opinion of end-users
I've shown Gimp 1.1.15 to two "normal" end-users (ie non-programmers), one of which had a Wacom tablet. PROS: * Tear-off menus are useful and intuitive (I think we should perhaps reinforce the --- line by a scissor logo (such as character 0x21 in the Zapf Dingbats font). * Previews in file loading work well and are appreciated. * XInput-aware tools, especially Ink, do interesting effects. * i18n is appreciated. CONS: A few things in the core application: * Layers and channels are *not* intuitive enough. * Bucket fill and magic select can't be made to select an area of contiguous emptyness (alpha=0). * The error margin in Select By Color is not very satisfactory. A selector that could specify a portion of the HSV space (perhaps as three ranges) could be interesting. More problematic are the plugins: * Many plug-ins are not intuitive. They use self-made vocabulary, feature no online help, have numeric parameters whose influence is mysterious... * Plug-ins that generate another image from the current image (ex: polar coords) have no parameter (output size). * Some plugins don't work on grayscale images for no clear reason. PROBLEMS: * Printing (under Linux) yields back results on certain printers (HP DeskJet 690C). * The tablet doesn't work under Windows. * Sometimes, clicking on a layer name in the Layers dialog does not work. * PovRay synthesis is (incorrectly) disabled when no image is open. --- David Monniaux - Laboratoire d'Informatique de l'Ecole Normale Superieure 45, rue d'Ulm 75230 PARIS cedex 5 Phone: +33 1 44 32 20 83 http://www.di.ens.fr/~monniaux Fax: +33 1 44 32 20 80
Re: opinion of end-users
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:56:42 +0100 (CET) From: David Monniaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROBLEMS: * Printing (under Linux) yields back results on certain printers (HP DeskJet 690C). What exactly are the problems? There are some fixes for HP printers in Print 3.0.5 (on my web site), but I'm curious as to the exact problems they've observed. -- Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
Re: opinion of end-users
Glyph Lefkowitz writes: XInput *obviously* won't work on Win32, since it's **X**input ^_^ (sarcasmhm, I wonder, maybe we could use DirectX-Input or something/sarcasm)) The tablet input was just temporarily broken in the Windows GTk+ version in the currently distributed GIMP for Windows snapshot. The brokenness was a side-effect of the code changes when the GDK backends were reorganised. The code to support tablet input on Windows has been in GTk+ for some time. (Obviously it doesn't use XInput, but another API, called WinTab.) That said, I certainly admit that the tablet support on Windows needs improvement. --tml
Re: opinion of end-users
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:04:20 +0100 (MET) From: Avi Bercovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROBLEMS: * Printing (under Linux) yields back results on certain printers (HP DeskJet 690C). adjusting the gamma of the image works really well for me. Maybe the print dialog should offer some 'standard' gamma settings. The print plugin does have standard gamma and density settings for different printers. The adjustments in the print dialog box are relative to these (e. g. a gamma setting of 100 in the dialog box is multiplied by the default gamma recorded for that printer). Things changed quite a bit in 1.1.15; there are a lot more settings to play with now. -- Robert Krawitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tiac.net/users/rlk/ Tall Clubs International -- http://www.tall.org/ or 1-888-IM-TALL-2 Member of the League for Programming Freedom -- mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Linux doesn't dictate how I work, I dictate how Linux works." --Eric Crampton
Re: opinion of end-users
On Mon, 17 Jan 2000, Robert L Krawitz wrote: Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:04:20 +0100 (MET) From: Avi Bercovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] PROBLEMS: * Printing (under Linux) yields back results on certain printers (HP DeskJet 690C). adjusting the gamma of the image works really well for me. Maybe the print dialog should offer some 'standard' gamma settings. The print plugin does have standard gamma and density settings for different printers. The adjustments in the print dialog box are relative to these (e. g. a gamma setting of 100 in the dialog box is multiplied by the default gamma recorded for that printer). Things changed quite a bit in 1.1.15; there are a lot more settings to play with now. Oops.. I'm still on a 10 day old 1.1.14 CVS... ttfn, avi -- Avi Bercovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sinjeur Semeynsstraat 9 Dept. of Social Science Informatics (SWI) 1183LD Amstelveen University of Amsterdam
Re: opinion of end-users
Glyph Lefkowitz writes: XInput *obviously* won't work on Win32, since it's **X**input ^_^ (sarcasmhm, I wonder, maybe we could use DirectX-Input or something/sarcasm)) The tablet input was just temporarily broken in the Windows GTk+ version in the currently distributed GIMP for Windows snapshot. The brokenness was a side-effect of the code changes when the GDK backends were reorganised. The code to support tablet input on Windows has been in GTk+ for some time. (Obviously it doesn't use XInput, but another API, called WinTab.) WinTab? My old little friend WinTab. ; That said, I certainly admit that the tablet support on Windows needs improvement. I dunno Gimp, but MS Windows needs a better WinTab (at least NT). I complained to Wacom about being unable to turn off and on my tablet, and they told me it was a MS Windows problem. I tried with the NT services thing, and there was not way, it did nothing (at least nothing broke either). XFree allows it, if you do not need the tablet, you can turn it off. Only must be on when launching X, then you can play with the switch as much as you want. [For the record, so if problem arises it is answered already.] GSR