Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Triage! (was Re: [gimpwin-users] PNG blank display bug)

2000-01-10 Thread Garry R. Osgood

Simon Budig wrote:

 Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
   How about some comments for feature triage? There are some features in
   Gimp 1.1.x which are buggy or unusable, yet stay the same for weeks

 snip...

 Ill try to do something on the tool in the next time, but as always I
 cannot promise anything. The first thing would be the API cleanup, the
 second thing would be to prepare the conversion to a selection, but bound to
 some strange events, since we need the Integration for the right way to
 do it.

If there were one feature of Simon's path tool that I would like to have
automagically appear in the Integrated path selection tool, it is the ability
to manipulate the curve by "pulling" on it directly. it is a very pleasant
way to adjust curves. It's effect needs to be adjusted near control points;
bezier basis functions associated with the first and fourth control points
grow expotentially to unity, so manipulating Simon's path near control
points can be a tad exasperating.

Be good, be well

Garry




Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Triage! (was Re: [gimpwin-users] PNG blank display bug)

2000-01-10 Thread Simon Budig

Garry R. Osgood ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 If there were one feature of Simon's path tool that I would like to have
 automagically appear in the Integrated path selection tool, it is the ability
 to manipulate the curve by "pulling" on it directly. it is a very pleasant
 way to adjust curves. It's effect needs to be adjusted near control points;
 bezier basis functions associated with the first and fourth control points
 grow expotentially to unity, so manipulating Simon's path near control
^  infinity?
 points can be a tad exasperating.

Yeah. The basic idea is, that when you drag on the curve near an endpoint
you dont want to change the curve at the other endpoint. So I have to
move the handle from the near endpoint more drastically to achieve
the "curve-dragging" effect. Maybe I should limit the ratio at some point...

Anyway: It is not too hard to get the control-point back: Simply drag
the curve near the anchor towards the anchor. The controlpoint will
appear as quick as he went away earlier :-)

Bye,
Simon
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Re: [gimp-devel] Re: Triage! (was Re: [gimpwin-users] PNG blank display bug)

2000-01-10 Thread Simon Budig

Sven Neumann ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  How about some comments for feature triage? There are some features in
  Gimp 1.1.x which are buggy or unusable, yet stay the same for weeks
  at a time. Without paid staff to do this work, we must throw away [*]
  stuff that's not going to make it. On my short list...

[...]

  * Paths
 
 Simon ?

Umm - Yes. I´m terribly sorry, but at the moment my Dis-organizer works
a little bit too well. A short summary of the state of the tool:

Good News:
* Manipulating the path works, maybe needs some minor cleanups.
* Converting to a selection probably is easy, since there is code
  from Andy to convert an array of floats to an selection.
* The code seems fairly stable - I dont get crashes at the moment.

Bad News:
* The API for new path types is not sane at the moment. At some points
  are Ints instead of floats, some functions do have too much parameters
  and so on. 
* The integration with the paths Tab in the LC Dialog/the PDB Path API/
  The XCF-Format is probably horrible - at least for me. Im not sure
  if this is on the TODO for 1.2, since there are lots of points, where
  we can break something.

My point of view: If the Integration of the Paths tool could not be done
before 1.2 we should not include the tool. Its use is too limited in the
current state. It should be fairly easy to remove the files shortly before
the 1.2 release if necessary.

Ill try to do something on the tool in the next time, but as always I
cannot promise anything. The first thing would be the API cleanup, the
second thing would be to prepare the conversion to a selection, but bound to
some strange events, since we need the Integration for the right way to
do it.

Hope this clears some things. Ill respond to questions... :-)

Bye,
Simon

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