Re: Why M4a and not mp4?

2012-11-14 Thread dinkypumpkin

On 13/11/2012 23:27, Alastair wrote:

I am advised that a file containing audio data only in AAC format can be named 
either .mp4
or .m4a because it fits correctly into both the .mp4 and .m4a categories. Most 
servers,
control points and music players understand this, but there are a few that 
insist on one of
other of these filetype suffixes. In such cases it should be fine to simply 
rename the file
from .m4a to .mp4 or vice versa.

For a while now music and radio downloads have been put into M4a files and I 
think this
may be upsetting some of my renderers.  I say think because I am still trying 
to sort out the
tagging but meanwhile why M4a which I understand to be an apple format rather 
than mp4
which is the ISO standard?  Is this an artifact from the BBC end or from 
get_iplayer.


Google would be your friend here. M4A and MP4 have the same container 
format.  The M4A extension is just a naming convention for audio-only 
files, a convention to which get_iplayer adheres.  For whatever reasons, 
some players won't recognise the M4A extension, so rename.



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Re: Why M4a and not mp4?

2012-11-14 Thread Chris Marriott



-Original Message- 
From: dinkypumpkin

Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 1:29 PM
To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Why M4a and not mp4?

Google would be your friend here. M4A and MP4 have the same container 
format.  The M4A extension is just a naming convention for audio-only 
files, a convention to which get_iplayer adheres.  For whatever reasons, 
some players won't recognise the M4A extension, so rename.


Personally I always use the aactomp3 flag in get_iplayer to transcode the 
AAC file as MP3 for a radio programme. No problem playing in anything that 
way.


Chris


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Re: Why M4a and not mp4?

2012-11-14 Thread Christopher Woods (CM)


Google would be your friend here. M4A and MP4 have the same container 
format.  The M4A extension is just a naming convention for audio-only 
files, a convention to which get_iplayer adheres.  For whatever 
reasons, some players won't recognise the M4A extension, so rename.


Personally I always use the aactomp3 flag in get_iplayer to 
transcode the AAC file as MP3 for a radio programme. No problem 
playing in anything that way.


Chris


Yikes, enjoy that double-compressed sound? ;-) It's so ... squishy.

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Re: Why M4a and not mp4?

2012-11-14 Thread Chris Marriott

Quoting Christopher Woods (CM) christop...@custommade.org.uk:


Yikes, enjoy that double-compressed sound? ;-) It's so ... squishy.


Sounds fine to me, but all I record are the spoken voice programmes  
(audio books and drama) on Radio 4 and 4 Extra. Perhaps it wouldn't be  
so good for music.


Cheers,

Chris

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Why M4a and not mp4?

2012-11-13 Thread Alastair
I am advised that a file containing audio data only in AAC format can be named 
either .mp4 
or .m4a because it fits correctly into both the .mp4 and .m4a categories. Most 
servers, 
control points and music players understand this, but there are a few that 
insist on one of 
other of these filetype suffixes. In such cases it should be fine to simply 
rename the file 
from .m4a to .mp4 or vice versa.

For a while now music and radio downloads have been put into M4a files and I 
think this 
may be upsetting some of my renderers.  I say think because I am still trying 
to sort out the 
tagging but meanwhile why M4a which I understand to be an apple format rather 
than mp4 
which is the ISO standard?  Is this an artifact from the BBC end or from 
get_iplayer.
Alastair.

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