Just noticed the download title includes [legal]

2019-07-17 Thread Budge
Just noticed this after pid when getting Men of Rock...  No idea what it
means or why it is there.  Is it because I have signed up for iPlayer
and my address is known or something more sinister?
Budge

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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes

On 17/07/2019 at 6:11 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:

checking back I find that everything I've downloaded in almost-HD
since 1/1/2019 is at 128kbps audio or less


Which is exactly what I was working from.  The program I spotted with 
320K audio was from Sunday the 14th of July, and I made an assumption.


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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane

Please see below ...

On 17/07/2019 16:26, James Scholes wrote:
Scratch what I said previously, the format of the URLs has changed and 
the 320K streams are still available.  Just posted the info here:


https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-2062.html


And dinky had replied:  "That is not a new URL format. You've just 
happened on a TV programme with 320k audio still available."  I'm not 
going to attempt to arbitrate between you !-)


Let's instead look at the script.  First we have to know what difference 
if any the script version makes.  I'm still using 3.17, and checking 
back I find that everything I've downloaded in almost-HD since 1/1/2019 
is at 128kbps audio or less, whereas others say that the problem started 
for them around the beginning of July, so what versions are others 
using, and does the new v3.21 apparently announced today resolve the 
problem?  If not ...


In v3.17 of the script, I get the impression that the selection of 
streams is done in lines 5474 onwards:


my $best_audio;
# etc.

Line 5511 appears to be the one that matches both the audio stream 
designation that you discussed in the forum:


            my ($ab, $vb) = ($1, $2) if $stream->{'URL'} =~ 
/audio.*?=(\d+)-video.*?=(\d+)/;


Although I've created a major Perl program which works very well, Perl 
Regular Expressions (REs), which are what are doing the matching and 
capturing in this line, are something that I use so infrequently that I 
have to look them up whenever I do.  As far as I can tell the above 
should match the new audio designation with its added suffix of '_eng', 
but I'd feel more confident if other Perl programmers here would verify 
this.  As far as I can tell any problem lies somewhere else in the 
program logic surrounding the above line.



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Subtitles

2019-07-17 Thread Paul Thornett
My gip options are as follows:
   Options from Files
  radiomode = best
  subsmono = 1
  subtitles = 1
  tvmode = dvfsd,dvfxsd

   Options Used
  encodingconsolein = cp850
  encodingconsoleout = cp850
  encodinglocale = cp1252
  encodinglocalefs = cp1252

As of around 2 weeks or so, I no longer get any subtitles.

Today I selected a recently braodcast programme and downloaded it:
   Chasing the Moon: Series 1 - A Place Beyond the Sky (Part Two), BBC
Four, m0006vrv

During the download, two 0-length files appeared in my target folder:
   
Chasing_the_Moon_Series_1_-_02._A_Place_Beyond_the_Sky_Part_Two_m0006vrv_original.audio.m4a
   
Chasing_the_Moon_Series_1_-_02._A_Place_Beyond_the_Sky_Part_Two_m0006vrv_original.audio

After the audio component download:
   the .m4a file was 44.3MB
   the .audio file disappeared
   2 new files of zero length appeared:
  
Chasing_the_Moon_Series_1_-_02._A_Place_Beyond_the_Sky_Part_Two_m0006vrv_original.video.m4v
  
Chasing_the_Moon_Series_1_-_02._A_Place_Beyond_the_Sky_Part_Two_m0006vrv_original.video.txt

After the video component download:
   All files previously named have disappeared
   
Chasing_the_Moon_Series_1_-_02._A_Place_Beyond_the_Sky_Part_Two_m0006vrv_original.mp4
now exists (970MB), comprising video and audio

In my GIP terminal window the following lines appear:
   INFO: Downloading tv: 
   INFO: Downloaded: 46.49MB  [audio]
   INFO: Downloaded: 969.23MB ... [video]
   INFO: Converting to MPEG-TS
   INFO: Converting to MP4
   INFO: Tagging MP4
   INFO: Downloading subtitles [original]
   Terminating on signal SIGINT(2)

It looks to me as if the attempt to download subtitles has failed.

Any ideas please?

Regards,

Paul Thornett

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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes
Scratch what I said previously, the format of the URLs has changed and 
the 320K streams are still available.  Just posted the info here:


https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/thread-2062.html

Regards,

James Scholes

On 17/07/2019 at 4:11 pm, James Scholes wrote:

On 17/07/2019 at 3:18 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:
Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the 
BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy".


Not necessarily.  If anything, I think the availability of 320K TV 
streams in the first place was probably the cock-up, because to my 
knowledge they were never directly used by any iPlayer product.  It may 
have been on the to-do list for some time to stop duplicate 320K streams 
being sent to the CDN, taking up additional disk space for no benefit, 
and someone has only just gotten round to it.


I say this because get_iplayer was only able to access them by changing 
part of a playlist URL, i.e. the BBC mediaselector APIs didn't advertise 
the availability of such streams.


Regards,

James Scholes

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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread James Scholes

On 17/07/2019 at 3:18 pm, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote:
Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the 
BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy".


Not necessarily.  If anything, I think the availability of 320K TV 
streams in the first place was probably the cock-up, because to my 
knowledge they were never directly used by any iPlayer product.  It may 
have been on the to-do list for some time to stop duplicate 320K streams 
being sent to the CDN, taking up additional disk space for no benefit, 
and someone has only just gotten round to it.


I say this because get_iplayer was only able to access them by changing 
part of a playlist URL, i.e. the BBC mediaselector APIs didn't advertise 
the availability of such streams.


Regards,

James Scholes

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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Jim web
On 17 Jul, w...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote:

> I hadn't noticed a change as none of it recently has been music, but I
> will now also check what I've been fetching recently.

Can't pin the date down exactly, but around the start of July the rate
dropped from 320 to 128. I'll try asking, but any reply depends on a 'pass
the parcel' at the BBC, so no idea when I'll get a response or how helpful
it may be!

Jim

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Electronics  https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
Audio Misc  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Jim web
In article , MacFH - C
E
Macfarlane  wrote:

> Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the
> BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy". 
> Perhaps someone in a position to do so so may care to contact the BBC to
> enquire/complain.  An obvious choice for this would be Jim, but I know
> that he's not been in the best of health recently, nevertheless if he or
> anyone else with contacts is reading this and decides to act, we may be
> able to find out.

I'll ask 'someone I know'. They are, however, 'radio' people, not TV. But
they may be able to get a response.

I hadn't noticed a change as none of it recently has been music, but I will
now also check what I've been fetching recently.

If the report is true I'll soon be wondering how I can tack a time-aligned
audio from R3 onto a TV version of a Prom... Wondered about this in the
past, but it's clearly a real faff!

Jim

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Electronics  https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm
Armstrong Audio  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html
biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html
Audio Misc  http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html


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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread MacFH - C E Macfarlane

Please see below ...

On 17/07/2019 10:28, RS wrote:

This forum post may be of interest to some here.

errfmt:
I've noticed that the 320kbps audio streams that used to be default 
for hvfhd/hvfsd/hvfxsd TV seem to have disappeared and have been 
replaced with 128kbps streams.
Looking at my series downloads the change appears to have happened 
around 3rd week in June, for instance Episode 4 of the 'The Planets' 
downloaded on 19th June has 320kbps stream, Episode 5 downloaded on 
1st July has 128kbps stream.
As far as I can tell all current programmes now only have the 128kbps 
stream available (I noticed this because Glastonbury downloads were 
all 128kbps).


I suspect this a BBC change and there will be nothing that can be done 
in get_iplayer to re-enable 320kbps (but I hope I'm wrong!).


dinky:
Nothing get_iplayer can do about it. If someone knows that 320k audio 
TV streams still exist somewhere, start a new thread and explain how 
to find them. Thread closed.


https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2055


Fortunately for me, the 320kbps radio show downloads are still 
available.  I've just checked and all my recent downloads up to last 
night are all the same file size as they always have been.


Unless anyone has anything more definite, such as a statement from the 
BBC, that suggests to me "cock-up" rather than "change of policy".  
Perhaps someone in a position to do so so may care to contact the BBC to 
enquire/complain.  An obvious choice for this would be Jim, but I know 
that he's not been in the best of health recently, nevertheless if he or 
anyone else with contacts is reading this and decides to act, we may be 
able to find out.



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Re: Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread Owen Smith
Usual reduction in audio quality since the BBC believes everyone uses earbuds 
anyway for iPlayer. Meanwhile I want stuff broadcast in 5.1 audio (on HD 
channels) to have 5.1 audio in iPlayer. Fat chance now.

-- 
Owen Smith 
Cambridge, UK

> On 17 Jul 2019, at 10:28, RS  wrote:
> 
> This forum post may be of interest to some here.
> 
> errfmt:
> I've noticed that the 320kbps audio streams that used to be default for 
> hvfhd/hvfsd/hvfxsd TV seem to have disappeared and have been replaced with 
> 128kbps streams.
> Looking at my series downloads the change appears to have happened around 3rd 
> week in June, for instance Episode 4 of the 'The Planets' downloaded on 19th 
> June has 320kbps stream, Episode 5 downloaded on 1st July has 128kbps stream.
> As far as I can tell all current programmes now only have the 128kbps stream 
> available (I noticed this because Glastonbury downloads were all 128kbps).
> 
> I suspect this a BBC change and there will be nothing that can be done in 
> get_iplayer to re-enable 320kbps (but I hope I'm wrong!).
> 
> dinky:
> Nothing get_iplayer can do about it. If someone knows that 320k audio TV 
> streams still exist somewhere, start a new thread and explain how to find 
> them. Thread closed.
> 
> https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2055
> 
> 
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Forum - HVF 320kbps audio streams no longer available

2019-07-17 Thread RS

This forum post may be of interest to some here.

errfmt:
I've noticed that the 320kbps audio streams that used to be default for 
hvfhd/hvfsd/hvfxsd TV seem to have disappeared and have been replaced 
with 128kbps streams.
Looking at my series downloads the change appears to have happened 
around 3rd week in June, for instance Episode 4 of the 'The Planets' 
downloaded on 19th June has 320kbps stream, Episode 5 downloaded on 1st 
July has 128kbps stream.
As far as I can tell all current programmes now only have the 128kbps 
stream available (I noticed this because Glastonbury downloads were all 
128kbps).


I suspect this a BBC change and there will be nothing that can be done 
in get_iplayer to re-enable 320kbps (but I hope I'm wrong!).


dinky:
Nothing get_iplayer can do about it. If someone knows that 320k audio TV 
streams still exist somewhere, start a new thread and explain how to 
find them. Thread closed.


https://forums.squarepenguin.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=2055


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get_iplayer release 3.21

2019-07-17 Thread RS

There seems to be a new release 3.21 of get_iplayer.

https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/release320to329#release321



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