete 
cache rebuild. There was a period when such downloads were broken and 
the history contained a few days of nothing at all. For those of us that 
normally only use get_iplayer a couple of times a week, those days were 
entirely absent until the cache was rebuilt.


Clive


On 17/04/18 14:36, Yusuf Osman wrote:

Thanks Alan and Clive for your responses With apologies to Clive for sending 
the below to him directly rather than the list.
Thanks Clive, I should have said I'm using the Windows version and I'd best 
check for the latest version just encase I'm not running the latest version for 
Windows.

To add to that I've now done this and am running 3.13.0. Clive finds 70 dramas, 
I'm only able to find 4, but they do download, at least on my desktop. On my 
laptop, running the same version of get_iplayer I'm still getting 0 programs 
found. I'm using Windows7 64 bit on both.
Thanks
Yusuf

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Alan 
Milewczyk
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:00
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

Hi Yusuf

I download those programmes every day and I can confirm that in the last
24 hours, I was able to download the latest broadcast editions of those
programmes.

You should update to the latest version 3.13, which was released on 24th
March 2018, as changes at the BBC broke the cache updating. (For windows
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer_win32/releases/latest)

Regards

Alan

On 17/04/2018 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:

Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record radio 
programs using the following strings:
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
Any ideas?
Yusuf


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RE: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Yusuf Osman]

Thanks Alan and Clive for your responses With apologies to Clive for sending 
the below to him directly rather than the list.
Thanks Clive, I should have said I'm using the Windows version and I'd best 
check for the latest version just encase I'm not running the latest version for 
Windows.

To add to that I've now done this and am running 3.13.0. Clive finds 70 dramas, 
I'm only able to find 4, but they do download, at least on my desktop. On my 
laptop, running the same version of get_iplayer I'm still getting 0 programs 
found. I'm using Windows7 64 bit on both.
Thanks
Yusuf

-Original Message-
From: get_iplayer  On Behalf Of Alan 
Milewczyk
Sent: 17 April 2018 14:00
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

Hi Yusuf

I download those programmes every day and I can confirm that in the last 
24 hours, I was able to download the latest broadcast editions of those 
programmes.

You should update to the latest version 3.13, which was released on 24th 
March 2018, as changes at the BBC broke the cache updating. (For windows 
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer_win32/releases/latest)

Regards

Alan

On 17/04/2018 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:
> Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record 
> radio programs using the following strings:
> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
> get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
> Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
> Any ideas?
> Yusuf


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Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Alan Milewczyk]

Hi Yusuf

I download those programmes every day and I can confirm that in the last 
24 hours, I was able to download the latest broadcast editions of those 
programmes.


You should update to the latest version 3.13, which was released on 24th 
March 2018, as changes at the BBC broke the cache updating. (For windows 
https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer_win32/releases/latest)


Regards

Alan

On 17/04/2018 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:

Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record radio 
programs using the following strings:
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
Any ideas?
Yusuf



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Re: Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Clive]

On 17/04/18 12:24, Yusuf Osman wrote:

Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record radio 
programs using the following strings:
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
Any ideas?
Yusuf


I'm using v3.13-ppa31d under Linux. A terminal string of:

get_iplayer "book at bedtime"  [my preferences are set to 
--type=radio so I can omit that]


finds 42 programs. I have not tried to d/l any but generally, if it 
finds them in a search they are usually available in one format or 
another. The drama search finds 70.


Clive

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Problem recording radio programs using version 3.12.0

[Yusuf Osman]

Hi, as the subject says, using Get_Iplayer version 3.12.0 I can't record radio 
programs using the following strings:
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "drama"
get_iplayer --type=radio --get "book at bedtime"
Get_Iplayer reports no programs found.
Any ideas?
Yusuf

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