Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Mon, 2012-04-02 at 15:47 -0300, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote:
[...]
> indeed - while those have lots os space for improvement, they rely on
> using guide, previusly placed  on the image, for knowing where to cut.

I'm not sure this is a bad thing. For sure you need to be able to save
the file, come back tomorrow, adjust the slices and redo. And the
position of the slice boundaries is sometimes part of the image design.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread radar . map35
Hello

yes, slicing tool has been wished for a while because it was a really needed 
tool the past ten years. It was made to help make a complete layout and then 
cut it into parts and produce resulting HTML+CSS+JS (rollovers aso).

I see 2 reasons why it is not actually  so essential :
1. Vectors are more and more used to  draw site templates
2. With future coming with HTML5+CSS3+SVG, there will be very fewer to be done 
in a program like gimp, because everyting will be css (shadow, round-corners, 
animations...)

IMO, Any slice tool development beginning now should take this future into 
account to make it usefull for the following years, and compliant with those 
new technologies.

pygmee
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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno
On 2 April 2012 15:21, Alexia Death  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM, gfxuser  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I might have overlooked something, but what's the difference to the already
>> existing Image-Map filter (see Filters/Web/Image-Map) and Slice dialog
>> (Filters/Web/Slice...)?
> Plugins cant have on canvas controls.

indeed - while those have lots os space for improvement, they rely on
using guide, previusly placed  on the image, for knowing where to cut.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread Alexia Death
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 8:48 PM, gfxuser  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I might have overlooked something, but what's the difference to the already
> existing Image-Map filter (see Filters/Web/Image-Map) and Slice dialog
> (Filters/Web/Slice...)?
Plugins cant have on canvas controls.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread gfxuser

Hi,

I might have overlooked something, but what's the difference to the 
already existing Image-Map filter (see Filters/Web/Image-Map) and Slice 
dialog (Filters/Web/Slice...)?
The first filter already has possibilities to make rectangular, circular 
or polygonal selections plus options for the URL or frame to jump to and 
Javascript event options.

The map itself can be saved, too.
Wouldn't that be a duplication of functionality? If not, maybe these 
already existing possibilities build a foundation for the "new slicing 
tool" and can partially be reused?


Greetings,

grafxuser



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-04-02 Thread peter sikking
noob7 wrote:

> Hey there!
> Iam interested in this year gsoc. I would like to take slicing tool idea 
> which I heard that its one of most requested features. I get the main conept 
> of this tool. Ive tested guillotine action and slice filter on compiled trunk 
> version. I found that slice filter still have some issues. On irc I was told 
> to talk to ,,guiguru" which is mitch? about gui for this tool. Do you have 
> any comments about slice tool ? I would love to hear some feedback.

this one has been brewing for a long time. Let's have look what is
minimally needed and then you can gauge if you are up for this:

let's call this tool ‘cutting mask’, because that what it is.
it is a glorious export function, so it should live in the File
menu. there needs to be a setup of the cutting mask and and
execution of the cutting mask (the mass export).

just to make this clear: in the UI the cutting mask has
nothing to do with the guides, is not a layer nor a channel
(which are saved selections, really). how you do it on the
_inside_, technically, is fully up to you, your mentor and mitch.

the cutting mask (let's say one per file, to keep it simple) is
a mask that consist of any number of rectangles (again, simple
and practical). these rectangles are vectors (can be changed for
ever) and can overlap. the size of the cutting mask is that of
the canvas (unless somebody protests).

when the setup of the cutting mask is invoked, the mask is drawn
over the canvas and rectangles can be added, deleted and edited.
setting the position and size of each rectangle is both interactive
on the mask and via numerical input. this can work a lot like the
rectangle selection tool does (I expect that code can be reused for
that). but: it is _not_ the rectangle tool does the actual editing.
it is the property of the mask setup mode that working with these
vector rectangles is highlighting one, dragging its handles or
changing its coordinate numbers.

also minimally needed in setup mode is that for each rectangle a
filename and type is specified by users. the mask setup is OK'ed
or cancelled and the mask projection ‘folds away.’

executing the cutting mask means users setting a folder name and
location (via a file dialog). this folder will be created and all
the files end up in it. overwrite existing folder if users wish to do so.
users set in the same dialog whether to cut the current layer or
a merge of all visible layers.

the export settings for each file type that is in the mask
(png, jpeg, tiff, the list goes on) must be set for each
execution of the mask. I propose to keep things simple and
do one setting dialog for each file type present on the mask
and apply to all files of that type in the cut. file name
clashes should be dealt with automatically.

I think this is a nice beginning of a tool like this.
yes, a lot more advanced feature could be added, but this
is the core of it.

--ps

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man + machine interface works

http://blog.mmiworks.net: on interaction architecture



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Re: [Gimp-developer] Gsoc - Slicing Tool

2012-03-31 Thread gfxuser

Am 31.03.12 09:49, schrieb noob7:

Hey there!
Iam interested in this year gsoc. I would like to take slicing tool 
idea which I heard that its one of most requested features. I get the 
main conept of this tool. Ive tested guillotine action and slice 
filter on compiled trunk version. I found that slice filter still have 
some issues. On irc I was told to talk to ,,guiguru" which is mitch? 
about gui for this tool. Do you have any comments about slice tool ? I 
would love to hear some feedback.



Hi,

as far as I know, 'guiguru' is Peter Sikking, isn't he? He is the 
interaction architect in the GIMP project.


Greetings,
grafxuser


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