Re: DOS PATH

2015-06-21 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 21 Jun 2015 at 17:28, CJB CJB  wrote:

> When I run the short cut from the Start menu - I get Web PVM Manager.
> That is how GiP was installed. I didn't know that there was a short
> cut for the Command Line version. I have
> been using get_iplayer for years on XP and Win 7 and never noticed it.

Chris,

Solution is simple: create a new shortcut and put it wherever you want.

Target %SystemRoot%\system32\cmd.exe

Start In C:\P\get_iplayer  **

** directory where GiP is installed

> I usually start the
> command line window from Start / Programs / Accessories - then change
> the directory manually using >CD.. etc.

Why? imho easier and quicker to click Start, Run then  cmd 

Peter

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Re: DOS PATH

2015-06-21 Thread Shevek
On 21 June 2015 at 17:28, CJB  wrote:
> When I run the short cut from the Start menu - I get Web PVM Manager.
> That is how GiP was installed. I didn't know that there was a short
> cut for the Command Line version. I have
> been using get_iplayer for years on XP and Win 7 and never noticed it.
> I usually start the
> command line window from Start / Programs / Accessories - then change
> the directory manually using >CD.. etc. Chris B.
>

The shortcut to get_iplayer has been installed for me ever since I
started using it which is many moons and many windows versions ago.

This is what it looks like on my current box, Win 8.1:

http://i.imgur.com/r1GRhT3.png

And this is what it looks like on my Windows Home Server 2011 (2008
R2) box (which is the same as Win 7):

http://i.imgur.com/qLqi1Iw.png

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DOS PATH

2015-06-21 Thread CJB
When I run the short cut from the Start menu - I get Web PVM Manager.
That is how GiP was installed. I didn't know that there was a short
cut for the Command Line version. I have
been using get_iplayer for years on XP and Win 7 and never noticed it.
I usually start the
command line window from Start / Programs / Accessories - then change
the directory manually using >CD.. etc. Chris B.

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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-21 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Sun Jun 21 13:14:19 BST 2015, Doug Faunt wrote: 


the last installations of GiP (Windows 8.1, 2.92)


Hello Doug...
Latest version of GiP is 2.94 !


did not install the proper shortcut, as described below.


Yes, what I described was for Windows versions that 
come with a Start Menu; then the GiP shortcuts are found under: 
"Start -> All Programs -> get_iplayer" folder.


I do not have a Win8+ system to test, but according to the Wiki

https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/winsetup#windows-installer

the installer should've installed in the Windows 8 Start screen 
a "Get_iPlayer" tile. I do not know what the installer does 
in the "Desktop" mode of Win8+... 
Pay special attention to the Win installer NOTE: 

You must run the installer while logged in 
as a user that has administrator privileges. 
If you are the only user on your PC 
you should already have administrator privileges. 
If you are logged in as a normal user and elevate your privileges 
by signing in as an administrator at the UAC prompt 
or by invoking the installer via "Run as Administrator", 
the menu shortcuts and output directory 
will be installed for the administrator account, 
not the logged-in user. 
(snip) 
If you subsequently run get_iplayer while logged in as a different, 
non-administrator user you will not be able to access 
the output directory configured by the installer.


Just a guess, but maybe the GiP shortcuts aren't 
available to you if you are not logged in as admin...
I believe there exist Win8+ users on this list  
who should be able to share their experience with 
you in a more helpful manner... 

Cheers, 
Vangelis.


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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-21 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197
FWIW, the last installations of GiP (Windows 8.1, 2.92) did not install 
the proper shortcut, as described below.  I just copied them from a 
properly configured system.

tnx, doug


On 18-Jun-15 21:35, Vangelis forthnet wrote:

On Thu Jun 18 19:01:14 BST 2015, CJB wrote:


to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$
Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use


Hi...
What's wrong with the way the windows installer of GiP
set up things for you?
When you run the "Get_iPlayer" shortcut, you actually run:

"cmd /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches && get_iplayer.cmd
--help"

in the GiP installation folder (for win32 this is:
"C:\Program Files\get_iplayer") - why have it otherwise?
get_iplayer.cmd is located therein and actually runs:

@echo off
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl %*

perl.exe & get_iplayer.pl also in the same folder...

What exactly do you want to add to the PATH
and how do you plan to invoke the CLI?
I might be wrong, but if you plan
(for brevity) to use "get_iplayer.cmd", then
all three "get_iplayer.cmd", "perl.exe" & "get_iplayer.pl"
should be added...
And do you have an installed version of Perl?
I suspect not, but it would cause conflicts
if you also added GiP's version in the PATH...

Just my 2pence...

Kind regards...

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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-19 Thread Peter S Kirk
On 19 Jun 2015 at 2:13, CJB CJB  wrote:

> OK - thanks though. Huh - I'd forgotten that Pearl and other apps also
> would need to be in the PATH. I was just being lazy. Actually a friend
> of mine in the US is having difficulty working out how DOS commands
> work. He can use the Windows PVM OK, but for progs later than 7 days
> he needs to use the CML version of GiP. I have been trying to tell him
> how to do this - by emails and screenshots - but he seems to have a
> problem even using >CD.. and >CD \folder etc. This stuff is OK for me,
> heck I was brought up with DOS, but he's a Window GUI guy only!! CJB

Write a batch file for him that does all the CDs etc with pid(s) as %1 %2 
etc

Then he opens "DOS" CLI and types batchfilename pid1 pid2

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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-19 Thread Vangelis forthnet
On Fri Jun 19 02:13:01 BST 2015, CJB wrote: 


I'd forgotten that Pearl and other apps also
would need to be in the PATH.


Most probably a mere typo, but it actually is Perl; from wikipedia:
Though Perl is not officially an acronym, 
there are various backronyms in use, 
the most well-known being 
"Practical Extraction and Reporting Language"


If by "other apps" you are referring to the helper apps 
GiP uses (rtmpdump, ffmpeg, AP), then I fear it is not 
needed for them to be also in the PATH; the main script 
knows where to "find" them, so to speak, since their 
relative locations are contained in the options file. 
My system options file 
("C:\ProgramData\get_iplayer\options") contains the 
following line:
ffmpeg .\ffmpeg\bin\ffmpeg.exe 
where ".\" in plain English means: 
"where the get_iplayer script is located"...


He can use the Windows PVM OK, 
but for progs later than 7 days

he needs to use the CML version of GiP.


Since your friend is in the US, I suspect he 
records mainly radio - both radio and TV 
programmes older than 7 days generally do not 
make it into the respective radio/tv caches - in the 
past, "series stacked" episodes broke that rule but 
with the 30d availability time frame in place, 
"series stacked" was discontinued...
I am not using the WPM at all, just launching it 
for list related tests - since your friend is comfortable 
only with the Web PVR Manager, why can't he 
use it for programmes not in the cache (> 7d old) 
via its "Quick URL" feature?


1. Search the BBC iPlayer (Radio) site for 
the programme to be recorded - e.g. 
record the "Official Chart Update 27/05/2015", 
broadcast on BBC Radio 1 on Wed May 27th.
2. Copy the iplayer URL associated with the 
episode, i.e. 


http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05w81g3

3. Launch the Web PVR Manager - if the 
"BBC TV" box is ticked by default, untick it and 
then tick the adjacent "BBC Radio" box (since he is 
after a radio programme...) - this step is equivalent 
to the CLI switch --type=radio.
4. Paste the copied URL in step 2 onto the empty 
"Quick URL" input field and then just hit the 
"Record" button just underneath it - this button's 
tooltip dictates: 
"Immediately Record selected programmes (or Quick URL) in a new tab".
and so is the case: download starts in a new tab, 
file is saved in the GiP recordings folder!

Tadah! No CLI used at all...

@SquarePenguin:
In case you are reading this, the Guide at: 
https://squarepenguin.co.uk/guides/get_iplayer-web-pvr-manager/
could be modified a bit under its "Quick URL" section 
to stress the fact the "BBC Radio" square should be 
ticked if we are using a "BBC iPlayer audio URL"...


Regards, 
Vangelis.


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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread Shevek
On 19 June 2015 at 02:13, CJB  wrote:



> but he seems to have a problem even using >CD.. and >CD \folder etc.



if you are needing to show him CD commands to use get_iplayer then
you're going wrong somewhere

As Vangelis has already pointed out, all you need to do is open the
Get_Iplayer shortcut that the installer put on your start menu

This opens you a cmd prompt in the right directory, with everything
ready to go - straight into a get_iplayer command

HTH

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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread CJB
OK - thanks though. Huh - I'd forgotten that Pearl and other apps also
would need to be in the PATH. I was just being lazy. Actually a friend
of mine in the US is having difficulty working out how DOS commands
work. He can use the Windows PVM OK, but for progs later than 7 days
he needs to use the CML version of GiP. I have been trying to tell him
how to do this - by emails and screenshots - but he seems to have a
problem even using >CD.. and >CD \folder etc. This stuff is OK for me,
heck I was brought up with DOS, but he's a Window GUI guy only!! CJB

On 18/06/2015, Vangelis forthnet  wrote:
> On Thu Jun 18 19:01:14 BST 2015, CJB wrote:
>
>> to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$
>> Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use
>
> Hi...
> What's wrong with the way the windows installer of GiP
> set up things for you?
> When you run the "Get_iPlayer" shortcut, you actually run:
>
> "cmd /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches &&
> get_iplayer.cmd --help"
>
> in the GiP installation folder (for win32 this is:
> "C:\Program Files\get_iplayer") - why have it otherwise?
> get_iplayer.cmd is located therein and actually runs:
>
> @echo off
> perl.exe get_iplayer.pl %*
>
> perl.exe & get_iplayer.pl also in the same folder...
>
> What exactly do you want to add to the PATH
> and how do you plan to invoke the CLI?
> I might be wrong, but if you plan
> (for brevity) to use "get_iplayer.cmd", then
> all three "get_iplayer.cmd", "perl.exe" & "get_iplayer.pl"
> should be added...
> And do you have an installed version of Perl?
> I suspect not, but it would cause conflicts
> if you also added GiP's version in the PATH...
>
> Just my 2pence...
>
> Kind regards...
>
>
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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Thu Jun 18 19:01:14 BST 2015, CJB wrote:


to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$
Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use


Hi...
What's wrong with the way the windows installer of GiP
set up things for you?
When you run the "Get_iPlayer" shortcut, you actually run:

"cmd /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches && 
get_iplayer.cmd --help"


in the GiP installation folder (for win32 this is:
"C:\Program Files\get_iplayer") - why have it otherwise?
get_iplayer.cmd is located therein and actually runs:

@echo off
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl %*

perl.exe & get_iplayer.pl also in the same folder...

What exactly do you want to add to the PATH
and how do you plan to invoke the CLI?
I might be wrong, but if you plan
(for brevity) to use "get_iplayer.cmd", then
all three "get_iplayer.cmd", "perl.exe" & "get_iplayer.pl"
should be added...
And do you have an installed version of Perl?
I suspect not, but it would cause conflicts
if you also added GiP's version in the PATH...

Just my 2pence...

Kind regards... 



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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread Vangelis forthnet

On Thu Jun 18 19:01:14 BST 2015, CJB wrote:


to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$
Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use


Hi...
What's wrong with the way the windows installer
of GiP set up things for you?
When you run the "Get_iPlayer" shortcut, you actually run:

"cmd /k get_iplayer.cmd --search dontshowanymatches && 
get_iplayer.cmd --help"


in the GiP installation folder (for win32 this is:
"C:\Program Files\get_iplayer") - why have it otherwise?
get_iplayer.cmd is located therein and actually runs:

@echo off
perl.exe get_iplayer.pl %*

perl.exe & get_iplayer.pl also in the same folder...

What exactly do you want to add to the PATH
and how do you plan to invoke the CLI?
I might be wrong, but if you plan
(for brevity) to use "get_iplayer.cmd", then
all three "get_iplayer.cmd", "perl.exe" & "get_iplayer.pl"
should be added...
And do you have an installed version of Perl?
I suspect not, but it would cause conflicts
if you also added GiP's version in the PATH...

Just my 2pence...

Kind regards... 



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Re: DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread Shevek
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=windows+add+to+PATH

;)

On 18 June 2015 at 19:01, CJB  wrote:
> What is the MSDOS command to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$
>
> Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use,
>
> Thank you - CJB
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DOS Path

2015-06-18 Thread CJB
What is the MSDOS command to add get_iplayer to a computer's PATH$

Then the CML version would be a tad easier to use,

Thank you - CJB

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