Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Alexandre Prokoudine attacks on GIMP critics around the Web
Ryan Stark via gimp-developer-list (gimp-developer-list@gnome.org) wrote: > Ardour is poor and there were lots of DAWs being developed on Linux > (probably still are but I don't look into it any more). Paul at Ardour is > arrogant. It doesn't matter if he is funded. Since on these issues you apparently are the only arbiter on what determines the success (or not) of software I am going to stop considering your viewpoint, since something like an productive exchange seems impossible. I strongly suspect that we're not going to resolve your issues here and I doubt that your style of arguing will help in interesting developers in your issues. Speaking for me as a long-term-although-not-as-active-as-i- would-like-developer of GIMP I can attest that I certainly have no interest in pursuing this discussion. Feel free to stick to your opinion, feel free to put me in your "arrogant" camp and lets hope that at some point you'll succeed in finding your software ecosystem adjusted to your needs. Have a good time. Simon -- si...@budig.de http://simon.budig.de/ ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Alexandre Prokoudine attacks on GIMP critics around the Web
ср, 9 янв. 2019 г., 7:24 Ryan Stark efflux...@googlemail.com: > Ardour is poor and there were lots of DAWs being developed on Linux > (probably still are but I don't look into it any more). > How many is "lots"? 10? 20? 30? :))) Ardour (and one or two its dead forks), Ecasound, Protux/Traverso. That is pretty much it. Paul at Ardour is arrogant. > You keep making these unsubstantiated claims, but just like the original topicstarter, you'll find it to be a hard sell on this list. It doesn't matter if he is funded. That doesn't make Ardour a success in > terms of how it works. > Since he is funded by the community, it means Ardour is a success for its user base. And most of those people are on Windows, where they have a much wider choice of applications to run. If you install Reaper on Linux there is absolutely no comparison whatsoever > and Reaper can be run free or a small licence charge. Ardour tried to be > Protools. This is what not to do if you develop open source software. It > has to have something unique about it. > I guess you didn't pay much attention then. Back when Ardour started, unlimited tracks and buses, as well as anything-to-anything routing were unheard of. They can rightly claim that they have something better than what commercial > software provides. > Pretty much every Reddit thread on GIMP has people who say GIMP is better for them. They might have funny reasons to say so, but it's their opinion. You seem to be pretending that these people don't exist. I suggest you reconsider your existential statement. If you look at what they are doing in the Mypaint brush engine. It is also > unique. The new features in the brush engine can create results that are > amazing and unlike any other program yet the basic concept is quite simple. > Every unique feature of MyPaint's brush engine stops being unique for just MyPaint the moment it's out. Would you hazard a guess why? (Hint: see my previous email) However, the brush engine is painfully slow so what is the point. > You still haven't given us any details about that. So there will never be a method to simply draw individual straight lines on > the canvas without unnecessary tools appearing on the canvas? > I don't know how you arrive to these funny conclusions. I'm afraid, unless you begin substantiating any of your claims, I will have to bow out of this conversation. You are welcome to post your bug reports to the tracker. Alex ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-web] Alexandre Prokoudine attacks on GIMP critics around the Web
GIMP is better than Photoshop for my purposes. No, it's not trying to copy (which I think is the actual problem most people have with GIMP), and therefore does some things differently as a result, and the tools are not a one-to-one match (thankfully). It's also free, completely cross-platform, and does not have nearly the bloat that Photoshop has. It's also faster on older hardware than Photoshop is with a tablet, but maybe that's because GIMP doesn't require other bloated unfortunate operating systems like windows and MacOS to run, both of which have their own truly unfortunate set of restrictions. What you want for illustration work is Krita. You should definitey look more into it - It's a powerhouse of awesome features, which Photoshop users would envy if they knew about them. Sure, you will have to get used to an illustration workflow, but that's another reason why GIMP is seen as better for photoediting tasks - That's really where it shines. Disclaimer: I'm a career graphics and product designer, and after using Photoshop from ver 2.5 (1992) all the way up to CS3, I decided to see how much of my workflow I could switch to GIMP (mainly because of problems with Windows and MacOS). After some initial growing pains, and a lot of GIMP UI improvement over the years, I've been quite happily using GIMP every day for work on cheap and light-weight laptops that barely run Windows 10 (forget about also running Photoshop). GNU/Linux + GIMP allows me to do this. (and Blender, Inkscape, Krita, etc.) It seems people have no patience to learn new things or actually get involved in a development community as the one that revolves around GIMP, but these folks usually miss the point, and often the benefits of community developed software. -C On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:48 AM Ken Moffat via gimp-developer-list < gimp-developer-list@gnome.org> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 05:51:00AM +, Ryan Stark via > gimp-developer-list wrote: > > One question to ask is why are Procreate and Photoshop so popular with > > digital painters and Photoshop wasn't even originally designed for this? > > One major reason for this is the way the internal textures to the brushes > > are handled. Photoshop isn't even super fast for painting but this > feature > > gives lovely brush textures. Clip Paint Studio does this but it does it > in > > a crap way. > > > I will note in passing that top-posting on developer mailing lists > is generally regarded as bad form (on user lists it seems to be less > unacceptable, although still a PITA), and even gmail can be beaten > into shape for that. But these 'digital painters' will need to > speak up for themselves on either the -dev or -user lists before > anyone will pay attention. > > Meanwhile, the gimp developers have made vast progress in the last > year, for which I thank them (even if I don't agree with all their > decisions re importing raw photos ;) : there are few developers, and > they do not have infinite time to work on whatever interests them. > I will suggest that this thread is a distraction to them and will go > nowhere unless you are either willing to provide code, or to find > someone whom you can sponsor to produce the code. > > I hope I will speak for most people here when I say that I don't use > Photoshop and I had never heard of Procreate until you mentioned it. > As a user of libre software, to me they appear to be irrelevant. > > ĸen > -- > Take three of these a minute for four minutes. Don't take with > alcohol or you'll grow an extra head. > -- The Doctor > ___ > gimp-developer-list mailing list > List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org > List membership: > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list > List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list > ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
[Gimp-developer] Question on Plugins
Hello GIMP-dev-Team first of all I want to thank you for your brilliant work on the new GIMP 2.10. It has become a very nice replacement for 2.8 wich I really loved. Now I come to my questions: I'm using Xubuntu 18.04 LTS and unfortunately GIMP 2.10 didn't make it into the repositorey my guess is, it wasn't ready to to go the stable Linix at the time of featureclose in Ubuntu. So I'm using the flatpack-version. On this version, I can't install david batch prosessing or GAP. Is it just a problem with the flatpack or are these two plugins noch compatible with 2.10 yet. In that case, I would like to ask you, if there are any plans to make these two plugins compatible? I thank you very much for any answers. Anke Lange -- --- http://www.gimp-werkstatt.de http://www.kompozer-web.de http://www.kreativ-workshops.net ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
