Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
Why not combine both approaches? For example: - Left click on New-Layer Button: Create a layer of the same type the user added last time. - Right click on New-Layer Button: Show a popup and let the user choose which kind of layer he wants to create. The right click will be a short route for creating a layer of the same size as the image but with different background fills. Additionally an "advanced" menu entry could be added to the popup, showing the current dialog. This should make things more fluid. Greetings Tobias Oelgarte Once you have selected what kind of new layer you want, simply hitting the return (enter) afterward will give you a layer of the kind you choose last. As someone who uses GIMP for product photography, I often want a new white layer rather than a transparent one. My 2p. On 23 Mar 2015 17:18, "Joseph Bupe" wrote: The create a new layer button in the layers tab always pops up a dialog box. Like the bucket fill tool, I wonder how many use this pop-up dialog to determine whether the layer should be bg, fg colour filled or transparent. IMO, the new layer button should just create a new transparent layer. The dialog window should be optional. Regards. Joseph ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
Am 25.03.2015 um 19:54 schrieb jEsuSdA 8): El 23/03/15 a las 18:49, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Joseph Bupe wrote: IMO, the new layer button should just create a new transparent layer. The dialog window should be optional. Or you can create a transparent layer once and Shift+click the button the next time. It's in the tooltip even :) Oh my god! I just discovered this awesome feature! (I will pay more attention to tooltips now) :D Thanks! I didn't notice this feature as well. Good to know. But since many of us missed it, could we say that the implementation of this feature sucks, because it is not obvious for the normal user? ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
26 марта 2015 г. 12:27 пользователь "Tobias Oelgarte" написал: > > Why not combine both approaches? For example: > - Left click on New-Layer Button: Create a layer of the same type the user added last time. Left-click on a button in a dialog is not just inconsistent with the rest of UI in GIMP, but also with the rest of apps out there. Personally, I see no harm in reversing the existing behavior, but I guess this is where some bigger picture wouldn't come amiss befor applying any changes. Alex ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
On 03/26/2015 09:29 AM, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: > I didn't notice this feature as well. Good to know. But since many of us > missed it, could we say that the implementation of this feature sucks, > because it is not obvious for the normal user? Whenever any change is done that is perceived as "for the normal user", many people step up and declare that "gimp users are advanced enough to know all about that and thus the change is not needed" :) -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
On 03/24/2015 06:53 AM, Joseph Bupe wrote: > I already know about the Shift + Click key combination. But, why can't we > do it the photoshop way? It's a straight forward thing to open a new layer > without pop-up. > > I also think certain usability issues in Gimp should be voted upon in order > to get a good idea of the majority experiences and use that to determine > what improvements are required. There's one feature request that asks for consistency: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=159832 TL;DR: Have Shift+Click bypass dialogs and use the last values at as many places as possible. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
Removing the dialogue, or moving it to shift-click would be fine, except for the fact that it will effectively hide the dialogue from new users. What about just keeping the dialogue the same (when you click the new layer button), and having the hot-key auto-repeat the last chosen layer settings from the dialogue. New users are not likely to take advantage of hotkeys right away, so it makes sense in that respect to keep the dialogue under the button-click. > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:50 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine < alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> 26 марта 2015 г. 12:27 пользователь "Tobias Oelgarte" написал: >> > >> > Why not combine both approaches? For example: >> > - Left click on New-Layer Button: Create a layer of the same type the >> user added last time. >> >> Left-click on a button in a dialog is not just inconsistent with the rest >> of UI in GIMP, but also with the rest of apps out there. >> >> Personally, I see no harm in reversing the existing behavior, but I guess >> this is where some bigger picture wouldn't come amiss befor applying any >> changes. >> >> Alex >> ___ >> gimp-developer-list mailing list >> List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org >> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list >> List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > > ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] Create New Layer Button
On 26/03/15 09:29, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: Am 25.03.2015 um 19:54 schrieb jEsuSdA 8): El 23/03/15 a las 18:49, Alexandre Prokoudine escribió: On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 4:16 PM, Joseph Bupe wrote: IMO, the new layer button should just create a new transparent layer. The dialog window should be optional. Or you can create a transparent layer once and Shift+click the button the next time. It's in the tooltip even :) Oh my god! I just discovered this awesome feature! (I will pay more attention to tooltips now) :D Thanks! I didn't notice this feature as well. Good to know. But since many of us missed it, could we say that the implementation of this feature sucks, because it is not obvious for the normal user? It was also not so obvious to some more advanced users :) let's face it, in a software with the breadth of Gimp, everyone is going to overlook some feature. And anyway you can't have all these clever little things jump in your face when you start using the application, that would be information overload. Better find/learn about them little by little when the need arises. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
