Re: [Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.10.0-RC1 released

[Elle Stone]

On 03/26/2018 08:02 PM, Michael Natterer wrote:


There is also a release announcement onwww.gimp.org
with screenshots of new features:

https://gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-rc1-released/


At least on my computer, above link leads to 404 page.

This link works:

https://www.gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-0-rc1-released/

Oh, and yeah! 2.10 release candidate!

Best,
Elle
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Participation at Apple Developer Program

[Jehan Pagès]

Hi!

On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 6:08 PM, Ofnuts  wrote:

> On 03/26/18 00:45, alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've invited you to fill out the following form:
>> Participation at Apple Developer Program
>>
>> To fill it out, visit:
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdRepYcE1dLD0342FaV
>> GenU0Nr519SyK-MYzdGylmNXYq5rUQ/viewform?c=0&
>> amp;w=1usp=mail_form_link
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Wed like to know opinions of all developers and contributors of
>> GIMP, but not everyone is on IRC. Please vote :)
>>
>> P.S. Collecting emails in this form is disabled. Its safe to vote.
>>
>> Alex
>>
>
> Did we try to get in touch with Apple developer relations and see if they
> would give us a rebate or even complete waive the fee? That would be good
> PR for them...
>
>
For the record, I did try to get in touch with Apple some time ago (may
have been a year ago, or more, or less, I don't remember), and I didn't get
any answer.
Or maybe I had an answer to a first email who told me to send an email to
another address, but I didn't get an answer from this second contact. Or
something like that, I can't remember exactly.

Bottom line: they don't care, and they didn't answer.

I feel that anyone who believes that Apple would even care about us is
misled. What are we compared to Apple? Nothing. Seriously what is the PR
for them here?
Now I'm happy to be wrong. Maybe I wrote to the wrong contacts (I don't
know anyone from the "inside", and simply tried to get through the official
contact media). Maybe they would sponsor. Maybe they would even donate more
as João believes possible. I don't believe so, but I may just be
pessimistic.

As for answering, I think I will just vote "I don't care".

But really for me, this is hiding the real issue: we have barely no macOS
developers. We have mostly a single dev caring for macOS, but his time is
very limited (which is not a problem, everyone has one's priority and he
does already a lot). For instance, 10 days ago, I made some changes to
macOS code, hoping for a macOS developer or one of third party packagers to
test the change. Nothing happened until today, just before the release (as
expected, things needed to be fixed).
So it looks a bit funny to me to be discussing how to better package for an
OS when we have nearly none to improve things for this said OS.

What I would love is for people who wants GIMP on macOS to actually *care*
for their OS (not "care" by *saying* "I care" but by actual action, i.e.
the real meaning of "caring"). If we had a few developers fixing regularly
GIMP for macOS, improving things, etc. then these people would want to get
a proper signed package for this platform, I'd be happy for us to have an
official account, even if I completely agree with Mitch that it is really
garbage that we have to pay for real good and clean Free Software; this is
shameful from this company. Yet if we have actual people giving of their
time, and really showing their care, I'd still say It would make sense.

But right now, we are discussing paying to distribute a version of GIMP
which is barely kept alive. This is a bit doing things in the wrong order
IMO.

Jehan

P.S.: most of what I said can be said for the Windows build too. Well
actually we seem to have slightly more love for this build, yet barely.
Only GIMP on GNU/Linux (and *BSD seems to have people watching closely too)
is actually very well maintained with a huge flow of fixes and improvements.



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[Gimp-developer] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.10.0-RC1 released

[Michael Natterer]

Hi,

we're getting closer to releasing 2.10!

We just released the first release candidate on the way
to the final GIMP 2.10.0 release.

This is (still!) an unstable development release and might
crash or do whatever. If you try it for work, please save
your images more often.

But please use it and report bugs, it's actually usable :)

For a complete list of changes since 2.9.8 please see the
"Changes" section below.

There is also a release announcement on www.gimp.org
with screenshots of new features:

https://gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-rc1-released/

Happy GIMPing,
--Mitch


Download


  GIMP 2.10.0-RC1 is available from:

  https://download.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.10/

  and from the mirrors listed at:

  https://www.gimp.org/downloads/devel/#mirrors

  The checksum of the tarball is:

  e8892481e70c4ee3c204b6aa484f4eba  gimp-2.10.0-RC1.tar.bz2


Overview of Changes from GIMP 2.9.8 to GIMP 2.10 RC1


Core:

  - New dashboard dockable: shows the current GEGL cache and swap sizes
and CPU usage and active time, and their recent history. It has
options to control the update rate and history duration of the
data, and an option to warn (by raising/blinking the dialog) when
the swap size approaches its limit.
  - Make the selection boundary detection the same as 2.8.
  - The environment variable GIMP_DEBUG can now be set to "list-all" to
display available debug domains. Non-recognized flags will also
trigger the debug flag list output.
  - Improve migration from 2.8 to 2.10 by recursively migrating
configuration files (up to 5 levels, to protect from recursive
symbolic links).
  - Mark legacy plug-ins and scripts in menus.
  - Enable "save-tool-options" and "save-device-status" by default,
it's the expected behavior these days.
  - GIMP doesn't warn any more for unknown darktable XMP metadata.
We now register the corresponding namespace.
  - Adding settings for metadata export handling in "Image Import &
Export" page of Preferences. By default, the settings are checked,
but you can uncheck them (in particular since metadata can often
contain a lot of sensitive information).
  - Splash image now scaled down to maximum 1/2 of the screen area. 
This will allow to ship a big splash image which will be visible   
 on all type of screens, whichever low or high resolution.
Vector splash images are scaled both up or down to have them 
always  at ideal size.
  - Brightness-Contrast, Curves, Levels and Threshold are now available
in "Repeat last" history.
  - Improve action history to not show newly excluded actions (which
were already in our history from before the exclusion).
  - Use GEGL for transform-tools preview, allowing faster and more
accurate previews.
  - Re-arrange color models in the Color dock (WIP).
  - New debug tool and infrastructure to handle WARNING and CRITICAL
errors, as well as fatal errors (crashes), raising a pop-up with
all version information on GIMP and its main dependencies, as well
as the error message and backtraces, and encouraging people to  
make bug reports.
  - Support layer masks on layer groups.
  - GIMP now attempts to backup unsaved images when it crashes. Then at
next startup, it will suggest to recover the salvaged images. Image
recovery is not 100% guaranteed.
  - New gimp_spawn_async() function uses vfork() to help avoid hanging
during a fork process, currently used for plug-ins.
  - Dock color picker is now color-managed on macOS.

Libgimp:

   - New gimp_export_exif(), gimp_export_xmp() and gimp_export_iptc()
 functions returning the creator choice regarding default handling
 for metadata export (as set in the Preferences).
   - GIMP Protocol version incremented.
   - New gimp_get_pdb_status() to return the status of the last PDB
 call. This is needed for plug-ins which depend on other plug-ins'
 procedures. If for instance, a second-level plug-in is interrupted
 interactively, we don't want to process this as an error but as a
 cancellation.
   - New gimp_stack_trace_available(), gimp_stack_trace_print() and
 gimp_stack_trace_query() for debugging.
   - Use gegl:distance-transform in gimp_edit_blend() implementation
 making it much faster for all GRADIENT_SHAPEBURST_* gradient 
 types. Legacy gimp:shapeburst operation has been deleted.
   - New gimp_context_get_distance_metric() and
 gimp_context_set_distance_metric() for distance metric used in
 gimp_edit_blend() (and future usage).

GUI and Usability:

  - New icons: "gimp-attach", "gimp-color-space-linear",
"gimp-color-space-perceptual", "gimp-color-temperature",
"gimp-dashboard", "gimp-detach", "gimp-tool-desaturate",
"gimp-tool-exposure", "gimp-tool-shadows-highlights".
  - Switching between linear and perceptual (gamma-corrected) spaces
in the Histogram dialog is easier now: two 

Re: [Gimp-developer] Participation at Apple Developer Program

[Joao S. O. Bueno]

I voted yes -

But I also think we could ask Apple for a direct sponsorship for the
project  (obviously, not limited to this amount - maybe 100 times as
much is a reasonable value,
given the value made available gratis for all Mac OS users.)

Do we create another pool on that? Or can we figure out someone to
volunteer and contact them?

On 26 March 2018 at 13:08, Ofnuts  wrote:
> On 03/26/18 00:45, alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> I've invited you to fill out the following form:
>> Participation at Apple Developer Program
>>
>> To fill it out, visit:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdRepYcE1dLD0342FaVGenU0Nr519SyK-MYzdGylmNXYq5rUQ/viewform?c=0w=1usp=mail_form_link
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Wed like to know opinions of all developers and contributors of GIMP,
>> but not everyone is on IRC. Please vote :)
>>
>> P.S. Collecting emails in this form is disabled. Its safe to vote.
>>
>> Alex
>
>
> Did we try to get in touch with Apple developer relations and see if they
> would give us a rebate or even complete waive the fee? That would be good PR
> for them...
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Participation at Apple Developer Program

[Ofnuts]

On 03/26/18 00:45, alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote:

I've invited you to fill out the following form:
Participation at Apple Developer Program

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Hi.

Wed like to know opinions of all developers and contributors of 
GIMP, but not everyone is on IRC. Please vote :)


P.S. Collecting emails in this form is disabled. Its safe to vote.

Alex 


Did we try to get in touch with Apple developer relations and see if 
they would give us a rebate or even complete waive the fee? That would 
be good PR for them...

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Participation at Apple Developer Program

[Mario Sottile - Marionetas Mey]

In life, to be inclusive, it's necessary and important to speak every 
language. Money is the language of Apple :-\...


I voted "yes".


Mario Mey
(linux-user & /apple-refuser/ ;-))

Marionetas Mey

Mario Sottile - Director
(011) 15.6283.1576
www.mariomey.com.ar
i...@mariomey.com.ar

El 25/03/18 a las 19:45, alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com escribió:

I've invited you to fill out the following form:
Participation at Apple Developer Program

To fill it out, visit:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdRepYcE1dLD0342FaVGenU0Nr519SyK-MYzdGylmNXYq5rUQ/viewform?c=0w=1usp=mail_form_link 



Hi.

Wed like to know opinions of all developers and contributors of 
GIMP, but not everyone is on IRC. Please vote :)


P.S. Collecting emails in this form is disabled. Its safe to vote.

Alex

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