[Gimp-developer] Build instructions for HOLLYWOOD gimp

2002-03-11 Thread Griffin, Kevin

Has anyone been able to build the Hollywood branch recently?
There seems to be problems with the libtool   ltconfig set up. I followed
the thread from Jan concerning this, and I'm trying to reconcile the
instruction to have ltconfig --diable-shared ltmain.sh, but then have
configure complain about libtool configuration failing. As a result,
ltconfig isn't generated. If anyone has had any success in this matter, I'd
very much like to hear about it. Thanks in advance:)
I'm using libtool 1.4.2, under FreeBSD 4.5.
 
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[Gimp-developer] It would be so neat;)

2002-03-11 Thread Tuukk4 |[:)-| p4s4n3n

hi,
Is there going to be support for OTA (On-The-Air) and WBMP (Wireles bitmap) images in 
gimp?? OTA is nokia standard and WBMP is WAP so they are wery neat options?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] It would be so neat;) - WAP images

2002-03-11 Thread Raphaël Quinet

On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:12:24 +0100, Tuukk4 |[:)-| p4s4n3n [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 hi,
 Is there going to be support for OTA (On-The-Air) and WBMP (Wireles
 bitmap) images in gimp?? OTA is nokia standard and WBMP is WAP so they
 are wery neat options?

You should always use Bugzilla for requesting new features.
There is already a feature request for WBMP files:
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27103

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp HEAD does not compile - intltool

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

RaphaXl Quinet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 01:09:42 +0100, Ed Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I am sorry for not posting it to bugzilla but I do not have account and 
  maybe it's just my fault. Well ...
 
 Yes, it's your fault.  ;-)  All developers and contributors should have
 a Bugzilla account because it is much easier to track the status of the
 bugs using Bugzilla than having to go though the list archives.  Hey,
 creating a Bugzilla account is easy and it's free!  ;-)
 
  When compiling gimp HEAD, 'make' ends with:
 [...]
 
 For this kind of short-lived problems related to HEAD, the mailing list
 is not a bad solution.  If CVS HEAD moves fast, then it is easier to get
 quick answers from IRC #gimp or from this list.  But for everything else,
 please use Bugzilla.

yes, these kind of problems should be reported here on the mailing list.

To the actual problem: I'm surprised that I still haven't got this damned
Makefile right since the tree survives 'make distcheck' w/o any problems.
However I could reproduce the proplem and will try to come up with a fix
really soon. In the meantime, please run tips/update.sh once.


Salut, Sven
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[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.3.4

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

celebrating the GTK+-2.0 release, we have prepared a new release in
the unstable development series of The GIMP. If you are curious,
grab it from the FTP server and give it a try:

  ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.3/v1.3.4/

The mirrors should have already picked up the release, so please 
consider to choose a mirror close to you from this list:
  
  http://www.gimp.org/download.html


This release depends on:

  glib-2.0.0
  pango-1.0.0 (with FT2 support)
  atk-1.0.0
  gtk+-2.0.0
  libart-2.3.8

This release is not intented for daily work, it crashes and it might
not even compile. You have been warned!


Overview of Changes in GIMP 1.3.4
=
- Improved image status bar and image title [Mitch]
- Updated thumbnail code according to changes in proposed standard [Sven]
- Implemented init_proc in plug-ins [Nathan]
- Allow to choose interpolation for individual transformations [Mitch]
- More framework for tool plug-ins, landed a first tool [Nathan]
- Started core/UI separation for the paint tools [Mitch]
- Win32 fixes [Hans Breuer]
- Plug-in code cleanups (aa, colortoalpha, glasstile, guillotine, vinvert,
  pagecurl) [Maurits Rijk, Sven]
- I18n changes, we now use glib-gettextize and intltoolize [Sven]
- New layer mask initialization modes [Mitch]
- Colorpicker, Transform tool and PDB fixes [Mitch]
- Factored out paint code from the paint tools [Mitch]
- New vectors infrastructure [Simon]
- First draft of a new vectors tool [Simon, Mitch]
- Scanline conversion (Path to selection etc.) changed to use libart [Simon]
- Undo cleanups [Mitch]
- Changed tips file format to XML [Sven]
- Added desktop file for GNOME-2 [Sven]
- Added GimpItem class to generalize core code even further [Mitch]
- Improved preferences dialog [Mitch, Sven, Jimmac]
- New tool icons [Jimmac]
- Editor widgets for brushes, gradients and palettes [Mitch]
- Revival of the API reference [Sven]
- Bugfixes
- More stuff not mentioned here (see the ChangeLog)

Other Contributors:
  Manish Singh, Rebecca Walter, Guillermo S. Romero


Since we have made substantial changes to the build process, we are
interested in your feedback on building this release. Please report
problems to gimp-developer mailing list.


Happy GIMPing,

Sven Neumann
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Non-interactive plug-in call (gaussian iir)

2002-03-11 Thread Sven Neumann

Hi,

Cindy Huyser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Oops, the syntax of the second call was actually
  
 return_vals = gimp_run_procedure(plug_in_gauss_iir,nreturn_vals,
 GIMP_PDB_INT32, GIMP_RUN_NONINTERACTIVE,
 GIMP_PDB_IMAGE, imageID,
 GIMP_PDB_DRAWABLE, drawable-id,
 GIMP_PDB_INT32,15, 
 GIMP_PDB_INT32, 1,
 GIMP_PDB_INT32, 1,
 GIMP_PDB_END);

well, the syntax of the PDB call for plug_in_gauss_iir is actually

 { GIMP_PDB_INT32,run_mode, Interactive, non-interactive},
 { GIMP_PDB_IMAGE,image, Input image (unused)   },
 { GIMP_PDB_DRAWABLE, drawable, Input drawable  },
 { GIMP_PDB_FLOAT,radius, Radius of gaussian blur (in pixels  1.0) },
 { GIMP_PDB_INT32,horizontal, Blur in horizontal direction  },
 { GIMP_PDB_INT32,vertical, Blur in vertical direction  }

that's a FLOAT, not an INT for the radius.


Salut, Sven
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Wanted: pixel warrior drones

2002-03-11 Thread John Beppu

[  date  ] 2002/03/09 | Saturday | 11:58 AM
[ author ] Vio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 Because it is a HUGE security hole into the system hosting the Gimp: a skilled
 python programmer can run any python script he/she wants remotely and 
 anonymously, so potentially do a lot of damage on the host. It's a dirty little
 hack. Still, it does execute Gimp commands (python-only) as I wanted, 
 and I guess I like to live dangerously.

Perhaps these modules will help you:

http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-rexec.html
http://www.python.org/doc/current/lib/module-Bastion.html

They're kind of like the Safe module for Perl from what I've
been told.  They can restrict code from performing certain
'insecure' operations.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] It would be so neat;) - WAP images

2002-03-11 Thread Tuukk4 |[:)-| p4s4n3n

yes, i know.. but i have made such a thing in java so i wouldn't be so hard to make on 
gimp (So everyone can do it all so). I just wondered should i use GIMP 1.2 or 
develoment 1.3 (or if i do it on 1.2 would it work 1.3 and 1.4 straight a head?) ? 

Tuukka 
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:37:55  
 Raphaël Quinet wrote:
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:12:24 +0100, Tuukk4 |[:)-| p4s4n3n [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 hi,
 Is there going to be support for OTA (On-The-Air) and WBMP (Wireles
 bitmap) images in gimp?? OTA is nokia standard and WBMP is WAP so they
 are wery neat options?

You should always use Bugzilla for requesting new features.
There is already a feature request for WBMP files:
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27103

-Raphaël
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[Gimp-developer] GIMP for Windows 1.2.3?

2002-03-11 Thread Branko Collin


It would seem that GIMP for Windows 1.2.3 is now official, as any 
suggestion of it being beta has disappeared from Tor's page, having 
been replaced by 'Current release: (GTK+ 2.0.0, GIMP 1.2.3) 2002-03-
10'.

I have not seen any announcement on www.gimp.org or this list, that 
is why I am asking: is GIMP for Windows 1.2.3 official?

Also: does this mean the GIMP for Windows' bugs that were still open 
are now resolved? I filed the snoise bug report, but have not seen 
that bug report closed in Bugzilla.

If so, I would like to send out a press-release about this to digital 
photography magazines. Digital Photography has really taken off since 
last year, and I think we could harvest some users in that field. The 
dedicated magazines seem to assume that all their users will 
gleefully steal their Photoshop copies, but I think there may be some 
users who want to be legit and still use more sophisticated tools 
than those that come with their cameras.

My philosophy is that more users will beget more developers. (I may 
be entirely wrong.)

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[Gimp-developer] xtns?

2002-03-11 Thread Branko Collin


I think I may have asked this before, but if so, I cannot find the 
relevant message.

The GNOME TP coordinator asked me why I translated the menu item 
'Xtns' as 'Xtns'. He was wondering if 'Extra' would not have been 
better. That is when I started wondering why that menu does not have 
a more accessible name in English. Extra(s) would work just as well 
in English too.

So, if you have not answered this before, why is Xtns called Xtns? 
And why not a better alternative?


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Re: [Gimp-developer] xtns?

2002-03-11 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:07:47AM +0100, Branko Collin wrote:
So, if you have not answered this before, why is Xtns called Xtns? 

Shorthand of extensions?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] xtns?

2002-03-11 Thread Branko Collin

On 12 Mar 2002, at 1:08, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:07:47AM +0100, Branko Collin wrote:
 So, if you have not answered this before, why is Xtns called Xtns? 
 
 Shorthand of extensions?

That was my guess too.

However, that does not explain why it was chosen in the first place.

I feel that using abbreviations in menus (especially top-level menus) 
is not a sign of good interface design. I realize that once the 
decision was made to embed menus into the toolbox, the next problem 
was how to keep the menu names short enough to fit the most commonly 
used toolbox window width.

Unfortunately, I am not familiar enough how the X windowing system 
deals with the lack of wide top level menu bars that using MDI or a 
Mac like menu bar at the top of the screen provide.

The larger X apps I know either open a document window right away 
(GhostView, some text editors) or open some initial window (xv). I am 
not sure both 'solutions' are desirable for the GIMP either. 

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Re: [Gimp-developer] mirroring ft.gimp.org problem

2002-03-11 Thread Tomas Ogren

On 12 March, 2002 - Oleg Bartunov sent me these 0,8K bytes:

 Hi,
 
 I've been mirroring ftp.gimp.org for years using
 mirror.pl and had no problem. But now I noticed
 that something was changed and I've got 278Kb
 mail with NEED to remove all my local files
 under gimp mirror directory. Seems mirror.pl
 doesn't understand a ftp listing format.
 How do you suggest to mirror ftp.gimp.org ?

rsync --delete -vaz --exclude manual --exclude users/ ftp.gimp.org::ftp/
 /export/ftp/mirror/gimp.org/

Works fine for me.

/Tomas
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Re: [Gimp-developer] mirroring ft.gimp.org problem

2002-03-11 Thread Oleg Bartunov

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Tomas Ogren wrote:

 On 12 March, 2002 - Oleg Bartunov sent me these 0,8K bytes:

  Hi,
 
  I've been mirroring ftp.gimp.org for years using
  mirror.pl and had no problem. But now I noticed
  that something was changed and I've got 278Kb
  mail with NEED to remove all my local files
  under gimp mirror directory. Seems mirror.pl
  doesn't understand a ftp listing format.
  How do you suggest to mirror ftp.gimp.org ?

 rsync --delete -vaz --exclude manual --exclude users/ ftp.gimp.org::ftp/
  /export/ftp/mirror/gimp.org/

 Works fine for me.

Thanks, do I need to get an access to rsync server ?
I just tried and get
@ERROR: access denied to ftp from www.ramtech.ru (213.59.0.72)
rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (75 bytes read so far)
rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(139)


 /Tomas


Regards,
Oleg
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Re: [Gimp-developer] mirroring ft.gimp.org problem

2002-03-11 Thread Manish Singh

On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 03:36:17AM +0300, Oleg Bartunov wrote:
 On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Tomas Ogren wrote:
  rsync --delete -vaz --exclude manual --exclude users/ ftp.gimp.org::ftp/
   /export/ftp/mirror/gimp.org/
 
  Works fine for me.
 
 Thanks, do I need to get an access to rsync server ?
 I just tried and get
 @ERROR: access denied to ftp from www.ramtech.ru (213.59.0.72)
 rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (75 bytes read so far)
 rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(139)

I've added you to the access list. For future reference, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
is the appropriate contact point for such issues.

-Yosh
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[Gimp-developer] scripting GFig

2002-03-11 Thread vio

Hi,
Could someone post some links or examples on scripting GFig, please. I mean,
I know how to call the plug-in from a script: 
python pdb.plug_in_gfig(image, drawable,dummy)

but then how do I pass commands to gfig, say, to draw a shape which is not 
included in its catalog? Or even one which is part of the gfig catalog?
My first guess would be to create a shape description file in ~/gimp/gfig. 
But then how is gfig instructed to load and process that shape?

Thanks, 
Vio
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[Gimp-developer] GIMP for Windows 1.2.3?

2002-03-11 Thread Tor Lillqvist

Branko Collin writes:
  I have not seen any announcement on www.gimp.org or this list, that 
  is why I am asking: is GIMP for Windows 1.2.3 official?

Umm, define official? Is GIMP for (pick your random Unix system)
official? Which of the prebuilt GIMPs for Solaris (I assume there are
several) is official? IMHO, the official GIMP release is the source
release. 

I am just a person who makes prebuilt binaries available for Windows,
and somebody else then makes an installer out of them. (I also happen
to be the guy who did most of the porting to Windows, but that's
irrelevant IMHO.) There are dozens of GIMP packagings for typical
Linux distributions, for instance, and none of them is official
other than from *that distribution's* point of view. Thus, *my*
prebuilt GIMP builds are official for *me*. As if that meant anything?

  Also: does this mean the GIMP for Windows' bugs that were still open 
  are now resolved? I filed the snoise bug report, but have not seen 
  that bug report closed in Bugzilla.

Sorry, I know I am a bit lazy in checking bugzilla. The problem you
were seeing was caused by that described in Bug#67386, and yes, that
has been fixed. (That fix, however, is not in CVS, as it is somewhat
ugly, or at least the comments I got about that bug report indicated
it might be frowned upon, and I didn't want to take the chance of
delaying the official GIMP 1.2.3 (source) release any further back
then when I did it. See the link to the diffs from
www.gimp.org/win32/downloads.html.)

  If so, I would like to send out a press-release about this to digital 
  photography magazines.

Please do, but tell them it's their job to determine how useful the
software is to users... They can't just expect some
marketing-department-created press release praising the software and
listing its features, from which to copy-paste ;-)

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