[Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
Hi everyone, this is my first post to this list. I've hunted all over the internet, but can't find any way to do what I need. My question is, is there a way to prevent GIMP from reading system fonts, and to only read fonts from it's own folder? Explanation: I do a lot of flyer work that involves fonts. I have dozens if not hundreds of fonts installed for this. I use an obscure plugin called GIMP Font Manager by Sean Bogie (modifed by MareroQ) to manage them, and it works great. My problem is that no matter what options I use in the Font Manager, system fonts are *always* shown. I've tried deleting the bulk of them that aren't needed for system display, but even after that enough of them are persistent that it makes my font tab overrun with irrelevant fonts. Thanks in advance for any knowledge! ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 23:35 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: > > My question is, is there a way to prevent GIMP from reading system > fonts, and to only read fonts from it's own folder? Which Linux distribution are you using? Or, what operating system? Which GIMP version exactly? > My problem is that no matter what options I use in the Font Manager, > system fonts are *always* shown. On Linux at least you can a fonts.conf file in your gimp data dir or fonts folder that excludes specific fonts. This probably also works on MacOS and Windows but i don't know for sure. In other words exactly how best to do this may depend on your operating system and in some cases, where you downloaded gimp from (i.e. which exact build). slave ankh / Liam -- Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read. Click here to have the slave chained up overnight. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
On 06/30/18 02:24, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 23:35 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: My question is, is there a way to prevent GIMP from reading system fonts, and to only read fonts from it's own folder? Which Linux distribution are you using? Or, what operating system? Which GIMP version exactly? My problem is that no matter what options I use in the Font Manager, system fonts are *always* shown. On Linux at least you can a fonts.conf file in your gimp data dir or fonts folder that excludes specific fonts. This probably also works on MacOS and Windows but i don't know for sure. In other words exactly how best to do this may depend on your operating system and in some cases, where you downloaded gimp from (i.e. which exact build). AFAIK the font.conf also works on Windows, but its exact location eludes me. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
Thanks for this! The Linux in question is Debian. Your solution sounds painstaking but functional. Can I get a link to an appropriate example of a fonts.conf that does this? I understand it needs to be tailored to my specific system's fonts. I just need to know the syntax. Thanks again! On 2018-06-30 00:24, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Fri, 2018-06-29 at 23:35 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: My question is, is there a way to prevent GIMP from reading system fonts, and to only read fonts from it's own folder? Which Linux distribution are you using? Or, what operating system? Which GIMP version exactly? My problem is that no matter what options I use in the Font Manager, system fonts are *always* shown. On Linux at least you can a fonts.conf file in your gimp data dir or fonts folder that excludes specific fonts. This probably also works on MacOS and Windows but i don't know for sure. In other words exactly how best to do this may depend on your operating system and in some cases, where you downloaded gimp from (i.e. which exact build). slave ankh / Liam ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 12:05 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: > Thanks for this! > > The Linux in question is Debian. > > Your solution sounds painstaking but functional. > > Can I get a link to an appropriate example of a fonts.conf that does > this? This will get rid of Helvetica: Helvetica You might also be able to do it based on the directory containing the font file, i'm not sure. Liam (slave ankh) -- Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read. Click here to have the slave beaten. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
I also played around with entering different file paths under the acceptfont property and the results were the same. It appears that having any acceptfont attribute at all negates the rejectfont property alltogether. On 2018-07-15 12:20, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: This is enormously helpful. Thanks so much. I never knew about global fonts.conf settings for fontconfig, and apparently like many things GIMP observes and prioritizes separate configs in its local folder. Studying fontconfig XML properties, I came up with: /usr/share/fonts/* Which successfully prevents GIMP from loading system fonts. Great! However, this somehow prevents fonts installed in the GIMP folder from loading as well. In other words, all the custom fonts are useless. I therefore tried to do: /usr/share/fonts/* /home/exampleuser/.gimp-2.8/fonts/* For some reason, this negated the rejectfont attribute entirely and all system fonts reappeared as if there were no fonts.conf file in the GIMP directory at all, as before. Thoughts? On 2018-07-15 04:49, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 12:05 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: Thanks for this! The Linux in question is Debian. Your solution sounds painstaking but functional. Can I get a link to an appropriate example of a fonts.conf that does this? This will get rid of Helvetica: Helvetica You might also be able to do it based on the directory containing the font file, i'm not sure. Liam (slave ankh) ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
This is enormously helpful. Thanks so much. I never knew about global fonts.conf settings for fontconfig, and apparently like many things GIMP observes and prioritizes separate configs in its local folder. Studying fontconfig XML properties, I came up with: /usr/share/fonts/* Which successfully prevents GIMP from loading system fonts. Great! However, this somehow prevents fonts installed in the GIMP folder from loading as well. In other words, all the custom fonts are useless. I therefore tried to do: /usr/share/fonts/* /home/exampleuser/.gimp-2.8/fonts/* For some reason, this negated the rejectfont attribute entirely and all system fonts reappeared as if there were no fonts.conf file in the GIMP directory at all, as before. Thoughts? On 2018-07-15 04:49, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sat, 2018-07-14 at 12:05 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: Thanks for this! The Linux in question is Debian. Your solution sounds painstaking but functional. Can I get a link to an appropriate example of a fonts.conf that does this? This will get rid of Helvetica: Helvetica You might also be able to do it based on the directory containing the font file, i'm not sure. Liam (slave ankh) ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: > > I therefore tried to do: > > > > > > > > > > > > You need two separate selectfont sections, one after the other. Also look for messages on the console when gimp starts (start gimp from the commandline in a terminal) An error in fonts.conf can break lots of stuff. Liam -- Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read. Click here to have the slave beaten. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
Hm. I don't think I needed . I was just getting the element wrong. Here's what works on my current system: /usr/share/fonts/* This empties all fonts except the ones in GIMP's own folder. An odd thing is that even with using font manager, when a font is selected through it and subsequently displayed in the fonts tab, it automatically adds defaults like "Monospace Italic" and Sans Bold Italic". This isn't a big deal, but any ideas on how to block those as well? I'm super happy about all this, thanks. Oh, and here's where I got the correct glob element from: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/font_configuration#Whitelisting_and_blacklisting_fonts On 2018-07-15 16:32, Liam R E Quin wrote: On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 12:20 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: I therefore tried to do: You need two separate selectfont sections, one after the other. Also look for messages on the console when gimp starts (start gimp from the commandline in a terminal) An error in fonts.conf can break lots of stuff. Liam ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] blocking fonts enumeration
On Sun, 2018-07-15 at 22:24 +, 1980_undergro...@insiberia.net wrote: > > An odd thing is that even with using font manager, when a font is > selected through it and subsequently displayed in the fonts tab, it > automatically adds defaults like "Monospace Italic" and Sans Bold > Italic". This isn't a big deal, but any ideas on how to block those > as well? i don't think you can. > I'm super happy about all this, thanks. i'm glad it worked out. Thanks to the link to the archlinux wiki ;age. slave ankh -- Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read. Click here to have the slave beaten. ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
