[Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks
The [WilberWorks] website seems bought off and of course not much is left to be found on google and friends. This is the best link I could find: http://linux.rice.edu/webmap/appdescriptions/WilberWorks.html Let's hope one of the folks involved into this can tell us more about the goals of WilberWorks and why it didn't work (that well). Perhaps there are things we can learn from it... WilberWorks was founded by http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,10975,00.html http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.12/alt.scientology.war.html?pg=2topic= And donations would be one of its major points. However having a reliable source of money, like manual and chachka sales can only help TGF be more helpful. Basically, _anything_ TGF does will cost money. The more money it has, the more helpful things it can do. If you put it that way (with all the other things you said in your reply) it feels a lot better already. Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks
Sven, The [WilberWorks] website seems bought off and of course not much is left to be found on google and friends. This is the best link I could find... Google deserves more credit. Here's what Larry Ewing says: http://www.isc.tamu.edu/~lewing/gimp/wilber.html According to Wired, WilberWorks was founded by Scott Goehring. http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,10975,00.html Can anyone say with certainty whether that is the same Scott Goehring that founded alt.religion.scientology? http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/3.12/alt.scientology.war.html?pg=2topic= Let's hope one of the folks involved into this can tell us more about the goals of WilberWorks and why it didn't work (that well). Perhaps there are things we can learn from it... Federico Mena Quintero and Scott Goehring reportedly worked on plug_in_whirl_pinch. http://hans.breuer.org/gimp/pdb/byauthor.html Perhaps Federico has a comment on Scott Goehring and what happened to WilberWorks. Cheers, Robin ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks
Robin Rowe wrote: Can anyone say with certainty whether that is the same Scott Goehring that founded alt.religion.scientology? In what way is this important? --Adam -- Adam D. Moss . ,,^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.foxbox.org/ co:3 i18n ought to be abbreviated i2n to make it quicker to write!-snout ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] Re: WilberWorks
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 22:26:22 -0700, Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The [WilberWorks] website seems bought off and of course not much is left to be found on google and friends. This is the best link I could find: http://linux.rice.edu/webmap/appdescriptions/WilberWorks.html Let's hope one of the folks involved into this can tell us more about the goals of WilberWorks and why it didn't work (that well). Perhaps there are things we can learn from it... WilberWorks was founded by http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,10975,00.html I did a quick grep through my own archives, and I found the following message sent by Scott Goehring to this list in January 1998 (in the pre-1.0 days). It describes briefly what WilberWorks was intended to be. As a coincidence, it was a reply to a message that I posted earlier, about using the LGPL instead of GPL for libgimp: From: Scott Goehring [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gimp-devel] The Gimp The GPL Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:32:31 -0500 [...] Raphael Well, I wouldn't mind if some derivative of the GIMP was sold Raphael and supported by a commercial company. It would even be a Raphael good thing, because more people would then trust the GIMP. WilberWorks plans to sell copies of the Gimp (the fee being for copying and distribution) and to offer support packages (various levels of service for varying fees). This is entirely permissible under the GPL: you can charge for services related to the product, including for making the product conveniently available, but cannot restrict the intellectual properties themselves. [...] A few weeks later, Scott switched his e-mail address to [EMAIL PROTECTED], although he switched back to his old address in July 1998. When WilberWorks started, Raph Levien was also involved and was putting together the GIMP 1.0 CD to be sold by WilberWorks. If Scott cannot be reached, I suppose that Raph could provide more details about why the company did not fly as expected. The last appearance of Scott was in September 1999. I haven't received any messages from him since then (I was exchanging some e-mails with him because he was the co-proponent of the RFD that I wrote in 1998 for the creation of comp.graphics.apps.gimp). The WilberWorks site and its bug reporting system stopped working in 2000 (January or February?) and the domain name expired a few months later. Once available, the domain was quickly picked up by a porn site, as you can see in this bug report: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61017 In 2002, the porn site gave up the domain name and it was replaced by the domain parking/search page that you can see now. -Raphaël ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
