Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-21 Thread Kamilla Elliott
Thank you all for your input. Extremely helfpul. Restores my faith in Gimp.

Sorry--didn't mean to subscribe to a developer list. Newbie here.





 From: Chris Mohler 
To: Kamilla Elliott  
Cc: gimp-developer  
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file 
and distorts text
 
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kamilla Elliott
 wrote:
> But when I exported it to pdf, it was teeny tiny--about 2 inches by 1 inch
> instead of 11 x 6 inches.

As others have mentioned, check your print size.

If all else fails, export it as PNG or TIFF, create a new document in
Scribus, import your image, export as PDF.  Scribus has pretty robust
PDF output - I've sent quite a few PDFs to print with no issues.

Chris

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 2:59 PM, Kamilla Elliott
 wrote:
> But when I exported it to pdf, it was teeny tiny--about 2 inches by 1 inch
> instead of 11 x 6 inches.

As others have mentioned, check your print size.

If all else fails, export it as PNG or TIFF, create a new document in
Scribus, import your image, export as PDF.  Scribus has pretty robust
PDF output - I've sent quite a few PDFs to print with no issues.

Chris

PS - I now notice you are on the developer mailing list.  gimp-user is
probably a better option for future requests like these (gimp-devel is
more geared toward people hacking on GIMP).  No biggie though ;)
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Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Sat, 2012-11-17 at 12:59 -0800, Kamilla Elliott wrote:
> when I exported it to pdf, it was teeny tiny--about 2 inches by 1 inch

Check that "File->Print Size" is plausible. It might be that it's using
the size from one of the images you pasted.

Always work at either the final resolution or (much better if your
computer is up to at) twice that resolution. So if you want to end up
with 600dpi, ideally you'd work at 1200dpi in GIMP and resize as the
very last step, *after* saving as xcf.gz.

The reason for going double is that processing images tends to reduce
quality (it's like food!). The reason for starting at the target
resolution or higher is that image software can't invent extra detail
for higher resolution.

If you have performance problems, save your work often as .xcf
or .xcf.gz (same but smaller files).

When it comes to printing, depending on the platform, File->Page Setup
may or may not make a difference.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Burnie West

On 11/17/2012 12:59 PM, Kamilla Elliott wrote:
Thanks again for your response. Sorry to be unclear. I first made the xcf at 
100 ppi, importing photos and adding text; then when I had trouble exporting 
it to pdf (the photos were too blurry), I re-created it from scratch, setting 
it at 300ppi using Advanced Options under 'New File'. But when I exported it 
to pdf, it was teeny tiny--about 2 inches by 1 inch instead of 11 x 6 inches. 
So I couldn't see if it was high res, since I had to zoom to about 450% to see 
it, by which time it was blurry again. I'm trying a new document from scratch 
with very high res photos to see if that will help. Thanks again for helping 
me--your e-mail helped me make more progress than I managed to make all day.

I think you might be mixing up image resolution and print size.

Print size can be shown in inches (say 11.75 x 10.69) ormillimeters (say 298 x 
271).
Image resolution is in pixels per inch (say 72for square pixels) or pixels per 
mm (2.83 in this case).


The pdf image will normally print in theprint size specified; so when you 
changed the xcf to 300 from 100 ppi,
the print image reduced by a factor of three (so I think it would have printed 4 
x 2

rather than 2 x 1 - maybe you used 600 ppi?)

  -- Burnie
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Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Kamilla Elliott
Thanks again for your response. Sorry to be unclear. I first made the xcf at 
100 ppi, importing photos and adding text; then when I had trouble exporting it 
to pdf (the photos were too blurry), I re-created it from scratch, setting it 
at 300ppi using Advanced Options under 'New File'. But when I exported it to 
pdf, it was teeny tiny--about 2 inches by 1 inch instead of 11 x 6 inches. So I 
couldn't see if it was high res, since I had to zoom to about 450% to see it, 
by which time it was blurry again. I'm trying a new document from scratch with 
very high res photos to see if that will help. Thanks again for helping 
me--your e-mail helped me make more progress than I managed to make all day.






 From: Chris Mohler 
To: Kamilla Elliott ; gimp-developer 
 
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file 
and distorts text
 
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Kamilla Elliott
 wrote:
> Thank you so much for the speedy reply. That does improve the res and sorts
> out the font problems totally. It's still not printer ready--the photos,
> which are very high res when I import them, remain a bit too soft and
> blurry. I have the file at 100ppi--when I create one at 300ppi and recreate
> it, it becomes the size of a postage stamp so it's hard to see the res. on
> that one. I will keep plugging along. Thanks again.

I'm not sure I follow you, but you might be hitting an old and tricky
bug that sometimes causes problems when scaling.  You might try
resizing in steps - eg, scale it about 50% of the way then scale it to
the right size on the next pass.  It's been a while since I had to do
this - I don't remember if I had to do it in just 2 passes or more.

Chris

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Re: [Gimp-developer] [Gimp-user] Gimp pdf export turns high res xcf into low res file and distorts text

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Mohler
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Kamilla Elliott
 wrote:
> Thank you so much for the speedy reply. That does improve the res and sorts
> out the font problems totally. It's still not printer ready--the photos,
> which are very high res when I import them, remain a bit too soft and
> blurry. I have the file at 100ppi--when I create one at 300ppi and recreate
> it, it becomes the size of a postage stamp so it's hard to see the res. on
> that one. I will keep plugging along. Thanks again.

I'm not sure I follow you, but you might be hitting an old and tricky
bug that sometimes causes problems when scaling.  You might try
resizing in steps - eg, scale it about 50% of the way then scale it to
the right size on the next pass.  It's been a while since I had to do
this - I don't remember if I had to do it in just 2 passes or more.

Chris

PS - hit "reply all" to respond to the mailing list ;)
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