Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On 23 Nov, w...@audiomisc.co.uk wrote: > I'll do some more checks at some point later on. Just did the BT speed test and my connection speed is *way* down low. About 0.6 to 0.8 mbps! So I guess that's preventing decent fetching. Next question is to find out why it keeps happening... But looks like its not a BBC/gip problem. So much for FTTC! :-/ Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
Update on this as I did some checks today. This morning I gipped a few R3/4/4x programs. The fetch rate varied over the range from about x5 to x10 'real time replay'. Since I have a connection that always tells me it is in the range from 14 to over 70 mbps this seems a tad slow. As on an occasion last week. I then tried watching some TV using FireFox and the standard Flash plugin. I could watch SD OK (about 796 kpbs). But HD (2800 kpbs) just gave me lots of the 'whirling arrow'. So I seem to have a > 14 mbps connection that can't actually get 2.8 mbps without being paused about 90 percent of the time. This isn't really better than I used to get before I 'upgraded' to via FTTC. Certainly much slower than a few weeks ago when I did earlier tests. Can't tell at present, of course, if this is simply because I'm in a distant country far, far away from the BBC boardroom and it all has to go via a thin drinking straw at some point. I'll do some more checks at some point later on. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
Owen Smith writes: > Did anyone check if your mysterious line drops and restarts coincided > with the shifts of any particular cleaner? You know, the one that > unplugged the dslam in order to plug the hoover in (don't laugh, crap > like this happens). I had the unfortunate experience of something very similar to this happening. When I worked for HM Customs & Excise, 5 computers in my section always crashed simultaneously at 1645, every day without fail! I eventually tracked it down to one particular cleaner, plugging in one particular vacuum cleaner into one particular socket! The eventual solution was to user another socket on another wall, and everything kept working! Sharon. -- A taste of linux = http://www.sharons.org.uk my git repo = https://bitbucket.org/boudiccas/dots TGmeds = http://www.tgmeds.org.uk Debian testing, fluxbox 1.3.5, emacs 24.4.1.0 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
In article <546ca966.25160.4276...@peter.kirk.isauk.biz>, Peter S Kirk wrote: > On 19 Nov 2014 at 12:57, Jim web Jim web wrote: > > For some years I've had a baffling behaviour where the connection is > > dropped once a day. BT and my ISP monitored this and confirmed the > > connection from them to my router was being lost and then refound a > > few seconds later, prompting a restart of the connection. This > > produced a gap of a min or two in useful connection. > > > > This happens each day for weeks. Then vanishes for weeks. Then resumes > > for weeks. Most curiously the time of day varies slightly from each > > day to the next. It seems to follow being about half an hour before > > sunset and the local street lights coming on! So was mid afternoon in > > winter, but mid evening in summer. > Have your Sodium street lights been replaced with LED ones? No. And the problem occurs long before our street lamps actually come on. > Any light level activated LED lamps in your house? No. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
In article <57d011c2-ea1b-41e2-8e51-2c20f6e5a...@cantab.net>, Owen Smith wrote: > Did anyone check if your mysterious line drops and restarts coincided > with the shifts of any particular cleaner? You know, the one that > unplugged the dslam in order to plug the hoover in (don't laugh, crap > like this happens). Can't say if they checked with their cleaners! But I'd have assumed anything like that would have been phased to the clock rather than to sunset. But for all I know, vampires make cheap and efficient office cleaners. The snag being the problems always showed whilst the Sun was still up. :-) In a totally different context the closest similar experience I had was with a high voltage dc PSU (8kV) that used to switch off at odd times. This was in a 19inch rack cabinet. We finally tracked it down to an optical sensor on the back door of the cabinet. For safety reasons this was to trip off the 8kV if the back was opened. At some points in the day the daylight was somehow squeezing in through the gap in the door and hitting the sensor. Despite the door being almost up against the wall. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 08:20:31PM -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > On 18 Nov 2014 at 18:46, George Eycott George Eycott > wrote: > > 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the > > village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a crawl. > > We are lucky to get 100Kb/s upload speed at any time, often it would > > actually be quicker to use a dial up connection! Apparently our exchange is > > known to be in congestion but nothing is planned to be done about it > Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty of > 3G/4G unlimited packages available, some from the newtworks and some from > MVNOs Pointers to any of those that really are unlimited and not just unlimited* would be most welcome. * unlimited up to N gigabytes per month; no tethering; SIM must be in a 15 year old nokia that does gprs if you're lucky; only available in Worthing. -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information engineer: n. one who, regardless of how much effort he puts in to a job, will never satisfy either the suits or the scientists ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On 19 Nov 2014 at 12:57, Jim web Jim web wrote: > For some years I've had a baffling behaviour where the connection is > dropped once a day. BT and my ISP monitored this and confirmed the > connection from them to my router was being lost and then refound a few > seconds later, prompting a restart of the connection. This produced a gap > of a min or two in useful connection. > > This happens each day for weeks. Then vanishes for weeks. Then resumes for > weeks. Most curiously the time of day varies slightly from each day to the > next. It seems to follow being about half an hour before sunset and the > local street lights coming on! So was mid afternoon in winter, but mid > evening in summer. Have your Sodium street lights been replaced with LED ones? Any light level activated LED lamps in your house? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
Did anyone check if your mysterious line drops and restarts coincided with the shifts of any particular cleaner? You know, the one that unplugged the dslam in order to plug the hoover in (don't laugh, crap like this happens). -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK On 19 Nov 2014, at 12:57, Jim web wrote: > In article <546c7cb5.70...@soulman1949.com>, Alan Milewczyk > wrote: >> On 18/11/2014 19:01, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: >>> Alan Milewczyk wrote: >>> In that case, I'd better not mention the 156Mbps downloads and 11.6Mbps uploads I get from Virgin here in Greater Manchester. >>> My 60 Mbps connection is also a Virgin one; what actual download >>> speeds of BBC radio & tv programmes using get_iplayer do you get? >> Not sure how typical these are but I just timed a film and got 9.6Mbps >> and then downloaded the three hour Today programme from Radio 4 and got >> 15.5Mbps. Subjectively, the speeds seemed fairly normal. > > FWIW until a few weeks ago I was using copper from the exchange and > typically got speeds around 3 mbps. > > Then FTTC arrived and I upgraded to that. Since then the speeds have varied > wildly from time to time. Max over 70, min about 14 mbps. I assume this is > simply a matter of how 'busy' the system is at some bottlenecks. > > For some years I've had a baffling behaviour where the connection is > dropped once a day. BT and my ISP monitored this and confirmed the > connection from them to my router was being lost and then refound a few > seconds later, prompting a restart of the connection. This produced a gap > of a min or two in useful connection. > > This happens each day for weeks. Then vanishes for weeks. Then resumes for > weeks. Most curiously the time of day varies slightly from each day to the > next. It seems to follow being about half an hour before sunset and the > local street lights coming on! So was mid afternoon in winter, but mid > evening in summer. > > Quite a pest when I wanted to listen to a Prom live via iplayer. Hence I > gave up and used 'listen again' instead. > > My old connection also tended to become so congested in the evenings that > I'd get pauses in the iplayer anyway. (This is all for *radio* of course. > HDTV was hopeless.) > > I've not yet checked to see if the problem continues now my connection is > via FTTC. No one at BT or ISP could explain it, although they could see it > happening in their monitoring. > > Be interested to hear if anyone else has had the same sort of weird > behavior that seems to be phased with sunset! Maybe its vampire bats on out > local line. 8-] > > Jim > > -- > Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
In article <546c7cb5.70...@soulman1949.com>, Alan Milewczyk wrote: > On 18/11/2014 19:01, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: > > Alan Milewczyk wrote: > > > >> In that case, I'd better not mention the 156Mbps downloads and > >> 11.6Mbps uploads I get from Virgin here in Greater Manchester. > > My 60 Mbps connection is also a Virgin one; what actual download > > speeds of BBC radio & tv programmes using get_iplayer do you get? > > > Not sure how typical these are but I just timed a film and got 9.6Mbps > and then downloaded the three hour Today programme from Radio 4 and got > 15.5Mbps. Subjectively, the speeds seemed fairly normal. FWIW until a few weeks ago I was using copper from the exchange and typically got speeds around 3 mbps. Then FTTC arrived and I upgraded to that. Since then the speeds have varied wildly from time to time. Max over 70, min about 14 mbps. I assume this is simply a matter of how 'busy' the system is at some bottlenecks. For some years I've had a baffling behaviour where the connection is dropped once a day. BT and my ISP monitored this and confirmed the connection from them to my router was being lost and then refound a few seconds later, prompting a restart of the connection. This produced a gap of a min or two in useful connection. This happens each day for weeks. Then vanishes for weeks. Then resumes for weeks. Most curiously the time of day varies slightly from each day to the next. It seems to follow being about half an hour before sunset and the local street lights coming on! So was mid afternoon in winter, but mid evening in summer. Quite a pest when I wanted to listen to a Prom live via iplayer. Hence I gave up and used 'listen again' instead. My old connection also tended to become so congested in the evenings that I'd get pauses in the iplayer anyway. (This is all for *radio* of course. HDTV was hopeless.) I've not yet checked to see if the problem continues now my connection is via FTTC. No one at BT or ISP could explain it, although they could see it happening in their monitoring. Be interested to hear if anyone else has had the same sort of weird behavior that seems to be phased with sunset! Maybe its vampire bats on out local line. 8-] Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On 18/11/2014 19:01, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: Alan Milewczyk wrote: In that case, I'd better not mention the 156Mbps downloads and 11.6Mbps uploads I get from Virgin here in Greater Manchester. My 60 Mbps connection is also a Virgin one; what actual download speeds of BBC radio & tv programmes using get_iplayer do you get? Not sure how typical these are but I just timed a film and got 9.6Mbps and then downloaded the three hour Today programme from Radio 4 and got 15.5Mbps. Subjectively, the speeds seemed fairly normal. Sometimes if I'm impatient, I open up a few DOS boxes at a time and have a number of transfers going on in parallel - they all seem to chug along without affecting each other speedwise, although I've never bothered timing them. Of course, since the changes introduced by the BBC, the "fetch" element for radio programmes is much greater than before. Alan ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
That reminds me when I was on good old dial-up. You had to wait until the US started to go to sleep to play on some Quake servers. The lag was awful until then. We didn't have very many servers here in the UK then. I ended up getting ISDN because ADSL was never going to happen in BT's words, although it did about 8 years after I moved from my old village. George, I had to double check what list I was reading when I saw your name here! Small world. Dennis Smith M1DLG On 18 November 2014 18:46, George Eycott wrote: >> 5 Mbps, 11 Mbps, 60 Mbps - these are numbers I just don't recognise -:( >> Here in rural Pembrokeshire, West Wales, I consider myself lucky if I get >> the nominal 2Mbps that BT rate the line (upload about 250Kbps!!). >> Fortunately Get_iPlayer trundles along quite happily and next morning I >> usually have the programmes I requested. Long live GIP -:) > > Luxury. > > 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the > village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a crawl. > We are lucky to get 100Kb/s upload speed at any time, often it would > actually be quicker to use a dial up connection! Apparently our exchange is > known to be in congestion but nothing is planned to be done about it. > > "And you tell the young folk that today, they won't believe you" > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> Wander off to google and find the website of your county council/BT/BDUK > setup. You may find that FTTC will be arriving in the not too distant > future. Our exchange serves 1150 odd residential and 99 business's > (according to SamKnows), FTTC is being installed under the BDUK funding > and > I've so far spotted five shiny new VDSL cabinets (two in the town, top and > bottom), one in each outlying village (both have naff all ADSL) and one half > way between the town and the more distant village. Believe me, I am monitoring everything to do with BB in the area (and the local campaigning groups). The local council has just got some BDUK funding, but it is being spent in the estates bordering the town and not us rural lot. I have no doubt it will happen eventually, but I reckon my best bet is 4g from the mast at the end of the road when it is upgraded for the foreseeable future. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:36:52 -, George Eycott wrote: >> Who is your ISP? > > BT :-) They have admitted the exchange is in congestion. >From what I've heard/seen BT Openreach(*) are normally pretty good at bringing on extra capacity when it's required, couple of weeks normally. It can be rather longer if they haven't any dark fibre available. However BT Openreach might not notice the lack of capacity until an ISP complains. IMHO BT Internet is so big and most people just accept that "the internet" slows down in the evening that very few people actually complain so it doesn't register with them. With a more "proactive" ISP it's a different story, the likes of A&A, Zen etc. > And the good news is that a new housing estate is being built in the > village so that is going to help Not. It may kick BT Openreach into upping the backhaul, but I wouldn't like to say that would improve your service. It really depends on what BT have available/install and what the developer installs (ducts, cable/fibre etc) and how big the estate is. Bear in mind that the fibre of a FTTC connection may not terminate at the exchange where the POTS line and thus ADSL does. (*) In broad terms, I think the backhaul/network provision is handled by a different section of Openreach to the holes and poles mob, as is 21CN (the move from an ATM based network to IP based). -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> You may be too pessimistic. If I were in your situation I would be > speaking to the developer now. Good broadband connection speed is a > very significant criterion for house buyers; in the same order as good > local schooling. If the development is significant the developer will > move BT where a private individual would be ignored. Just a thought. Nope, a dozen huge houses (starting price £500k) so presumably not enough connections for BT to be interested. Anyway, in this area our village is considered to have comparably good broadband. The neighbouring village (off the same exchange) is too far away to get anything useful at all ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 18/11/14 21:36, George Eycott wrote: Who is your ISP? BT :-) They have admitted the exchange is in congestion. And the good news is that a new housing estate is being built in the village so that is going to help Not You may be too pessimistic. If I were in your situation I would be speaking to the developer now. Good broadband connection speed is a very significant criterion for house buyers; in the same order as good local schooling. If the development is significant the developer will move BT where a private individual would be ignored. Just a thought. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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Alan Milewczyk wrote: >In that case, I'd better not mention the 156Mbps downloads and 11.6Mbps >uploads I get from Virgin here in Greater Manchester. My 60 Mbps connection is also a Virgin one; what actual download speeds of BBC radio & tv programmes using get_iplayer do you get? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:36:39 + Marshall Cleave wrote: > Three do the all-in-one 15 tariff on pay as you go. £15 gets unlimited > internet for 30 days, I've tried to hit a cap but haven't found one > yet :) A note on that, this is an Add-On (just in case you go looking for the tarrif and cant find it). Three are pretty good in terms of total amount of bandwidth but they will throttle you during peak hours if you use more than X amount of bandwidth in X amount of time (with little to indicate what X will be on any given day). I know they say that they don't but they do, so keep that in mind if you are using large amounts at peak times. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:36:39 + Marshall Cleave wrote: > > >On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:20:31 -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > > > >> Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty > >> of 3G/4G unlimited packages available, ... > > > >Is that using an english definition of the word "unlimited" or a > >marketing speak definition? That is "unlimited" within the limits > >applied via an Acceptable Use Policy. I could use a back up for the > >ADSL, use in the order of 60 to 200 GB /month depending on how many > >kids are home. If you stand near a window on the right side of house > >up stairs you can get a 3G signal, so a truely unlimited 3G account > >could be useful. > > > > > My only connection at home is a 3g connection which I use for > everything including get_iplayer. > I have a cheap firefox phone tethered to a tp-link router (running > openwrt). > Three do the all-in-one 15 tariff on pay as you go. £15 gets unlimited > internet for 30 days, I've tried to hit a cap but haven't found one > yet :) I'm on that, and there is a limit. I have seen a traffic graph get quite clearly limited to about 64k/sec or something (a base 2, computery number), but the limiting seems to be related to how busy the cells are: I have only seen it since moving house, I think. But there is a workaround, power cycle the phone and whilst it is rebooting delete any DHCP lease on the PC. The network will give a different IP, the anti-customer system will then think you are someone else and will turn the bandwidth back up. I make a call before pulling the battery out to power cycle the phone, just to try and confuse the network more. I did all the Horizons the BBC posted, that 50 years worth, in flashvhigh in one go, abut 10gig IIRC. I don't think that triggered any of the unfair usage policy (aka "how dare the customer use what they paid for") though. I think torrents can trigger something, next time it happens though I will call up and complain and make sure it is an ISO of Android or something undoubtedly legal. Proxying is enough to make torrents always go flat-out though (or still dribble in slowly, if it's badly seeded). Nick ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty of > 3G/4G unlimited packages available, some from the newtworks and some > from > MVNOs 2g only at the moment, but I am working on it, I work for one of the mobile networks in the planning team :-) I can get a marginal 4g signal from upstairs with a directional antenna but not good enough for a reliable connection. However there is a base station at the end of the road that is conveniently planned for an upgrade! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> Who is your ISP? BT :-) They have admitted the exchange is in congestion. And the good news is that a new housing estate is being built in the village so that is going to help Not. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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>On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:20:31 -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > >> Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty >> of 3G/4G unlimited packages available, ... > >Is that using an english definition of the word "unlimited" or a >marketing speak definition? That is "unlimited" within the limits >applied via an Acceptable Use Policy. I could use a back up for the >ADSL, use in the order of 60 to 200 GB /month depending on how many >kids are home. If you stand near a window on the right side of house >up stairs you can get a 3G signal, so a truely unlimited 3G account >could be useful. > My only connection at home is a 3g connection which I use for everything including get_iplayer. I have a cheap firefox phone tethered to a tp-link router (running openwrt). Three do the all-in-one 15 tariff on pay as you go. £15 gets unlimited internet for 30 days, I've tried to hit a cap but haven't found one yet :) Just an FYI Cheers --Marshall ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:20:31 -, Peter S Kirk wrote: > Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty of > 3G/4G unlimited packages available, ... Is that using an english definition of the word "unlimited" or a marketing speak definition? That is "unlimited" within the limits applied via an Acceptable Use Policy. I could use a back up for the ADSL, use in the order of 60 to 200 GB /month depending on how many kids are home. If you stand near a window on the right side of house up stairs you can get a 3G signal, so a truely unlimited 3G account could be useful. -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 18 Nov 2014 at 18:46, George Eycott George Eycott wrote: > 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the > village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a crawl. > We are lucky to get 100Kb/s upload speed at any time, often it would > actually be quicker to use a dial up connection! Apparently our exchange is > known to be in congestion but nothing is planned to be done about it Do you have a strong signal from any of the mobile networks? Plenty of 3G/4G unlimited packages available, some from the newtworks and some from MVNOs ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:46:48 -, George Eycott wrote: >> 5 Mbps, 11 Mbps, 60 Mbps - these are numbers I just don't recognise -:( >> Here in rural Pembrokeshire, West Wales, I consider myself lucky if I get >> the nominal 2Mbps that BT rate the line > > Luxury. I'm lucky, get a reliable sync speed of 6 Mbps with through put over 5 Mbps. Down in the village about 2 km further away it's as you describe, if not worse. However a VDSL cabinet has just sprung up down there, so they should be getting 30 or 40 Mbps in the center of the village by year end. Our line doen't go anywhere that cabinet but at 2 km would only get about 15 Mbps anyway. Another cabinet has popped up outside the exchange 3+ km away, that wouldn't perform much if any better than the current ADSL2. But the *really* galling thing is that the fibre cable to feed the cabinet in the village passes under our forecourt about 15' from the front door. > 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the > village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a > crawl. Who is your ISP? I don't get any slow down but others I've spoken to on the same exchnage but use different ISPs do. The congestion may not be at the exchange or on the backhaul but rather closer to the ISP... -- Cheers Dave. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> 5 Mbps, 11 Mbps, 60 Mbps - these are numbers I just don't recognise -:( > Here in rural Pembrokeshire, West Wales, I consider myself lucky if I get > the nominal 2Mbps that BT rate the line (upload about 250Kbps!!). > Fortunately Get_iPlayer trundles along quite happily and next morning I > usually have the programmes I requested. Long live GIP -:) Luxury. 2Mb/s download, yep we get that OK until the schoolbus pulls up in the village in the afternoon then 10 minutes later everything slows to a crawl. We are lucky to get 100Kb/s upload speed at any time, often it would actually be quicker to use a dial up connection! Apparently our exchange is known to be in congestion but nothing is planned to be done about it. "And you tell the young folk that today, they won't believe you" ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
On 18/11/2014 15:29, Simon Morgan wrote: -Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer Sent: 18 November 2014 13:47 To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: Slow radio downloads "Dave Liquorice" wrote: iPlayer is one of the few sites that can fully saturate our meagre 5 Mbps ADSL connection anytime of day or night. No evening slow downs here... OTOH, I've hardly ever seen radio or TV data arrive at more than about 11 Mbps, despite having a connection that can run at 60 Mbps. (I have seen podcasts, not all from BBC servers, arrive at the highest speed, though, so the connection can run at full speed if it has the chance to). -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. 5 Mbps, 11 Mbps, 60 Mbps - these are numbers I just don't recognise -:( Here in rural Pembrokeshire, West Wales, I consider myself lucky if I get the nominal 2Mbps that BT rate the line (upload about 250Kbps!!). Fortunately Get_iPlayer trundles along quite happily and next morning I usually have the programmes I requested. Long live GIP -:) Simon Morgan In that case, I'd better not mention the 156Mbps downloads and 11.6Mbps uploads I get from Virgin here in Greater Manchester. But I'm not going to crow too loudly as when I move to the Philippines I'll be lucky to get 2Mbps, that's when there is a useable service! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: Slow radio downloads - a bit off topic
> -Original Message- > From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On > Behalf Of Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer > Sent: 18 November 2014 13:47 > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: Slow radio downloads > > "Dave Liquorice" wrote: > > >iPlayer is one of the few sites that can fully saturate our meagre 5 > >Mbps ADSL connection anytime of day or night. No evening slow downs > here... > > OTOH, I've hardly ever seen radio or TV data arrive at more than about > 11 > Mbps, despite having a connection that can run at 60 Mbps. (I have > seen > podcasts, not all from BBC servers, arrive at the highest speed, > though, so the connection can run at full speed if it has the chance > to). > > -- > Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. > 5 Mbps, 11 Mbps, 60 Mbps - these are numbers I just don't recognise -:( Here in rural Pembrokeshire, West Wales, I consider myself lucky if I get the nominal 2Mbps that BT rate the line (upload about 250Kbps!!). Fortunately Get_iPlayer trundles along quite happily and next morning I usually have the programmes I requested. Long live GIP -:) Simon Morgan ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
