Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On Mon, Aug 08, 2016 at 02:46:24PM +0100, RS wrote: > From: David Cantrell > >At least after the previous Olympics *everything* was available for > >download on iPlayer. > I must be being very stupid then, because I can't find it. If I go to a > day in the Schedule which has already happened I just get a table of > results, not an opportunity to watch the event. Use the iplayer search thingy to look for, eg, "olympic weightlifting" and then click on the bit where it says something like "12 available episodes" on the right, which takes you to ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00cn1xm -- David Cantrell | Enforcer, South London Linguistic Massive "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza." "WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THERE IS A HOLE IN YOUR BUCKET?" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:35 On Sat Aug 6 10:50:01 BST 2016, RS wrote: As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. Not true (at least for current Olympics) - see below... my main interest is equestrian events. ... Then you should keep an eye on: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cmh3v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00cmh3v Download by pid (3 shows currently) or --pid=b00cmh3v --pid-recursive. specify --tvmode=hvfvhigh2 (In my check, hvfvhigh2 CDN was faster than hvfvhigh1 - YMMV) When I replied yesterday I said I thought I had seen the pages you referred to. I was wrong, and not having seen them is the root of my long-held mistaken belief quoted above. When I get programme information from the iPlayer for one of the permanent channels, I usually refer to the Schedule for the channel. The programmes remain in the Schedule before and after broadcast, and links to the catch up get added. The Sport page is very different. There are obvious links to the live programme. Those links disappear when the live programme ends. It is not at all obvious (to me anyway) how to find the catch up, which is why I thought it didn't exist. I don't know how you found the pages you referred me to. I have now found them by putting "olympic equestrian" into the search box on the Sport page. I get a similar result with a different colour scheme by putting "olympic equestrian" into the iPlayer search box. I am very grateful to you for correcting my misunderstanding. Best wishes Richard ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: RS Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 13:39 The reason the pid did not work for the live coverage so I had to use the url was that I entered the pid as p0424zwc instead of p0424zw4. I think I can now shed some more light on this. p0424zwc must have been the code I got from right clicking the BBC player for live coverage. I assumed it was a pid. Today it's p04259fy. When I fed it in to get_iplayer I was told WARNING: PID p04259fy does not refer to an iPlayer programme episode. That was why I had to use the url which today is http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36664493 It seems that for live coverage only the url can be used. For catch up the url or the pid can be used, but the pid will only exist once the episode has been fully processed. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: RS Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 13:00 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org It didn't find the third one, yesterday's cross-country, but it may be that it takes a day or so to be made available. Forget that last comment. It was finger trouble on my part. The reason it didn't download the cross-country was that it was already in my history from downloading live coverage yesterday. The reason the pid did not work for the live coverage so I had to use the url was that I entered the pid as p0424zwc instead of p0424zw4. Also the url is now pointing to the full day's coverage, just as the pid is. The reason I only got a 4min20s clip at 8.45pm last night must be that it had not been fully processed. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On Tue Aug 9 13:00:16 BST 2016, RS wrote: I thought at first I was going to have the same error with your --pid-recursive suggestion. It was trying large numbers of pids and saying No media streams found. "b00cmh3v" is the "brand pid" of all Olympic Equestrian programmes the beeb might've made available in the past; get_iplayer --pid=b00cmh3v --pid-recursive -i will print all the episodes mentioned at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cmh3v/episodes/guide For 2016 Olympics, you could've used the 2016 series pid p040pyx0, i.e. shows mentioned at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p040pyx0/episodes/guide (I was lazy in my first reply and didn't search for 2016 series pid). That page suggests there'll be a total of 12 shows uploaded for catch-up, of which 3 are already available via: get_iplayer --pid=p040pyx0 --pid-recursive --tvmode=hvfvhigh2 (--pid="p041yyt6,p042227v,p0424zw4") It didn't find the third one, yesterday's cross-country, but it may be that it takes a day or so to be made available. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p0424zw4 => http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0424zw4/olympic-equestrian-eventing-crosscountry IS ALREADY AVAILABLE on the iPlayer, hence GiP - it is my belief THAT pid is already in your download history, as a result of your previous downloading experiments! Use get_iplayer --pid=p0424zw4 --tvmode=hvfvhigh2 --force to redownload the whole lot! Best regards, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: Vangelis forthnet Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 11:35 my main interest is equestrian events. ... Then you should keep an eye on: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cmh3v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00cmh3v Download by pid (3 shows currently) or --pid=b00cmh3v --pid-recursive. specify --tvmode=hvfvhigh2 (In my check, hvfvhigh2 CDN was faster than hvfvhigh1 - YMMV) Vangelis you're a genius (as always)! I think I did find those pages, but I must have taken the wrong string as a pid. It told me No media streams found. I thought at first I was going to have the same error with your --pid-recursive suggestion. It was trying large numbers of pids and saying No media streams found. Eventually it found Saturday's Dressage and downloaded it, and then Sunday's Dressage. It didn't find the third one, yesterday's cross-country, but it may be that it takes a day or so to be made available. Your warning about the file sizes is noted. I'll have to break them up before I move them to the FAT32 external drive. Best wishes Richard ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: RS Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 15:52 Thanks Majid and Jim. Putting that in --url "http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36654223"; with --tvmode hvf does indeed seem to work. I went down to hvfsd and then to hvfvhigh which brings the bit rate down to about 2Mbit/s. I managed to record 1h45min with --url "http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36654223"; --tvmode hvfvhigh before my computer went into sleep mode. When it came out of sleep mode it transcoded the .ts to .mp4, and I was able to play it with VLC. About 1h40min after the coverage ended I tried the same command again. I only got 4min20s from 5 hours of coverage, so I am going to have to think again to be able to download any sort of catch up. I then noticed the Sunday Times had a schedule of coverage. For yesterday it showed BBC Red Button 1 to 6 and BBC Olympics 1 to 22. I guess these channels must be on the BBC Sport website, because there are only 8 HD and 8 SD BBC Olympics satellite channels even if you can manage to find them. BBC Red Button 6 and BBC Olympics 15 were showing the same as I had been watching and recording on the BBC RB1 satellite channel, but today everything is different. I then saw that the Sunday Times was saying there had been out of hours coverage on BBC4 from 1pm to 4pm of the eventing cross-country. That seemed a bit surprising since the cross-country did not start until 2pm and went on to 7.05pm. I downloaded it in HLSHD. In 3 hours of coverage I got 7 Segment not found errors. I skipped through it and found it was mostly swimming and hockey. There was just 15min of eventing near the end. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On Sat Aug 6 10:50:01 BST 2016, RS wrote: As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. Not true (at least for current Olympics) - see below... my main interest is equestrian events. ... Then you should keep an eye on: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cmh3v http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b00cmh3v Download by pid (3 shows currently) or --pid=b00cmh3v --pid-recursive. specify --tvmode=hvfvhigh2 (In my check, hvfvhigh2 CDN was faster than hvfvhigh1 - YMMV) These are 5:30+ long programmes, so beware of huge file sizes. Happy viewing! Regards, Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: Jim web Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 15:19 I haven't checked the example, but that looks correct to me. The BBC sometimes make a pid visible via a URL attached to a pic or 'subheading' of text, or have it as part of the name-string for a webpage. Keep an eye on what you browser may display as the url you can get when hovering the mouse over a link. And on the address of the current page. Some links may not be obvious. Thanks Majid and Jim. Putting that in --url "http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36654223"; with --tvmode hvf does indeed seem to work. I went down to hvfsd and then to hvfvhigh which brings the bit rate down to about 2Mbit/s. I did try to find it by putting in get_iplayer --type livetv, but that only lists the 15 permanent channels. The eventing cross-county is on the BBC RB1 satellite channel, so I can record from that, but according to Lyngsat.com there are 8 additional Olympics satellite channels, but I haven't managed to find them. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
In article <4D07CFF5F3BB4F32B73058618E74B4AD@RJCDESK>, RS wrote: > If I right click on the image I get > 1.1621.1764404-SMPFlash 2908kbps | HDS (akamai_hds) | p0424zwc | 960x540 > Setting... Global settings... About Adobe Flash Player 22.0.0.209... > which suggests it is using Flash. p0424zwc looks like a pid, so I could > try that. I haven't checked the example, but that looks correct to me. The BBC sometimes make a pid visible via a URL attached to a pic or 'subheading' of text, or have it as part of the name-string for a webpage. Keep an eye on what you browser may display as the url you can get when hovering the mouse over a link. And on the address of the current page. Some links may not be obvious. I had similar problems in the past when trying to find pids for proms. You need to find the right page, and then twig how they then have linked the pids. My better half was puzzled for some time by the way I sat near the screen of our TV as I 'pid hunted' and wrote down the details. From the sofa she could not see the small display bar at the bottom of the FF window that was showing the URLs when I hovered the mouse in the relevant places on a page. Alas, all magic seems to become 'obvious' once explained. 8-] Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: David Cantrell Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 13:08 At least after the previous Olympics *everything* was available for download on iPlayer. I must be being very stupid then, because I can't find it. If I go to a day in the Schedule which has already happened I just get a table of results, not an opportunity to watch the event. If I watch something live using the BBC Sport player it has an 8 digit number like http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/olympics/36654223 I haven't yet tried feeding that into get_iplayer as a url. If I right click on the image I get 1.1621.1764404-SMPFlash 2908kbps | HDS (akamai_hds) | p0424zwc | 960x540 Setting... Global settings... About Adobe Flash Player 22.0.0.209... which suggests it is using Flash. p0424zwc looks like a pid, so I could try that. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
On 2016-08-06, 10:50, RS wrote: As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer, and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. At least after the previous Olympics *everything* was available for download on iPlayer. -- David Cantrell | Hero of the Information Age "There's a hole in my bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza." "WHAT MAKES YOU SAY THERE IS A HOLE IN YOUR BUCKET?" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
I would have thought that anything that is broadcast will probably be processed into all formats as usual. But Red Button and Web Only content might only be processed into hvf. > The opening ceremony at least is available in "flashhigh", which is my > standard download mode. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
I'm not into Sport, with the exception of Tennis, but my experience of Wimbledon has taught me to look up the relevant BBC programme pages, so it will be worth looking at the following pages regularly: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00cmh07/episodes/player Also I suspect the following will produce helpful information in days to come of what's available for download: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/programmes/formats/performancesandevents BTW I agree about the Red Button situation if only for the amount of action going on, there are limits on what can be edited for broadcast. If they struggle to do it fully for Wimbledon then the Olympics presents a massive challenge to the BBC iPlayer team. Hope that helps A On 06/08/16 10:50, RS wrote: From: tellyaddict Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 00:13 Dinky has pointed out on the forum that Olympics coverage might only be available using hvf streams. He has created a topic about this here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-982.html Thanks for the link. As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer, and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. That experience is limited because my main interest is equestrian events. There are usually only two a year shown, Badminton and Burghley. BBC2 shows 2 hours of highlights on the Sunday afternoon and that is subsequently available on iPlayer. There is also 6 hours of red button coverage of the cross-county on the Saturday afternoon, but the pid for that becomes unavailable when the coverage ends. I am assuming something similar will apply for the Olympics, and the only opportunity to record the red button coverage will be while it is being transmitted. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
From: tellyaddict Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 00:13 Dinky has pointed out on the forum that Olympics coverage might only be available using hvf streams. He has created a topic about this here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-982.html Thanks for the link. As for downloading from the iPlayer, my experience has been that only the main channels are put on iPlayer, and that red button streams are only available while the live event is being shown on a red button channel. That experience is limited because my main interest is equestrian events. There are usually only two a year shown, Badminton and Burghley. BBC2 shows 2 hours of highlights on the Sunday afternoon and that is subsequently available on iPlayer. There is also 6 hours of red button coverage of the cross-county on the Saturday afternoon, but the pid for that becomes unavailable when the coverage ends. I am assuming something similar will apply for the Olympics, and the only opportunity to record the red button coverage will be while it is being transmitted. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Olympics Might be hvf Only
-Original Message- From: tellyaddict Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 12:13 AM To: get_iplayer Subject: Olympics Might be hvf Only Hi All, Dinky has pointed out on the forum that Olympics coverage might only be available using hvf streams. He has created a topic about this here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-982.html The opening ceremony at least is available in "flashhigh", which is my standard download mode. Regards, Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Olympics Might be hvf Only
Hi All, Dinky has pointed out on the forum that Olympics coverage might only be available using hvf streams. He has created a topic about this here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/thread-982.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
