Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
David Weeks ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I called you right the first time. You don't know jack about much, and > nothing about the rest of it. > [...] Huh? The Gimp-Developer Mailing list is *not* about personal insulting people you apparently don't like. While the approach taken by Robin - brushing up an ancient codebase - might be questionable, I highly appreciate that he is contributing to the Gimp project. This apparently can not be said about you - at least I am unable to find any reference to you in the Changelogs or in the AUTHORS file. Please stop flaming around with people that try to help. Thanks, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
So Adam, what kept from doing so this time? Anyone who a) doesn't know what regular expressions are, and b) thinks a project is better without them is c) not fit for work in *nix. gimp or otherwise. Call it a basic competence. A basic competence. Soberly yours, David Weeks On Wednesday 27 November 2002 06:46 pm, Adam D. Moss wrote: > David Weeks wrote: > > I called you right the first time. You don't know jack about much, and > > nothing about the rest of it. You're to green to fathom > > [blah blah blah] > > > Quit working with computers and go back to the > > garbage you came from -- AKA Microsoft. > > [blah blah blah] > > Wow. At least when /I'm/ drunk I take my mindless babbling > to IRC where it fits in just fine. -- You can call me at: 813-236-2009, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shop TampaPC.com! ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
David Weeks wrote: > I called you right the first time. You don't know jack about much, and > nothing about the rest of it. You're to green to phathom [blah blah blah] > Quit working with computers and go back to the > garbage you came from -- AKA Microsoft. [blah blah blah] Wow. At least when /I'm/ drunk I take my mindless babbling to IRC where it fits in just fine. -- Adam D. Moss . ,,^^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.foxbox.org/ co:3 ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
tor 2002-11-28 klockan 00.32 skrev David Weeks: > Robin, > > I called you right the first time. David, please keep childish name-calling rants like this for yourself. Thanks. Kind regards, Christian ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] regex
Robin, I called you right the first time. You don't know jack about much, and nothing about the rest of it. You're to green to phathom, let alone be embarassed, by your suggestion to remove regular expressions. This is *nix, and that's how *nix works. That's why *nix works. And GIMP is an *nix thing. Don't like it? Quit working with computers and go back to the garbage you came from -- AKA Microsoft. See, it's like this: Unix is American, Microsoft is French. That Microsoft does NOT have it is an endorsement to have it. That Microsoft would have it is a caution if you do. All this time you thought you worked with computers. NOT! Microsoft products are necesarrily products that let people like you think you're developing. They let people who don't know anything about computers work with computers. They make it "easy". Only it isn't easy, their stuff never works, their customers never learn, and that leaves it to the *nix folks to build stuff that really works. I bet you don't even know what globbing characters are you're that ignoRANT. And RANT you've done. You should drop this project. I've no confidence in the work of someone so clearly clueless. I'm surprised your mail isn't in html! David Weeks -- You can call me at: 813-236-2009, USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Shop TampaPC.com! ### David, > I think the point is probably to do a > trawl through legacy code and see how much of it can be flushed, > if any. I wish! Sometime later. Although regex is available with *nix, it isn't part of Windows. My choice is to remove it or fix the broken regex implemenation included in Film Gimp. That regex code is full of difficult to debug macros. > Now that Robin knows that > the regex code is useful, at least to some people, he's not > planning on touching it. I'm not? Cheers, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
David, > I think the point is probably to do a > trawl through legacy code and see how much of it can be flushed, > if any. I wish! Sometime later. Although regex is available with *nix, it isn't part of Windows. My choice is to remove it or fix the broken regex implemenation included in Film Gimp. That regex code is full of difficult to debug macros. > Now that Robin knows that > the regex code is useful, at least to some people, he's not > planning on touching it. I'm not? Cheers, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Sven Neumann wrote: > "Robin Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do I correctly surmise that regex could be removed > > without being missed? > > Actually I don't understand at all why you are dealing with this > code. It seems unrelated to 16-bit or floating point support. If you > ask me, stop fiddling with this stone-old code base and try to help > building a gimp core that fits the needs of film-editing. Ever the diplomat, Sven. I think the point is probably to do a trawl through legacy code and see how much of it can be flushed, if any. At least that's how I took it. Now that Robin knows that the regex code is useful, at least to some people, he's not planning on touching it. Cheers, Dave. -- David Neary, Marseille, France E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Hi, "Robin Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Ok, I guess I'm just not making my question clear. I understand that regex > enables doing a wildcard search in the plug-ins database. > > What I have trouble imagining is the scenario where regex search in Gimp is > necessary or useful. Few users even know how to phrase a regex search. Is > this just feature-itis? Do I correctly surmise that regex could be removed > without being missed? why would you want to remove a feature that is implemented in libc anyway? All you'd gain is one nice feature less. Actually I don't understand at all why you are dealing with this code. It seems unrelated to 16-bit or floating point support. If you ask me, stop fiddling with this stone-old code base and try to help building a gimp core that fits the needs of film-editing. Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Simon, > It enables powerful searches over the various help texts plugins provide > via their Registration. I surely do not understand why having this > feature might be considered a bad thing. Thanks for the insights from you and Guillermo. I think I understand now. > Well, maybe it is a little used feature, but I do not understand why > we should remove it? There's no reason you should remove it from Gimp. The motive behind my question is I am considering whether to remove regex from Film Gimp. Never having used that feature, I was just trying to figure out what it really does. Cheers, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Robin Rowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > What I have trouble imagining is the scenario where regex search in Gimp is > necessary or useful. Few users even know how to phrase a regex search. Is > this just feature-itis? Do I correctly surmise that regex could be removed > without being missed? Well, maybe it is a little used feature, but I do not understand why we should remove it? It enables powerful searches over the various help texts plugins provide via their Registration. I surely do not understand why having this feature might be considered a bad thing. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Simon, > > My confusion relates to script-fu and gimp plug-ins with respect to regex. > > Why query a plug-in as a regular expression? What's the point? > > To have a nice way to specify a search pattern. For thinks like a > PDB-Browser for example. Ok, I guess I'm just not making my question clear. I understand that regex enables doing a wildcard search in the plug-ins database. What I have trouble imagining is the scenario where regex search in Gimp is necessary or useful. Few users even know how to phrase a regex search. Is this just feature-itis? Do I correctly surmise that regex could be removed without being missed? Thanks, Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex+
Robin Rowe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > The regex code is used by gimp-plug-ins-query (and a similar function > > in script-fu). > > Yes, I can follow that from the code. I understand what regex does > generally, just not why gimp-plug-ins-query needs it. > > My confusion relates to script-fu and gimp plug-ins with respect to regex. > Why query a plug-in as a regular expression? What's the point? To have a nice way to specify a search pattern. For thinks like a PDB-Browser for example. Bye, Simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/ ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
Sven, > The regex code is used by gimp-plug-ins-query (and a similar function > in script-fu). Yes, I can follow that from the code. I understand what regex does generally, just not why gimp-plug-ins-query needs it. My confusion relates to script-fu and gimp plug-ins with respect to regex. Why query a plug-in as a regular expression? What's the point? Thanks! Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
Re: [Gimp-developer] regex
Hi, "Robin Rowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi. GIMP has its own regex.c that the procedural database uses. That seems > to look up plug-ins using regexec. I'm having a little difficulty > understanding the logic of the code. Can anybody explain how regex is used > by GIMP? Why is it necessary? GIMP doesn't use it's own regex implementation any longer. We only provide one as a fallback for the case that libc doesn't have the regex functionality we need. This is the code in the regexrepl directory that you'll find in the toplevel source directory. The regex code is used by gimp-plug-ins-query (and a similar function in script-fu). I don't understand how you can not understand this code since it seems pretty straight-forward. Could you elaborate on your problems? Salut, Sven ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
[Gimp-developer] regex
Hi. GIMP has its own regex.c that the procedural database uses. That seems to look up plug-ins using regexec. I'm having a little difficulty understanding the logic of the code. Can anybody explain how regex is used by GIMP? Why is it necessary? Thanks! Robin --- www.FilmGimp.org www.LinuxMovies.org www.OpenSourceProgrammers.org ___ Gimp-developer mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
