Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 10/02/13 17:42, Timo Witte escribió:


Boosting the color balance tool to add this new stuff sounds like a
really cool GSoC project, especially now that making GIMP suitable for
VFX work became one of the targets.

Does GIMP offer GSoC projects? Would this "small" task also be a GGSoC
project?


I don't think it's a "small" task if the project involves turning the 
current color balance into a flexible and industry-grade tool.
That would involve not only tweaking the UI but also making the output 
of the tool comply the ASC-CDL standard and storing and retrieving those 
presets.


When I suggested it as a possible GSoC target I was thinking about 
improving the tool to make it suitable for VFX work, not just changing 
the UI.


Gez
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Timo Witte wrote:

>> Boosting the color balance tool to add this new stuff sounds like a
>> really cool GSoC project, especially now that making GIMP suitable for
>> VFX work became one of the targets.
> Does GIMP offer GSoC projects? Would this "small" task also be a GGSoC
> project?

Offer? :) We usually do participate at GSoC, if that's what you mean :)

Alexandre Prokoudine
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Timo Witte


Am 10.02.2013 20:26, schrieb Guillermo Espertino (Gez):
> El 10/02/13 15:57, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Timo Witte wrote:
>>> I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
>>> of the UI to make it more intuitive. I have made a quick mockup of that:
>>> http://files.spacefish.biz/gimp/new_color_correction_menu.png
>>> Maybe i got this wrong, but isn´t the "Color Balance" menu just a simple
>>> 3-Way Color Correction Panel?
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/PhaXziO.png would probably be a slightly more
>> traditional rendering :)
>>
>>> What do you think about the idea?
>>
>> I guess some people would like to retain numeric input, but that's
>> just my gut feeling. For me 3-way would be preferable.
> 
> The tool could offer both methods so users can choose.
> Actually, Blender has two different methods: Lift/Gamma/Gain and
> Offset/Power/Slope (the second is the ASC-CDL standard exchange format
> for color grading).
> If the 3-way UI and the current numeric inputs have a correspondence,
> users could change between modes without loosing the grading.
I like they way blender does it in the compositing node too, we could
port that "Design" to the GIMP Dialog.
I thought about the numeric input values too, maybe just add the
colorwheels to the current dialog, and keep the sliders / numeric input.
If someone changes the sliders the change is reflected on the
colorwheels and vice versa.

But i think it could get ambigious if the radiobox selector for shadows,
midtones, highlights is still present and the 3 color wheels aswell..

> Boosting the color balance tool to add this new stuff sounds like a
> really cool GSoC project, especially now that making GIMP suitable for
> VFX work became one of the targets.
Does GIMP offer GSoC projects? Would this "small" task also be a GGSoC
project?



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Request: Choose different installation path

2013-02-10 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Sunday, February 10, 2013, 14:44:26, scl wrote:

> Hi,

> in the Download section of a German computer magazine page [1]
> I found the wish to choose GIMPs installation path.
> I also think this is a good idea, for instance to have two GIMP
> installations in parallel for regression testing.
> Unfortunately the Windows installer doesn't provide an option for this,
> neither in the default nor in the customized installation.
> Before filing an enhancement request in Bugzilla I ask you:
> how do you think about it? Would this be a nice feature?

My installer allows you to change the installation directory if GIMP
isn't already installed (if it is, the current version will be
upgraded).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 10/02/13 15:57, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió:

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Timo Witte wrote:

I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
of the UI to make it more intuitive. I have made a quick mockup of that:
http://files.spacefish.biz/gimp/new_color_correction_menu.png
Maybe i got this wrong, but isn´t the "Color Balance" menu just a simple
3-Way Color Correction Panel?


http://i.imgur.com/PhaXziO.png would probably be a slightly more
traditional rendering :)


What do you think about the idea?


I guess some people would like to retain numeric input, but that's
just my gut feeling. For me 3-way would be preferable.


The tool could offer both methods so users can choose.
Actually, Blender has two different methods: Lift/Gamma/Gain and 
Offset/Power/Slope (the second is the ASC-CDL standard exchange format 
for color grading).
If the 3-way UI and the current numeric inputs have a correspondence, 
users could change between modes without loosing the grading.


Boosting the color balance tool to add this new stuff sounds like a 
really cool GSoC project, especially now that making GIMP suitable for 
VFX work became one of the targets.


Gez
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread scl

Am 10.02.13 19:36, schrieb Timo Witte:

I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
of the UI to make it more intuitive. I have made a quick mockup of that:
http://files.spacefish.biz/gimp/new_color_correction_menu.png
Maybe i got this wrong, but isn´t the "Color Balance" menu just a simple
3-Way Color Correction Panel?

What do you think about the idea?


Not bad ;-)
Send it to the GIMP UI brainstorm team, see 
http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.de/


Kind regards,

Sven

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sun, 2013-02-10 at 22:57 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Timo Witte wrote:
> > I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
> > of the UI to make it more intuitive. 
[...]

> http://i.imgur.com/PhaXziO.png would probably be a slightly more
> traditional rendering :)
> 
> > What do you think about the idea?
> 
> I guess some people would like to retain numeric input, but that's
> just my gut feeling. For me 3-way would be preferable.

I would definitely want to keep the numbers. For one thing you're not
going to be able to drag those dots-in-circles in real time, since it
can take several minutes to redraw the screen for each change - unless 
the filter was modified to work on the preview image first, at least.

And yes, I have a reasonably recent, powerful computer, but I work with
print-resolution images - 45 to 500 Megapixel digital cameras are not
unheard of either.

In the meantime, just having a colour bar on each slider, or above it,
in the existing dialogue, would greatly help colour balance and also
colourize.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Timo Witte wrote:
> I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
> of the UI to make it more intuitive. I have made a quick mockup of that:
> http://files.spacefish.biz/gimp/new_color_correction_menu.png
> Maybe i got this wrong, but isn´t the "Color Balance" menu just a simple
> 3-Way Color Correction Panel?

http://i.imgur.com/PhaXziO.png would probably be a slightly more
traditional rendering :)

> What do you think about the idea?

I guess some people would like to retain numeric input, but that's
just my gut feeling. For me 3-way would be preferable.

Alexandre Prokoudine
http://libregraphicsworld.org
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[Gimp-developer] Change Request: Redesign the "Color Balance" UI

2013-02-10 Thread Timo Witte
I used "Color Balance" a lot recently. And i want to propose a redesign
of the UI to make it more intuitive. I have made a quick mockup of that:
http://files.spacefish.biz/gimp/new_color_correction_menu.png
Maybe i got this wrong, but isn´t the "Color Balance" menu just a simple
3-Way Color Correction Panel?

What do you think about the idea?



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Request: Choose different installation path

2013-02-10 Thread Partha Bagchi
My builds have default to c:\Program Files\Gimp-x.x.x. However, you can
choose to install it anywhere you like.



On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:44 AM, scl  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> in the Download section of a German computer magazine page [1]
> I found the wish to choose GIMPs installation path.
> I also think this is a good idea, for instance to have two GIMP
> installations in parallel for regression testing.
> Unfortunately the Windows installer doesn't provide an option for this,
> neither in the default nor in the customized installation.
> Before filing an enhancement request in Bugzilla I ask you:
> how do you think about it? Would this be a nice feature?
>
> Kind regards,
> Sven
>
>
> [1] 
> http://www.heise.de/download/**gimp.html,
> comment #19
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Enhancement Request: Choose different installation path

2013-02-10 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 10.02.2013 14:44, scl wrote:

> Unfortunately the Windows installer doesn't provide an option for this,
> neither in the default nor in the customized installation.
> Before filing an enhancement request in Bugzilla I ask you:
> how do you think about it? Would this be a nice feature?

The installer script source code is available, you can add this and
contribute a patch.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.8.4 released

2013-02-10 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Tue, 05 Feb 2013 22:05:24 +0100, Michael Natterer a scris:

> GIMP 2.8.4 has been released. This is a bugfix release
> in the stable 2.8 series, no new features were added.

No one has yet found a fix for the 61 (now 57 in master) strings limit
bug in script-fu template for translation ?

Cristi

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[Gimp-developer] Enhancement Request: Choose different installation path

2013-02-10 Thread scl

Hi,

in the Download section of a German computer magazine page [1]
I found the wish to choose GIMPs installation path.
I also think this is a good idea, for instance to have two GIMP
installations in parallel for regression testing.
Unfortunately the Windows installer doesn't provide an option for this,
neither in the default nor in the customized installation.
Before filing an enhancement request in Bugzilla I ask you:
how do you think about it? Would this be a nice feature?

Kind regards,
Sven


[1] http://www.heise.de/download/gimp.html, comment #19
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