Re: [Gimp-developer] Does it pay to be Open-Source?

2020-10-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2020-09-26 at 19:47 +, Anthony Beaulé via gimp-developer-
list wrote:
> 
> Question 1:
> What do I need to get started on making a project Open-Source? My
> guess is just my source code, a list of all the dependencies my
> program uses, and an account on a Git website (GitHub, or SourceForge
> are the two I know).

Yes, more or less, and make sure  it builds, and is distributed with an
open licence, and that it doesn't depend on  anything proprietary.

gitlab.com is another git site.

> 
> Question 2:
> Can I still control or direct the program after I've posted it on a
> Git website?

direct - yes. The more you try to exercise control, the less open it
will be, by definition.

> Question 3:
> How do you make money off of Free software, and can you live off of
> it?

GIMP has from the start been a volunteer project, in people's spare
time.

You need a business model. Some examples:

[1] use open source projects as a funnel to get other work, or to
enhance reputation. This tends to have limited success except in some
very niche areas - you have also to be solving some real needs with the
software.

[2] dual license, with a "pro" version that has more features. The free
version has to be usable as-is. This is probably the most effective,
but you need to take care to mantain people's trust - taking features
out of the free version and making htem paid will risk a hostile fork,
in which you lose control of the project.

There are many other possible strategies of course.

> Question 4:
> How can you get your program recognised? It's one thing to code a
> cool program, but if no one knows about it then it won't stand a
> chance. I'm guessing the best thing is just advertise it on social
> media like everything else nowadays.

Pretty much, and word of mouth from satisified users. In the beginning
it helps to have an SEO-friendly Web site.


Best,

Liam (slave ankh on IRC)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] no save/discard/cancel dialog after doing a gradient

2020-10-17 Thread Michael Schumacher


On 10/17/20 9:06 PM, Cristian Secară wrote:

> Yes, true.
>
> Although this somewhat makes sense, it seems not quite consistent (well, in 
> my opinion): if I initiate the gradient and then save the image without prior 
> pressing , then the saved image *does* contain the gradient applied.
>
> BTW, this applies the same to rotate, perspective, cage etc.

There have been specific changes to address the behavior on save and
export when a pending tool action is present - see e.g.

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/1202

and

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/1180

Getting a save/discard/cancel dialog depends on whether the image is
modified, which it likely isn't considered as such at this point.

You should probably file this as an issue at

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues


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[Gimp-developer] difference between previous & skip back / next & skip forward (translation related)

2020-10-17 Thread Cristian Secară
I have these strings:

#: ../app/actions/context-actions.c:109
msgctxt "context-action"
msgid "Foreground: Use Previous Palette Color"

#: ../app/actions/context-actions.c:113
msgctxt "context-action"
msgid "Foreground: Use Next Palette Color"

#: ../app/actions/context-actions.c:117
msgctxt "context-action"
msgid "Foreground: Skip Back Palette Color"

#: ../app/actions/context-actions.c:121
msgctxt "context-action"
msgid "Foreground: Skip Forward Palette Color"

Question: what is the difference between use previous and skip back ? (and the 
same question for the other)

I don't know where exactly to spot these strings (seems a tooltip).
Similar strings exists also for Background.

On the internet I found some vague reference on the skip back/forward concept, 
which does not seem to differentiate from previous/next either:
https://www.matthewcassinelli.com/actions/skip-back/
https://www.matthewcassinelli.com/actions/skip-forward/

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-developer] no save/discard/cancel dialog after doing a gradient

2020-10-17 Thread Cristian Secară
În data de Sat, 17 Oct 2020 14:09:23 -0400, Christopher Curtis a scris:

> > Open GIMP, create whatever new image (say, some banner), activate
> > the gradient tool, apply some random gradient.
> >
> > By closing the image window or GIMP itself, the image disappears
> > without asking anything. [...]
> 
> I can partially-replicate this: If I use the gradient tool but do not
> "commit" the gradient, GIMP will close without prompting. If I hit
>  to complete the gradient I am prompted when closing the
> window.

Yes, true.

Although this somewhat makes sense, it seems not quite consistent (well, in my 
opinion): if I initiate the gradient and then save the image without prior 
pressing , then the saved image *does* contain the gradient applied.

BTW, this applies the same to rotate, perspective, cage etc.

Thanks for the observation.

Cristi

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug

2020-10-17 Thread Michael Schumacher
On 10/17/20 8:27 AM, Albert Einstein via gimp-developer-list wrote:

> Dear Developers,

Hi Albert,

> I have noticed a bug on the iMac version:
>
> When I am opening a pdf file, and select 300dpi resolution, then, when I go 
> to Scale Image, I see that the resolution has changed to 72dpi, but the 
> overall size in pixels remains the same.
>
> Then, if I export this file it is converted into a massive file (in pixels) 
> to compensate the drop of resolution. I do not have this problem with the PC 
> version.
>

> Could you please look into it and fix it?

this is the following issue:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/-/issues/4194

Ironically, this was caused by a change done to prevent the current
default value of 300 ppi from unconditionally overwriting any value an
imported image might specify instead.

It is fixed as of 2.10.16, but unfortunately we currently do not have
anyone who can build the macOS packages.


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Re: [Gimp-developer] no save/discard/cancel dialog after doing a gradient

2020-10-17 Thread Christopher Curtis via gimp-developer-list
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 11:37 PM Cristian Secară  wrote:

> Open GIMP, create whatever new image (say, some banner), activate the
> gradient tool, apply some random gradient.
>
> By closing the image window or GIMP itself, the image disappears without
> asking anything. I think this happens the same when opening an existing
> image and just do a gradient on it.
>

I can partially-replicate this: If I use the gradient tool but do not
"commit" the gradient, GIMP will close without prompting. If I hit 
to complete the gradient I am prompted when closing the window.

Version 2.10.18, Linux Ubuntu.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Bug

2020-10-17 Thread Christopher Curtis via gimp-developer-list
You are using a newer version on the PC than you are on the Mac.

Can you install a newer Mac version? It seems you may need to use Macports,
Homebrew, or Fink.
https://www.gimp.org/downloads/

I don't see anything obvious in the Changelogs, but if that doesn't work,
try version 2.10.14 on the PC and see if it behaves the same way. If it
does then the new version has already fixed the problem.

Chris


On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 6:22 AM Albert Einstein via gimp-developer-list <
gimp-developer-list@gnome.org> wrote:

> Dear Developers,
>
>
>
> I am using gimp since a long time, and I am loving it!
>
> You’ve done a fantastic job with it! Thank you!
>
>
>
> Currently I am using it on my iMac (v2.10.14) and my PC (v2.10.22).
>
>
>
> I have noticed a bug on the iMac version:
>
> When I am opening a pdf file, and select 300dpi resolution, then, when I
> go to Scale Image, I see that the resolution has changed to 72dpi, but the
> overall size in pixels remains the same.
>
> Then, if I export this file it is converted into a massive file (in
> pixels) to compensate the drop of resolution. I do not have this problem
> with the PC version.
>
>
>
> Could you please look into it and fix it?
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Albert Einstein
>
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[Gimp-developer] Does it pay to be Open-Source?

2020-10-17 Thread Anthony Beaulé via gimp-developer-list
Hello GIMP developers,

One of the things I've been enjoying is trying to use less and less proprietary 
software, and I've been thinking of becoming a developer for quite some time 
now.

I really love the passion and effort that's put in these projects, yours 
included, and I enjoy using them, but I can't say the same about creating my 
own Open-Source software; at least financially.

I want to ask you people out of curiosity because this project has existed for 
almost 25 years, and still going strong! Thus, I assume that you developers 
would have a lot of experience working with at least this Open-Source project.

So here goes:
Question 1:
What do I need to get started on making a project Open-Source? My guess is just 
my source code, a list of all the dependencies my program uses, and an account 
on a Git website (GitHub, or SourceForge are the two I know).

Question 2:
Can I still control or direct the program after I've posted it on a Git 
website? I don't mind other using my code for other projects, as long as I'm 
credited somewhere. I also don't mind it when people point-out flaws in my 
programs either, I or my team (if I have one) just want to be the one to fix it.

Question 3:
How do you make money off of Free software, and can you live off of it? I'm 
also wondering how money is split in large groups like yours. As much as I'd 
like to code Open-Source Software, I can't do it for free all the time as I'm 
on a tight budget.

Question 4:
How can you get your program recognised? It's one thing to code a cool program, 
but if no one knows about it then it won't stand a chance. I'm guessing the 
best thing is just advertise it on social media like everything else nowadays.


In conclusion, I'd love to be more educated in this topic as being Open-Source 
is something that I find beautiful in a way, as even if a project withers it's 
truly never dead and can bloom again in someone else's project. I'd also love 
to make Open-Source projects, but I fear that it may be a waste of time 
financially.

I'd love to hear from you.
~Anthony.B
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[Gimp-developer] Bug

2020-10-17 Thread Albert Einstein via gimp-developer-list
Dear Developers,

 

I am using gimp since a long time, and I am loving it!

You’ve done a fantastic job with it! Thank you!

 

Currently I am using it on my iMac (v2.10.14) and my PC (v2.10.22).

 

I have noticed a bug on the iMac version:

When I am opening a pdf file, and select 300dpi resolution, then, when I go to 
Scale Image, I see that the resolution has changed to 72dpi, but the overall 
size in pixels remains the same.

Then, if I export this file it is converted into a massive file (in pixels) to 
compensate the drop of resolution. I do not have this problem with the PC 
version.

 

Could you please look into it and fix it?

 

Thank you,

Albert Einstein

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