Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Joseph Bupe]

n 30 October 2014 14:41, Paka  wrote:

>
> * Joseph Bupe  [10-30-14 03:23]:
> > On 30 October 2014 02:39, Paka  wrote:
> > > * Joseph Bupe  [10-29-14 20:34]:
> > >
> > > > I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer
> > >
> > > er, "file exploder" ???  rather dolphin or krusader or ...
> > >
> > > > updated to allow multiple thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer
> > > > where I have to know the name of the file and click it to view it's
> > > > thumbnail.
> > >
> > > Why want somthing you already have?  This is how my system works unless
> > > the image is larger that my preview settings.
> > >
> > > > In Krita 2.8.2, images in a selected directory are displayed as
> > > thumbnails
> > > > immediately you navigate to that directory. So if I do not know the
> name
> > > of
> > > > a file I can choose it based on its content as seen from a thumbnail
> > > among
> > > > other thumbnails, than clicking each file through the list of files
> as in
> > > > GIMP.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this is a usability issue that can be resolved in the earliest
> > > > possible time.
> > >
> > > You are missing something ???
> >
> > Hi Patrick
> >
> > You wrote > This is how my system works unless the image is larger that
> my
> > preview settings.
>
> so change the preview setting, duh 
>
> > Exactly my point. This limitation does not seem to exist in Krita.
>
> but you are in control, change it.
>
> > You wrote >You are missing something ???
> >
> > YES I am.
> >
> > Apparently, Krita opens files using the standard open file dialogue of
> > the user's operating system.  IMHO, this is the way to go.
>
> And the operating system is chosen by ...   hint, you.
>
> > Did you even compare the Gimp's open file explorer with that of Krita?
> > If not I challenge you to do so and see for your self than to believe
> > they are the same.  See attachment if you can.
>
> On my system they are quite similar.  Attachments aren't allowed here.
>
> ps: Your quoting style is quite difficult besides answering questions
>   before they are asked and including sigs and other irrelevant data.
>   Some consideration is expected.  One would think a "computer
>   professional" as your sig indicates, would know better.  TOFU
> ps2: I cleaned it up for you.  :^(
>
>
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I am satisfied with the response given by Alex. Perhaps we wait for GTK+3
implementation.

Cheers.

Joseph
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Joseph Bupe]

I am now beginning to understand things here.

Maybe as Alex pointed out, we wait for GTK+3 port.

Thanx.

Joseph

On 30 October 2014 11:27, Boudewijn Rempt  wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>
>  30 окт. 2014 г. 3:32 пользователь "Joseph Bupe" 
>> написал:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi developers,
>>>
>>> I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer updated to allow multiple
>>> thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer where I have to know the name
>>> of the file and click it to view it's thumbnail.
>>>
>>
>> Joseph,
>>
>> As Michael pointed out, this isn't exactly GIMP's file explorer. So your
>> request, while understandable, is somewhat misplaced.
>>
>>
> Just a little background from the way Krita is wrestling with file
> dialogs... Qt supports using the platform file dialogs, actually using the
> GTK file dialog (not a rewritten look-alike) on Gnome, Unity or Mate, the
> OSX one on OSX, the Windows one on Windows, the KDE one on KDE, using two
> different api's. And a Qt one when Qt cannot figure out where the
> applicatiion is running.
>
> This means having eight different sets of bugs and missing features,
> ranging from weird hangs when the application has something on the
> clipboard and the GTK file dialog opens, to the OSX file dialog selecting
> the wrong file type in the type dropdown if there are file types with more
> than one standard extensions.
>
> We might have previews on some platforms, but we also have pain on most. I
> must have spent more than forty hours fighting those issues, for very
> little real gain. If I were a user, I'd use an application like gwenview or
> the platform equivalent on a second monitor to manage my images and D&D the
> images.
>
> Boudewijn
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Paka]

* Joseph Bupe  [10-30-14 03:23]:
> On 30 October 2014 02:39, Paka  wrote:
> > * Joseph Bupe  [10-29-14 20:34]:
> >
> > > I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer
> >
> > er, "file exploder" ???  rather dolphin or krusader or ...
> >
> > > updated to allow multiple thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer
> > > where I have to know the name of the file and click it to view it's
> > > thumbnail.
> >
> > Why want somthing you already have?  This is how my system works unless
> > the image is larger that my preview settings.
> >
> > > In Krita 2.8.2, images in a selected directory are displayed as
> > thumbnails
> > > immediately you navigate to that directory. So if I do not know the name
> > of
> > > a file I can choose it based on its content as seen from a thumbnail
> > among
> > > other thumbnails, than clicking each file through the list of files as in
> > > GIMP.
> > >
> > > I hope this is a usability issue that can be resolved in the earliest
> > > possible time.
> >
> > You are missing something ???
>
> Hi Patrick
> 
> You wrote > This is how my system works unless the image is larger that my
> preview settings.

so change the preview setting, duh 
 
> Exactly my point. This limitation does not seem to exist in Krita.

but you are in control, change it.
 
> You wrote >You are missing something ???
> 
> YES I am.
> 
> Apparently, Krita opens files using the standard open file dialogue of
> the user's operating system.  IMHO, this is the way to go.

And the operating system is chosen by ...   hint, you.
 
> Did you even compare the Gimp's open file explorer with that of Krita?
> If not I challenge you to do so and see for your self than to believe
> they are the same.  See attachment if you can.

On my system they are quite similar.  Attachments aren't allowed here.

ps: Your quoting style is quite difficult besides answering questions
  before they are asked and including sigs and other irrelevant data. 
  Some consideration is expected.  One would think a "computer
  professional" as your sig indicates, would know better.  TOFU
ps2: I cleaned it up for you.  :^(


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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Boudewijn Rempt]

On Thu, 30 Oct 2014, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:


30 окт. 2014 г. 3:32 пользователь "Joseph Bupe" 
написал:


Hi developers,

I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer updated to allow multiple
thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer where I have to know the name
of the file and click it to view it's thumbnail.


Joseph,

As Michael pointed out, this isn't exactly GIMP's file explorer. So your
request, while understandable, is somewhat misplaced.



Just a little background from the way Krita is wrestling with file 
dialogs... Qt supports using the platform file dialogs, actually using the 
GTK file dialog (not a rewritten look-alike) on Gnome, Unity or Mate, the

OSX one on OSX, the Windows one on Windows, the KDE one on KDE, using two
different api's. And a Qt one when Qt cannot figure out where the 
applicatiion is running.


This means having eight different sets of bugs and missing features, 
ranging from weird hangs when the application has something on the 
clipboard and the GTK file dialog opens, to the OSX file dialog selecting 
the wrong file type in the type dropdown if there are file types with more

than one standard extensions.

We might have previews on some platforms, but we also have pain on most. I 
must have spent more than forty hours fighting those issues, for very 
little real gain. If I were a user, I'd use an application like gwenview 
or the platform equivalent on a second monitor to manage my images and D&D 
the images.


Boudewijn
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

30 окт. 2014 г. 3:32 пользователь "Joseph Bupe" 
написал:
>
> Hi developers,
>
> I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer updated to allow multiple
> thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer where I have to know the name
> of the file and click it to view it's thumbnail.

Joseph,

As Michael pointed out, this isn't exactly GIMP's file explorer. So your
request, while understandable, is somewhat misplaced.

The requst for thumbnail view is out there for a while:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141154

So far nobody succeeded completing the code that was written, and even then
we'd have to complete the GTK+3 port first.

Alex
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Michael Schumacher]

On October 30, 2014 7:04:35 AM CET, Joseph Bupe  wrote:

>Did you even compare the Gimp's open file explorer with that of Krita?

I guess you're on different platforms. 

Personally, I prefer the current file dialogs over e.g. the Windows ones.

But ultimately, this mostly depends on what GTK+ offers or chooses there. 
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Joseph Bupe]

Hi Patrick

You wrote > This is how my system works unless the image is larger that my
preview settings.

Exactly my point. This limitation does not seem to exist in Krita.

You wrote >You are missing something ???

YES I am.

Apparently, Krita opens files using the standard open file dialogue of the
user's operating system. IMHO, this is the way to go.

Did you even compare the Gimp's open file explorer with that of Krita? If
not I challenge you to do so and see for your self than to believe they are
the same. See attachment if you can.




Joseph


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> * Joseph Bupe  [10-29-14 20:34]:
>
> > I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer
>
> er, "file exploder" ???  rather dolphin or krusader or ...
>
> > updated to allow multiple thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer
> > where I have to know the name of the file and click it to view it's
> > thumbnail.
>
> Why want somthing you already have?  This is how my system works unless
> the image is larger that my preview settings.
>
> > In Krita 2.8.2, images in a selected directory are displayed as
> thumbnails
> > immediately you navigate to that directory. So if I do not know the name
> of
> > a file I can choose it based on its content as seen from a thumbnail
> among
> > other thumbnails, than clicking each file through the list of files as in
> > GIMP.
> >
> > I hope this is a usability issue that can be resolved in the earliest
> > possible time.
>
> You are missing something ???
>
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Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP 2.8 / 2.9 File explorer

[Paka]

* Joseph Bupe  [10-29-14 20:34]:

> I would love to see the GIMP open file explorer 

er, "file exploder" ???  rather dolphin or krusader or ...

> updated to allow multiple thumbnail view; unlike the current explorer
> where I have to know the name of the file and click it to view it's
> thumbnail.

Why want somthing you already have?  This is how my system works unless
the image is larger that my preview settings.
 
> In Krita 2.8.2, images in a selected directory are displayed as thumbnails
> immediately you navigate to that directory. So if I do not know the name of
> a file I can choose it based on its content as seen from a thumbnail among
> other thumbnails, than clicking each file through the list of files as in
> GIMP.
> 
> I hope this is a usability issue that can be resolved in the earliest
> possible time.

You are missing something ???

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