Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hi, On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:55 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:55 PM, David Gowers wrote: > > > However, when I ran an update, this message was not removed or > > replaced by a correct one.. or even left alone while the correct > > message was added. > > This is probably because there is bug in your version of intltools or > that version is too old. More likely the problem is that your copy of po/Makefile.in.in is not uptodate. You can check that using the command 'svn status'. This file used to be overwritten by glib-gettextize (which is run by autogen.sh). And the version you have then does not have the proper flags for the xgettext which that are needed to make msgctxt work. I have now tried to fix this problem in trunk. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hello, On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 2:38 AM, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:55 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > >> This is probably because there is bug in your version of intltools or >> that version is too old. >> >> For instance, the version from Ubuntu 8.04.1 doesn't deal with msgctxt >> reliably. It's very selective about which messages to put into a PO >> file and which not. > > For Hardy, you can download a newer version from > http://svenfoo.org/hardy-backports/ Thank you Sven, I installed that. David ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hi, On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:55 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > This is probably because there is bug in your version of intltools or > that version is too old. > > For instance, the version from Ubuntu 8.04.1 doesn't deal with msgctxt > reliably. It's very selective about which messages to put into a PO > file and which not. For Hardy, you can download a newer version from http://svenfoo.org/hardy-backports/ Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 5:55 PM, David Gowers wrote: > However, when I ran an update, this message was not removed or > replaced by a correct one.. or even left alone while the correct > message was added. This is probably because there is bug in your version of intltools or that version is too old. For instance, the version from Ubuntu 8.04.1 doesn't deal with msgctxt reliably. It's very selective about which messages to put into a PO file and which not. Alexandre ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hi, On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:25 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > >> One or two messages (the english part) refer to 'Colorsize' where they >> should refer to 'Colorize' >> (as in 'save colorize settings' and 'export colorize settings'). >> >> I assume this was caused by typos in the source code, later corrected. > > That is correct. > >> However, when I ran an update, this message was not removed or >> replaced by a correct one.. or even left alone while the correct >> message was added. > > How exactly do you update the po files? ../intltool-update eo However, when I run an update on any of the other .po's, it works fine (no 'Colorsize' message any more, 'Colorize'). Strange. ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hi, On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 23:25 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > One or two messages (the english part) refer to 'Colorsize' where they > should refer to 'Colorize' > (as in 'save colorize settings' and 'export colorize settings'). > > I assume this was caused by typos in the source code, later corrected. That is correct. > However, when I ran an update, this message was not removed or > replaced by a correct one.. or even left alone while the correct > message was added. How exactly do you update the po files? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Po-files in SVN have a strange problem
Hello, As I was working on Esperanto translation for gimp, I noticed that it (eo.po).. and the following .po files (in /po/ directory), have a strange problem with a message. pl fr ru ja lt oc One or two messages (the english part) refer to 'Colorsize' where they should refer to 'Colorize' (as in 'save colorize settings' and 'export colorize settings'). I assume this was caused by typos in the source code, later corrected. However, when I ran an update, this message was not removed or replaced by a correct one.. or even left alone while the correct message was added. So, perhaps these files need to be manually changed to correct the message. That's what I did for eo.po (in my local copy) David ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] po-files in SVN need updating
Hi, On Tue, 2008-07-15 at 16:27 +0930, David Gowers wrote: > It looks to me like nobody remembered to update the .po files after > the menu reorganization. (or is the reorganization still ongoing?) > Is this an oversight or is it not the right time to do that yet? It is not our job to update the po files. The translators do that (using intltool) before they start to work on the translations. Or they download uptodate po files from l10n.gnome.org. The files in SVN only change when a translators commits an update. And what you claim is not true. The German translation at least has the words that you mentioned translated. You probably missed that because you grepped for the words without mnemonics. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] po-files in SVN need updating
I am currently learning esperanto, and I set GIMP language to
esperanto. Then, I noticed that there were several things
untranslated, which the po file did not even record the original
string for! (ie there is not even a 'msgid' showing the untranslated
message!)
For example
* File->New ( the submenu New, not 'New...' which is correctly
translated as 'Nova'), along with some of its items.
* Edit->Modules and Edit->Units
* Filters->Decor ('Decor' remains untranslated, though its contents
are correctly translated)
* 'Windows' menu and both of its submenus
These elements are untranslated in all languages due to this; none of
the po files cover any of the above, according to grep.
It looks to me like nobody remembered to update the .po files after
the menu reorganization. (or is the reorganization still ongoing?)
Is this an oversight or is it not the right time to do that yet?
David
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Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
On Wednesday 17 September 2003 9:30 am, Daniel Egger wrote: > Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files > Date: Today 9:30:45 am > From: Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Message was signed with unknown key. > The validity of the signature cannot be verified. > Problem: OpenPGP plug-in was not specified. > Use the 'Settings->Configure KMail->Security' dialog to specify the > plug-in or ask your system administrator to do that for you. > > Am Mit, 2003-09-17 um 13.29 schrieb Sven Neumann: > > > Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n > > > should be changed. > > > > I might have missed something but what exactly do you think needs > > to be changed in README.i18n? > > I read in the thread that the GTP contact address is dead, if this > is the case and it was mentioned in the README we should have > changed it. However the broken address seems to come from somewhere > else so this is a non-issue for us. yes, a non issue. The dead address was the e-mail for the pt_BR coordinator's e-mail. I found his up to date e-mail in another free software related list (and warned him that the GTP page should be updated). I am now in touch with the guys at the pt_BR gtp team, and I will be able to help there with the Gimp. JS -><- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Am Mit, 2003-09-17 um 13.29 schrieb Sven Neumann: > > Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n should be > > changed. > I might have missed something but what exactly do you think needs to > be changed in README.i18n? I read in the thread that the GTP contact address is dead, if this is the case and it was mentioned in the README we should have changed it. However the broken address seems to come from somewhere else so this is a non-issue for us. -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Hi, Daniel Egger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n should be > changed. I might have missed something but what exactly do you think needs to be changed in README.i18n? Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Am Die, 2003-09-16 um 19.10 schrieb David Neary: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is this the official new list for the GTP? If so README.i18n should be changed. -- Servus, Daniel signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Here goes what I got when writting the one in charge for pt_BR in the > GTP pages: Snip bounce > Does GTP have a list or something? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hope this helps, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 1:11 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Sure. README.i18n contains the basics of how to use gettext. > > > > The inaccurate Rough Guide is like this... you copy an existing > > po template file to one named after your localisation, translate > > the messages (being careful to use UTF-8), add the po files to > > CVS, and when you have po files for each of the localised > > directories (the dirs starting with po), add the language to > > ALL_LINGUAS in Makefile.am > > You missed an important point here: You should coordinate your > translation effort with the GTP (GNOME Translation Project). Please > do not start working on translations (new or existing ones) without > getting in contact with the translation team for the particular > language you are interested in. Here goes what I got when writting the one in charge for pt_BR in the GTP pages: Hi. This is the qmail-send program at conectiva.com.br. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. -- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry, no mailbox here by that name. (#5.1.1) --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: (qmail 22270 invoked by uid 0); 16 Sep 2003 16:30:10 - Received: from perninha.conectiva.com.br (200.250.58.156) by burns.conectiva with SMTP; 16 Sep 2003 16:30:10 - Received: by perninha.conectiva.com.br (Postfix) id 1C23747432; Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:35:04 -0300 (BRT) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does GTP have a list or something? I think I have heard from this Godoy in a local free-software list, I will check. Meanwhile I've written the guy listed in the GIMP pt_BR file - that mail did not seen to fail, and I will possibly get a reply. > > > Sven > ___ > Gimp-developer mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Hi, David Neary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sure. README.i18n contains the basics of how to use gettext. > > The inaccurate Rough Guide is like this... you copy an existing > po template file to one named after your localisation, translate > the messages (being careful to use UTF-8), add the po files to CVS, > and when you have po files for each of the localised directories > (the dirs starting with po), add the language to ALL_LINGUAS in > Makefile.am You missed an important point here: You should coordinate your translation effort with the GTP (GNOME Translation Project). Please do not start working on translations (new or existing ones) without getting in contact with the translation team for the particular language you are interested in. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Hi, "Joao S. O. Bueno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can someone point me to a "howto" or explaination on how are the > files firstly generated? > > I usually run everything in English here, but I was browsing the > pt_BR.po, and it is looking a little worse than if the translations > were done by an authomatic engine. Please read README.i18n as found in the toplevel directory of the GIMP source tree. If you have any questions not answered there, please feel free to ask here or on the gnome-i18n mailing list. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] PO files
Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Can someone point me to a "howto" or explaination on how are the files > firstly generated? Sure. README.i18n contains the basics of how to use gettext. The inaccurate Rough Guide is like this... you copy an existing po template file to one named after your localisation, translate the messages (being careful to use UTF-8), add the po files to CVS, and when you have po files for each of the localised directories (the dirs starting with po), add the language to ALL_LINGUAS in Makefile.am The template files are .pot, and .mo files are the actual files used when localising - they're the hashmaps that map a message onto its localised version. Or something. > I usually run everything in English here, but I was browsing the > pt_BR.po, and it is looking a little worse than if the translations > were done by an authomatic engine. If the language already exists, you can ignore the bits above, and just start translating the messages directly in pt_BR.po in the various directories, and the pt_BR.mos will be generated automatically when you make. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Lyon, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] PO files
Can someone point me to a "howto" or explaination on how are the files firstly generated? I usually run everything in English here, but I was browsing the pt_BR.po, and it is looking a little worse than if the translations were done by an authomatic engine. I'd guess no one at the connectiva team listed in the file is a GIMP user at all. Regards, JS -><- ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
