Re: [Gimp-developer] My plugin doesn't start anymore after upgrading mingw/gcc suite

2013-10-04 Thread Partha Bagchi
Allessandro,

I am doubtful this has anything to do with 4.8.1 since I have been using
4.8.1 in building Gimp and recently including BIMP and have not seen any
issues.

Please feel free to contact me offlist to resolve this, if you wish.

Thanks,
Partha



On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:00 AM, Alessandro Francesconi 
alessandrofrancesc...@live.it wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 This morning, on my Windows platform, I’ve decided to run a “mingw-get.exe
 upgrade” command in order to give a fresh update to my compiling tools.

 The process finished fine and the GCC version changed from 4.7.2 to
 4.8.1... but I shouldn't have done it!


 I went to my plugin source code (it’s BIMP, by the way), then I run the
 usual batch command in order to compile it with the “new” tools. The
 compiler ended without errors, but now the plugin is disappeared from GIMP!

 One strange thing after the upgrade: the filesize of my plugin’s
 executable changed from 270 KB to 320 KB... I think I have to add some new
 options to the compiler, or what?


 This is the full command I use to compile my plugin:
 https://github.com/alessandrofrancesconi/gimp-plugin-bimp/blob/master/makewin.bat


 Thanks for your attention
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:34 PM, Michael Natterer mi...@gimp.org wrote:
 On 10/04/2013 10:12 AM, Jehan Pagčs wrote:
 Also we have a bunch of fixes in gimp-2-8 branch anyway, and it is
 soon 4 months since 2.8.6. Maybe it is a good time to make a minor
 release? I feel like there is no much reason to delay bugfix releases.
 Do we have an accurate policy on minor releases?


 ASAP, when I find the time :)

Awesome. :-)

Jehan

 --Mitch

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote:

 It was the reason of why italic/bold could not be simulated anymore in
 2.8.6 for Windows.

And I suggest we keep it that way. Committing crime against typography
isn't going to make us popular among professionals.

Alexandre
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:19 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote:

 It was the reason of why italic/bold could not be simulated anymore in
 2.8.6 for Windows.

 And I suggest we keep it that way. Committing crime against typography
 isn't going to make us popular among professionals.

Well I personally have no opinion there. But I know that some people
liked this. And in this case, I would say that this should not be our
call. If people want simulated italic/bold, why prevent them? The
professionals would use fonts with the right faces, that's all. :-)
That does not break anything in the workflow of people who don't want
to use this.

In any case, massively breaking fontconfig is not the way to achieve this. ;-)

Also if we were to make such a change, it would only pertain to
Windows users, because that's the only release where we embed
Fontconfig. Other users, at least on Linux (and I guess OSX too, no?),
would have a system-wide fontconfig already and we are not going to
override the user's custom configuration.

But if a typography erudite wishes to get rid of this criminal
feature, one just has to delete the following file, and you are done:
/etc/fonts/conf.d/90-synthetic.conf
(that's the Linux most common path. You can just find the equivalent
for another installation/platform)
And that's it! :-)

Jehan


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Re: [Gimp-developer] HELP with SYMBOLIC icon theme for Gimp.

2013-10-04 Thread jEsuSdA 8)

Here you can find the bugs :

http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=60270


A - I have the symbolic icon, but I can find the widget name to load the
icon. Gimp allways loads this colorful icon and I can not change it.
¿What name has it?

There are no reference in libgimpwidgets documentation about this icon.


B - Same of A. I think solving A maybe can solve this bug.

C - I want to change this icon too. By default, gimp loads the desktop
theme icon folder, but I whant to design and load a symbolic one for
layers groups button.

D - The eye or visibility icon is designed and loaded on imagerc with:

 stock[gimp-visible] =
 {
 {images/stock-eye-12.png, *, *, gtk-button },
 {images/stock-eye-16.png, *, *, gtk-button },
 {images/stock-eye-20.png, *, *, gtk-button },
 {images/stock-eye-24.png, *, *, * }
 }

But Gimp loads the default one instead the symbolic. ¿It has another
name?, ¿How can I change it?


E -  Same as D bug but with the zoom-follow-window button.

The code in imagerc is this:

stock[gimp-zoom-follow-window] =
 {
   { images/tools/stock-zoom-follow-window-12.png, *, *,
gtk-button },
   { images/tools/stock-zoom-follow-window-16.png, *, *,
*}
 }

But Gimp loads the default one.



F - Same as D and E but related with default-colors and swap-colors.







Hi again!

Working on gtkrc I have solved F bug and improve the icons visualization.

Now, looks like that:

http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=60272


The bug D is almost done: eye icon has changed, bug when clicked, there 
are no closed eye showd, so, I need help to solve this.



Thanks.
jEsuSdA 8)




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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread Jehan Pagès
Hi,

On Sat, Oct 5, 2013 at 12:42 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine
alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote:

 It was the reason of why italic/bold could not be simulated anymore in
 2.8.6 for Windows.

 And I suggest we keep it that way. Committing crime against typography
 isn't going to make us popular among professionals.

 Well I personally have no opinion there. But I know that some people
 liked this. And in this case, I would say that this should not be our
 call. If people want simulated italic/bold, why prevent them?

 Because fake italics and bold faces are an abomination :)

 http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=822

I understand. I would still not remove the feature altogether. Maybe
there could be a warning when someone requests a bold/italic when
there is no such face and we are simulating them (GIMP does not handle
this, but maybe there is a way for us to get a feedback when this
happens), because I feel that the main issue is not that the feature
exists, but rather that there is no feedback about this from the
software.
If we were to give such a feedback, the typographic erudite would know
to step away from this font, or at least do an informed choice about
the matter.

I would personally not be against a feature request along this line.
Giving the right feedback to users, and making them informed and
active rather than passive in their choices, is totally my view of
things.
If you write such a feature request, please Cc me. :-)

Jehan

Jehan

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Re: [Gimp-developer] HELP with SYMBOLIC icon theme for Gimp.

2013-10-04 Thread Simon Budig
jEsuSdA 8) (lis...@jesusda.com) wrote:
 Working on gtkrc I have solved F bug and improve the icons visualization.

Thanks for your efforts, that indeed looks really great. I'm all for
including it in the main gimp source.

 The bug D is almost done: eye icon has changed, bug when clicked,
 there are no closed eye showd, so, I need help to solve this.

I am not sure if I understand the bug: the default theme does not
contain a closed eye icon.

Do you see the default eye when the mouse button is pressed down? Then
apparently the stock icon definition for the ACTIVE widget state is
wrong for some reason.

Thanks,
Simon

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Re: [Gimp-developer] HELP with SYMBOLIC icon theme for Gimp.

2013-10-04 Thread jEsuSdA 8)

El 04/10/13 13:59, Simon Budig escribió:

The bug D is almost done: eye icon has changed, bug when clicked,
there are no closed eye showd, so, I need help to solve this.

I am not sure if I understand the bug: the default theme does not
contain a closed eye icon.

Do you see the default eye when the mouse button is pressed down? Then
apparently the stock icon definition for the ACTIVE widget state is
wrong for some reason.



Thanks Simon,

I was wrong! As you say, there are no closed eye icon when layer is 
not visible.


I was confused with Inkscape layers where a closed eye are showed when 
visibility is off. :P


Sorry!! :D


One bug less. ¿Some idea about other ones?




Thanks,
 Simon


Thank you very much. ;)
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 04/10/13 05:12, Jehan Pagès escribió:


It was the reason of why italic/bold could not be simulated anymore in
2.8.6 for Windows.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708110



In my oppinion, that's not a bug, it's an improvement.:-)
Bold and Italics variants should be designed specifically and not simulated.
If the font family doesn't provide such variants, it's better to leave 
it as is and use only the available ones, for the sake of typographic 
quality.


This is an example to follow:
http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=822

Gez.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Next minor release?

2013-10-04 Thread sigetch
You should know the situation for the CJK (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) fonts.
There are more than 15,000 characters to be designed,  so that little font
set has bold and italics face.
In those countries, the bug reported above is very serious and critical.
We have to have options to use simulated bold and italic for those fonts.
-- sigetch


2013/10/4 Guillermo Espertino (Gez) gespert...@gmail.com

 El 04/10/13 05:12, Jehan Pagès escribió:


  It was the reason of why italic/bold could not be simulated anymore in
 2.8.6 for Windows.
 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=708110https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708110



 In my oppinion, that's not a bug, it's an improvement.:-)
 Bold and Italics variants should be designed specifically and not
 simulated.
 If the font family doesn't provide such variants, it's better to leave it
 as is and use only the available ones, for the sake of typographic quality.

 This is an example to follow:
 http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?**p=822http://tavmjong.free.fr/blog/?p=822

 Gez.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] HELP with SYMBOLIC icon theme for Gimp.

2013-10-04 Thread jEsuSdA 8)

El 04/10/13 14:37, Simon Budig escribió:

jEsuSdA 8) (lis...@jesusda.com) wrote:

A - I have the symbolic icon, but I can find the widget name to load
the icon. Gimp allways loads this colorful icon and I can not change
it. ¿What name has it?


This is imported from the default gtk stock icons: gtk-select-color



Great!
I'ts works!





B - Same of A. I think solving A maybe can solve this bug.


Yeah.


But solving A does not solve B and the old coloured icon still appears. 
¿?¿?¿? :(








C - I want to change this icon too. By default, gimp loads the
desktop theme icon folder, but I whant to design and load a symbolic
one for layers groups button.


Same here this probably is gtk-directory



Works well now! ;)

I have include the gtk-print to force CMYK color chooser to load the 
symbolic icon instead the gtk one. ;)


I create a deacoplate tab icon too.






E -  Same as D bug but with the zoom-follow-window button.


Hum, no idea about that one. gimp-zoom-follow-window should be OK.



It does not work.






F - Same as D and E but related with default-colors and swap-colors.


This should be gimp-default-colors and gimp-swap-colors, they get
used in the size GTK_ICON_SIZE_MENU.



Solved with the latest change on gtkrc. :D




I hope this helps.

Bye,
 Simon



Yeah! You help me very much!

Only two small bugs to finish. I think solving B (old gtk-color-select 
icon on tab) could be enought. The zoom-follow-window does not matter so 
much. :D



Any idea about B solution?


Here, a newest screenshot:

http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=60281


Thank you very mucho, Simon. ;)
jEsuSdA 8)


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[Gimp-developer] layer multi-select

2013-10-04 Thread Matthew Smith

Hello

I am going to make an effort to get a layer multi-select going. In this 
email I will outline what I hope to achieve and I am asking what would 
be the most effective way to go about submitting a patch that could get 
accepted.


The goal is to be able to select multiple layers, and perform actions on 
the set of selected layers as a whole. Initially the actions would be 
limited to changing the visibility, changing the locked, or moving the 
selected layers to a group. This would be different than creating a 
group of layers because it would be easier to select additional layers 
in the layer dialog by using shift + click for a range of layers or 
ctrl+click to add/remove a layer from the currently selected.


To implement this I want to add multi-select to the layers dialog. Then 
when there are multiple layers selected an action would check for 
multiple layers selected and act accordingly. Similar to using a layer 
group.


I can see writing this two different ways, I am open to suggestions for 
more though. The first way is to use the actual layers dialog and add a 
multi-select to the dialog. Then modify individual actions to check for 
a multiple selection. The second way would be to create a plugin that 
makes a duplicate layers dialog with multiple selection. This dialog 
would allow actions that are performed on multiply selected layers.


I have only briefly looked over the code, and I am open to suggestions. 
I think either way would be non-intrusive in the current selection model 
and allow some migration, such that if it works then actions can be 
migrate to using the selected layers instead of the active layer.


Thank you
Matt
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Re: [Gimp-developer] layer multi-select

2013-10-04 Thread Guillermo Espertino (Gez)

El 04/10/13 14:57, Matthew Smith escribió:

Hello

I am going to make an effort to get a layer multi-select going. In this
email I will outline what I hope to achieve and I am asking what would
be the most effective way to go about submitting a patch that could get
accepted.


IANAD ;) but wouldn't be better to make this in the gtk3-port branch?
I'm not sure if it's worth to work on anything related to widgets using 
gtk2, considering that the port to gtk3 is planned for the next release 
after 2.10.


Gez.
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Re: [Gimp-developer] layer multi-select

2013-10-04 Thread Michael Natterer

On 10/04/2013 09:01 PM, Guillermo Espertino (Gez) wrote:

El 04/10/13 14:57, Matthew Smith escribió:

Hello

I am going to make an effort to get a layer multi-select going. In this
email I will outline what I hope to achieve and I am asking what would
be the most effective way to go about submitting a patch that could get
accepted.


IANAD ;) but wouldn't be better to make this in the gtk3-port branch?
I'm not sure if it's worth to work on anything related to widgets using gtk2,
considering that the port to gtk3 is planned for the next release after 2.10.


Absolutely not, no new features in that branch or rebasing becomes very hard.

Why don't you join us on IRC to discuss the thing? It's hard to give advice
without knowing on what level to start.

--Mitch


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