Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Am Sonntag 13 Februar 2005 21:27 schrieb Bob Friesenhahn:
> None of these metadata types has anything to do with embedding ICC
> profiles in JFIF JPEG files.

Hello Bob,

that's true, but the icc profiles are may be stored in a similar way, at 
least icc is listed here:

http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/jpeg_info/acronyms.html

It's also a good recource of image file specs (jpeg tiff metadata and 
Adobe PS related stuff): 
http://www.ozhiker.com/electronics/pjmt/jpeg_info/index.html

Kind regards

Gerhard
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Jordi Canton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
Thank you John, I have hust checked that code and compared it to the
actual GIMP jpeg part. As I can see, actually Gimp does not support the
embedding of ICC profiles in JPEG files.
Hi. I'm actually working on getting such things into Inkscape now, and have 
been
looking into details on things.
Just to let you know... there are a few different ways things might be embedded.
In general they can get three different types of metadata: EXIF, XMP and IPTC.
(I'm just getting up to speed on EXIF and IPTC and with jpeg, since my initial
focus was with SVG and XMP).
None of these metadata types has anything to do with embedding ICC 
profiles in JFIF JPEG files.

Bob
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread William Skaggs


Jon Cruz wrote:

> Just to let you know... there are a few different ways things might be 
> embedded.
> In general they can get three different types of metadata: EXIF, XMP and IPTC.
> (I'm just getting up to speed on EXIF and IPTC and with jpeg, since my initial
> focus was with SVG and XMP). 

GIMP is actually pretty far along toward dealing with this:  see 

http://wilber.gimp.org/~raphael/metadata/

and a lot of related discussion in the archives of the list.

Best,
  -- Bill
 

 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread jon
Quoting Jordi Canton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> >
> Thank you John, I have hust checked that code and compared it to the
> actual GIMP jpeg part. As I can see, actually Gimp does not support the
> embedding of ICC profiles in JPEG files.
>

Hi. I'm actually working on getting such things into Inkscape now, and have been
looking into details on things.

Just to let you know... there are a few different ways things might be embedded.
In general they can get three different types of metadata: EXIF, XMP and IPTC.
(I'm just getting up to speed on EXIF and IPTC and with jpeg, since my initial
focus was with SVG and XMP).

XMP is Adobe's new way to embed metadata in files. They've based it on
standards, and seem to be trying to play nice with everyone. It uses RDF for
the "how" to store data, and then gets into details of "what" to store.
Additionally, even IPTC data is getting into XMP.

http://www.adobe.com/products/xmp/main.html

The spec itself is at
http://partners.adobe.com/public/developer/en/xmp/sdk/xmpspecification.pdf

Currently page 75 covers embedding XMP in Jpeg.

And this might lend a little insight
http://support.adobe.com/devsup/devsup.nsf/docs/53348.htm

I'm not sure how much current tools are using those, but its adoption is
speeding up. Oh, and I know I've seen the image thumbnail show up in XMP for a
while now.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Sunday 13 February 2005 08:58, Jordi Canton wrote:
> >You can embed ICC profiles in JPEG files. The lcms distribution
> >contains code to insert and extract profiles: check the sources
> > for jpegicc and friends.
>
> Thank you John, I have hust checked that code and compared it to
> the actual GIMP jpeg part. As I can see, actually Gimp does not
> support the embedding of ICC profiles in JPEG files.
>
> Is there any official mantainer of this part?. I can try to modify 
> this part myself and submit a patch, but I don't want to interfere
> with anyone's work.

Submit a properly commented patch to bugzilla - in bugzilla.gnome.org.
That is teh way to go, and not interfering in anyone's work - 
regardless of anyone being more or less officially in charge of 
certain partts of the program.

Once filed in bugzilla, your patch will be looked upon by teh core 
developers - revisons might get asked - and if it is approved, it 
will be commited by the developers themselves, ensuring no conflicts 
happen.

And of course, you as anyone else, are mostly welcome to post usefull 
patches to bugzilla - It is not meant only for reporting problems, 
but also for feature requests and code management.


Regards,

JS
-><-
>
> Jordi
>

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[Gimp-developer] Re: Some questions

2005-02-13 Thread Jordi Canton

You can embed ICC profiles in JPEG files. The lcms distribution
contains code to insert and extract profiles: check the sources for
jpegicc and friends.
 

Thank you John, I have hust checked that code and compared it to the 
actual GIMP jpeg part. As I can see, actually Gimp does not support the 
embedding of ICC profiles in JPEG files.

Is there any official mantainer of this part?. I can try to modify  this 
part myself and submit a patch, but I don't want to interfere with 
anyone's work.

Jordi
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