Re: [Gimp-developer] Send by E-mail Feature

2009-07-28 Thread Christopher Howard
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Tobias Jakobs wrote:
> Hi Christopher,
> 
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 20:14, Christopher Howard wrote:
>> Hi. My name is Christopher and I'm one of your new bugzilla reporters
>> and aspiring developers. One of the small bugs I have been working on is
>>  #589674. (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589674)
> 
> I'm not a Gimp developer but I hope I can help. I think the E-Mail
> Feature needs an overall rewrite. The plugin should use xdg-email [1]
> and not sendmail, see the quote from Svens mail at the end from this
> mail[2]. Then the UI don't need any of the fields, that are at the
> moment in the dialog. This informations can be better entered in the
> E-Mail program. What is needed are options to scale and rotate the
> image and perhaps to change the file format. Then it would be
> important to see the file size, because a lot of mail provider have a
> limit.
> So my suggestion is to first port the plugin to xdg-email with an very
> basic UI and then start to improve it.
> 
> Regards,
> Tobias
> 
> [1] http://portland.freedesktop.org/xdg-utils-1.0/xdg-email.html
> 
> [2]
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 00:22, Sven Neumann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 14:06 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
>>
 This feature requires that you have sendmail (or a compatible mail
 system) installed and configured on your system. As that is rather
 uncommon nowadays, the plug-in should probably be disabled on most
 distributions. It's pretty useless anyway (which is why it's called the
 GIMP Useless Mail Plug-In).

>>> On the lighter side, did anyone consider that if it was instead named
>>> the GIMP Realy Useless Mail Plug-In it would be GRUMPI?
>> Well, instead of doing that, someone could port the plug-in to use
>> 'xdg-email'. That would make it somewhat useful again.

Just curious, as i don't have access to a Windows box: does a Windows
GIMP build not have the Send-by-Mail function? Or does it use a native
Windows program/function?

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Send by E-mail Feature

2009-07-28 Thread Tobias Jakobs
Hi Christopher,

On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 20:14, Christopher Howard wrote:
>
> Hi. My name is Christopher and I'm one of your new bugzilla reporters
> and aspiring developers. One of the small bugs I have been working on is
>  #589674. (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589674)

I'm not a Gimp developer but I hope I can help. I think the E-Mail
Feature needs an overall rewrite. The plugin should use xdg-email [1]
and not sendmail, see the quote from Svens mail at the end from this
mail[2]. Then the UI don't need any of the fields, that are at the
moment in the dialog. This informations can be better entered in the
E-Mail program. What is needed are options to scale and rotate the
image and perhaps to change the file format. Then it would be
important to see the file size, because a lot of mail provider have a
limit.
So my suggestion is to first port the plugin to xdg-email with an very
basic UI and then start to improve it.

Regards,
Tobias

[1] http://portland.freedesktop.org/xdg-utils-1.0/xdg-email.html

[2]
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 00:22, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 14:06 -0700, Patrick Horgan wrote:
>
>> > This feature requires that you have sendmail (or a compatible mail
>> > system) installed and configured on your system. As that is rather
>> > uncommon nowadays, the plug-in should probably be disabled on most
>> > distributions. It's pretty useless anyway (which is why it's called the
>> > GIMP Useless Mail Plug-In).
>> >
>> On the lighter side, did anyone consider that if it was instead named
>> the GIMP Realy Useless Mail Plug-In it would be GRUMPI?
>
> Well, instead of doing that, someone could port the plug-in to use
> 'xdg-email'. That would make it somewhat useful again.
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[Gimp-developer] Send by E-mail Feature

2009-07-28 Thread Christopher Howard
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Hi. My name is Christopher and I'm one of your new bugzilla reporters
and aspiring developers. One of the small bugs I have been working on is
 #589674. (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589674)

The is more coding that needs to be done, and I am willing to work on a
patch, but I thought it would be a good idea to get some more input for
you developers about what kind of solution you would prefer.

I don't want to repeat everything we wrote in the comments, but the
issue is regarding the Send by E-mail feature and how the default form
field values are handled.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Uncomitted patches

2009-07-28 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 1:04 PM, LightningIsMyName wrote:

> A palettte export script to close a four year old feature request
> (Souce is attached) - http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304399

I'd love to point you to a very underadvertized application called
SwatchBooker written in Python(Qt) ;-)

https://gna.org/projects/swatchbooker

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Register script in Vectors Menu?

2009-07-28 Thread Rob Antonishen
Hmm. I assumed because the error was in a register call that it
referref to the image type param.

In either case, it worked. Thanks!

-Rob A>

On 7/28/09, saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com
 wrote:
> Quoting Rob Antonishen :
>
>> Brilliant - Thanks.  I was confused by the message, not realizing that
>> the initial INT32 in the error message was the image type (set to ""
>> in my case).
>
> Actually, the first argument is the RUN-MODE, which is implicit when
> calling a Script-fu from another Script-fu (but must be supplied when
> calling a plug-in). This convention is somewhat unfortunate because it
> requires Script-fu authors to know what language a PDB function is
> written in (or maybe I'm missing something).
>
>
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Register script in Vectors Menu?

2009-07-28 Thread saulgoode
Quoting Rob Antonishen :

> Brilliant - Thanks.  I was confused by the message, not realizing that
> the initial INT32 in the error message was the image type (set to ""
> in my case).

Actually, the first argument is the RUN-MODE, which is implicit when  
calling a Script-fu from another Script-fu (but must be supplied when  
calling a plug-in). This convention is somewhat unfortunate because it  
requires Script-fu authors to know what language a PDB function is  
written in (or maybe I'm missing something).



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Register script in Vectors Menu?

2009-07-28 Thread Rob Antonishen
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:15 AM,  wrote:
> Quoting Rob Antonishen
>
>> I have written a script to fractalize a path (vector) and wanted to
>> register it in the paths menu.
>> Here is my register statements:
>> :
>> :
>>                     SF-IMAGE      "image"              0
>>                     SF-DRAWABLE   "drawable"           0
>> :
>> :
>> And the error I get is:
>> attempted to install  procedure "fractalize-path" which does
>> not take the standard  Plug-In arguments: (INT32, IMAGE,
>> VECTORS).
>
> After SF-IMAGE, the next argument must be of type SF-VECTORS (not
> SF-DRAWABLE).
>


Brilliant - Thanks.  I was confused by the message, not realizing that
the initial INT32 in the error message was the image type (set to ""
in my case).

Thanks-

-Rob A>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-28 Thread David Gowers
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jason van Gumster <
ja...@handturkeystudios.com> wrote:

>
> Sparr  wrote:
>
> > Circle and Fuzzy Circle should be two brushes.
>
> I've been following this conversation with a bit of interest, but I've
> noticed that a lot of discussion has echoed this sentiment. Why should
> there be two circle brushes? Couldn't there be a single circular brush
> with "fuzziness" as an attribute of that brush that you could adjust
> with a percentage slider?

..
You can already do that for any circle brush. The attribute is called
'Hardness'
We would not seriously consider such a level of reduction because it's bad
for usability -- it's much more painful for the user to adjust a slider each
time they want to paint with different hardness, than to just switch between
two brushes.

I personally think there should be a few different brushes in a basic set.

* 'fill' brush (large, hard edge) -- because often painting is more
convenient than select+fill
* 'sharp' brush (moderate size -- say 25px (== radius 12), hardness 1.0)
(general purpose)
* 'fuzzy' brush (for blending)

If we moved towards Akira's idea of moving brush-related tool options into
brushes themselves, I would also suggest
* a single pixel, Hard Edge (as in, pencil-style sharp rendering) brush for
pixel.precise adjustments.
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[Gimp-developer] XMPModel and custom signals

2009-07-28 Thread Roman Joost
Hi,

I wasn't sure if I should bring up this discussion on the mailing list
or better on the bug report
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=589474).

I think it could be useful to subscribe to events emited by the XMPModel
(although other people know something I don't know). The old XMPModel
used a treestore to store property and schema data. My current work
version inherits from GtkTreeStore.

There are two things which happen to the treemodel: a property or a
schema could be set. If I'm subscribing to the row-changed event only, I
have to figure out in my callback what has changed: a property or a
schema. By using two different signals, it would be more explicit what
was changed.

I'm working on another patch, which uses custom entry fields which
"monitor" one property in the XMPModel. Currently they're subscribed to
the 'row-changed' event in the XMPModel, which makes it hard to figure
out if the change belongs to the Entry or not. If I could subscribe to a
'property-changed' event, I still have to figure out which property has
changed, but don't have to figure out *if a property* has been changed.
That would make life easier.

Now - as I said - maybe I missed something, but I'm keen to learn :)

Cheers,
-- 
Roman Joost
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email: romanof...@gimp.org


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Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-28 Thread Jason van Gumster

Sparr  wrote:

> Circle and Fuzzy Circle should be two brushes.

I've been following this conversation with a bit of interest, but I've
noticed that a lot of discussion has echoed this sentiment. Why should
there be two circle brushes? Couldn't there be a single circular brush
with "fuzziness" as an attribute of that brush that you could adjust
with a percentage slider?

  -Jason
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Re: [Gimp-developer] What would be a better set of default resources?

2009-07-28 Thread Martin Nordholts
On 07/28/2009 03:04 AM, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
> Getting back to the start of this discussion --
>
> I am in talks with the new mantainer of a very popular brazillian GIMP
> comunity portal this week (Guilherme coordinating www.ogimp.com.br  with
> ~20.000 unique visitors a day)-- he has resources of his own which could be
> made available eitehr in GIMP or in gimp-data-extras . Moreovr a "call for
> help" on these online comunities could result in a large number of
> contributions from Brazillian artists (most with poor English comunication
> skills)

Hi Joao,

To be honest, I don't like the idea of involving like tens of thousands 
of Brazillians with poor English communication skills in a way that 
requires asking for permission on this list. It is of course great if we 
can get help to create or collect the resources we have decided to add, 
but I don't see why you would need to ask us for permission to manage 
something like that on a site not administrated by us.

> So it ocurred to me: maybe we could make a "call for contributions" for new
> resources, and some open voting mechanism. The top rated artwork would make it
> into GIMP as patterns and brushes, and some  more could be made available in
> gimp-data-extras .

As long as you take care of managing the whole thing and don't use this 
list for it (except perhaps linking to existing discussions), this is 
fine with me.

  / Martin
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