Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On Sun, Jun 26, 2005 at 09:21:39PM -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: On left-clicking on the layer-tree, where the current linked icon for each layer is placed, a drop-down menu would be displayed. This menu would contain 4 itens which could each be checked or unchecked: Transparency Lock Color Lock Geometry Lock Linked Linked is not like the locking options, so it should be kept separated. A dropdown menu is expected to disappear on clicking an entry, so changing several options would make for a click orgy. Color and Geometry lock are no way as important as linking. The fact your targets only appear after an initial action slows you down. Icons/Checkboxes above the list might be faster to handle, because you see them right away. If either of these get checked, an apropriate icon (which could be always the same) would displayed in that place. It's usualy difficult enough to convey a single action or state with an icon, but trying to combine 4 aspects with all possible combinations? The only possibility I see are 4 mini icons in the space of one, most likely making for a nice pixel salad. I'm all for icons above the list. --- Thorsten Wilms ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On 6/26/05, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 26 June 2005 17:48, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If we want to have all the lock types that PS offers, we would have to add three new toggles to the layer row. Is that feasible? kkk... I thought of three different states for the lock Icon (and a nice tooltip, of course). Three lock types make up for 2^3 states. Not sure if all of them are useful but it could become difficult to display all useful states in a single icon. Oh well, as Homer Simpson would say: DOH! :-) It's a little less scary if you refer to 2^3 by its other name, 8. :) Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On 6/26/05, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample mockup is available at http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png This would work. All you would need to do is increase the text 2pt or so, and make the icons visually look a little less like text. Rockwalrus ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
Nathan Summers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On 6/26/05, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample mockup is available at http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png This would work. All you would need to do is increase the text 2pt or so, and make the icons visually look a little less like text. Well, this is the small theme, a mockup with the regular theme would probably also be needed to judge on that one. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On Monday, June 27, 2005, 16:32:13, Nathan Summers wrote: This would work. All you would need to do is increase the text 2pt or so, and make the icons visually look a little less like text. The text looks like it's the same size as the rest of the text, so I don't think it's necessary to increase it any more (I always found GTK+'s default text size a bit too big, at least on Windows). -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ Whenever you cut your fingernails, you will find a need for them an hour later. -- Witten's Law ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: Layer locking proposal
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-06-27 at 1117.03 +0200): The fact your targets only appear after an initial action slows you down. Icons/Checkboxes above the list might be faster to handle, because you see them right away. See below. If either of these get checked, an apropriate icon (which could be always the same) would displayed in that place. It's usualy difficult enough to convey a single action or state with an icon, but trying to combine 4 aspects with all possible combinations? The only possibility I see are 4 mini icons in the space of one, most likely making for a nice pixel salad. I'm all for icons above the list. That is only fast for single layer, as soon as it has to be performed in multiple layers, it is slow also (select layer, move cursor, click icons, move to select next layer...). Current method is not the fastest, but this would surely make it slower. I think Simon mockup is fine, if the icons take the non used space, so they scale up based in the previews (bigger previews, bigger icons too, or at least bigger action area, the ones in preview are like checkboxes). It could also solve the issue of layer masks, by putting a link (apply mask) and eye (show mask instead) icons, one above the other, between the previews. GSR ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The text looks like it's the same size as the rest of the text, so I don't think it's necessary to increase it any more (I always found GTK+'s default text size a bit too big, at least on Windows). gtk-wimp (or is it called ms-theme-engine now?) should take care of this, shouldn't it? Michael -- Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie! Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
On Monday, June 27, 2005, 17:27:43, Michael Schumacher wrote: gtk-wimp (or is it called ms-theme-engine now?) should take care of this, shouldn't it? It does. -- Jernej Simoncic http://deepthought.ena.si/ The sooner and in more detail you announce bad news, the better. -- White's Chappaquiddick Theorem ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Blending Modes: Mathematical Perspective
Hi, I apologize if you already received this post via gimpwin-users. I had a question about how Dodge and Burn blending modes work (They are mentioned in Grokking The Gimp, but not fully described)? I am working on an image analysis problem using ImageJ (NIH), but some of the GIMP functions seem to be useful in processing my images. I need to figure out how the process works so that I can (a) identify the corresponding ImageJ function or (b) implement it myself in ImageJ. In general, are there a handful of recommended sources (print or on-line) that detail the typical image manipulation algorithms? Thanks in advance. Martin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Blending Modes: Mathematical Perspective
Martin du Saire ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In general, are there a handful of recommended sources (print or on-line) that detail the typical image manipulation algorithms? Have a look at http://www.pegtop.net/delphi/blendmodes/ , this explains the mathematical background of several blending modes. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://simon.budig.de/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Layer locking proposal
Hi, Simon Budig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A way to overcome this is to have e.g. two lines per layer. A sample mockup is available at http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/files/layer-dialog-many-properties.png This might work from a user's point of view but I am afraid that it will be a nightmare to implement. There's absolutely no support from GTK+ for this kind of UI. Probably even for good reasons. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
