As long as people are putting their hands up, I never save in xcf and
would prefer a workflow that was open, edit, save in same format.

However, rather than try to change the core code to appease those with
a similar thought, I would like to know if it is possible to change
this behaviour with a plugin.
This way both sides are happy.

Is it possible to write a plugin that re-maps core shortcuts and
changes default menu layouts etc?


On 1 March 2016 at 11:00, C R <caj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds good to me. I'm more than capable of choosing the correct file
> extension(s) and settings for myself. I think it's beneficial to have those
> settings already intelligently defaulted to when saving. I believe it will
> save some clicking in most workflows. Also good that it can be turned on
> and off in settings. I'd keep the warning about not having saved an .xcf
> file of the current doc when closing if there is indeed data to be lost.
> That will have the same effect as the current [Sorry, you can't Save to a
> jpeg, please use export instead] warning screen. When I type a file
> extension, GIMP knows what I want to happen. It should do it dutifully,
> then warn me at a later time that I should save my project construction
> file before closing it.
>
> +1 from me.
>
> -C
>
> On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 2:52 PM, Simone Karin Lehmann <sim...@lisanet.de>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> > Am 01.03.2016 um 15:05 schrieb C R <caj...@gmail.com>:
>> >
>> > If Save intelligently determines the file format that is most likely to
>> be
>> > used to save, Export should not be necessary. Just "Save" and "Save As"
>> > would suffice.
>> >
>> That's nearly exactly what I did with my patched version on
>> http://gimp.lisanet.de
>> I even made this a configurable option in the Preferences dialog.
>> So, if one is interested, have a look at my patches.
>>
>> > We could use the "multi layer" & "layer outside layer boundaries"
>>
>> I'm currently testing only for 'multiple layers' but it's quite easy to
>> add other tests.
>>
>> > convention to suggest that the user save to xcf, as normal to preserve
>> what
>> > they are seeing in the editor. The workflow would just involve flattening
>> > the image (which also gets rid of alpha) first before saving to make the
>> > Save default to the imported file format as a save suggestion. This has
>> the
>> > advantage of being intuitive and changeable merely by typing the required
>> > file extension. For my various workflows, 99 times out of 100, it would
>> not
>> > be necessary to change anything.
>>
>> That was the reason why I did it. And I got a lot of positive feedback
>> from users of my package.
>>
>> >
>> > I'd be lying if I said the current export convention didn't trip me up
>> > occasionally. It's been 6 years since I switched completely from
>> Photoshop,
>> > so in my case, it's not really blamable on convention anylonger. :)
>> >
>> > My 2p.
>> >
>> > -C
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 1 Mar 2016 8:43 am, "Tobias Ellinghaus" <h...@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Am Montag, 29. Februar 2016, 23:57:10 schrieb C R:
>> >>>> That would be terrible. Users not understanding the concept would
>> >> suddenly
>> >>>> be
>> >>>> facing images where they can just save to JPEG while others can't, but
>> >> PNG
>> >>>> is
>> >>>> still enabled (because they somehow added an alpha channel), and even
>> >>>> other
>> >>>> images support XCF only (maybe because the layer is bigger than the
>> >>>> image).
>> >>
>> >> (I used "just" in the sense of "without any further actions" and not
>> >> "only".)
>> >>
>> >>> No, that's not what I'm suggesting. If you import a jpeg for example,
>> do
>> >>> your editing, and end up with an alpha channel somehow, the save could
>> >>> still default to the .jpg (the jpeg save dialogue could display a
>> warning
>> >>> that transparency will be lost). That does not prevent the user from
>> >>> requesting a .png (by specifying that extension). It also does not
>> >> prevent
>> >>> the user saving as an xcf either for that matter.
>> >>>
>> >>> When closing the file, if the file is not saved as an xcf, and there is
>> >>> extra data to be lost, well, the warning about it is there anyway.
>> >>
>> >> But that would mean to just go back to the status quo ante, i.e., revert
>> >> the
>> >> save/export dichotomy and bring back saving to arbitrary formats.
>> >>
>> >> [...]
>> >>
>> >>> My 2p.
>> >>> -C
>> >>
>> >> Tobias
>> >>
>> >> [...]
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