Re: [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?
On 05/30/2015 03:46 AM, Sam Gleske wrote: In fact, the direct download link for Windows is a tiny this link at the end of the description paragraph underneath the GIANT torrent link. As you can see in the thread I linked to, this is going to change - with both links to be more prominent than they have been before. There are plenty of trusted binary hosting services for open source projects. One not need look far for alternate hosting if the worry is GIMP infrastructure overload. I'm actually not sure if it ever was a real overload, could also jut be that the web server config we have limited the connections. Nowadays, this does not seem to be an issue - probably due to the fact that there are tons of torrent seeders for the current downloads, and many people use it. Changing to the current server was not entirely voluntary - we had our previous one failing, and now GNOME generously provides a virtual machine in one of the data centers the use themselves. Personally I feel the Download button on the front page should actually download the software (detecting your browser language and platform). For that to work, it will have to be easy to switch between different platforms. Regardless of the way in which the downloads are presented. I do think the downloads page is pretty busy. My friends need someone like me to help them sort it out when they're getting their copy of GIMP. I feel that flow is in need of improvement. I guess the new layout will make it easier for them. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?
Hi, I'm not a GIMP dev or involved in any way, but a quick comment from me. One obvious thing: The easier you make it to find the legitimate / real download the less likely people will look for it elsewhere. Now let's assume I'm a windows user, not super skilled, but I heared that GIMP is a good graphics tool and I want to get it. Right now if I go to the gimp webpage I see a big download button. That looks good. However then it gets murky. I get to a download page that will offer me a bunch of stuff I don't need and don't understand. I have to scroll down quite a bit to read this: Nightly builds for Windows are available at darkrefraction.com. This is unstable software, please use it at your own risk. Ok, I as a poor user read: This is something I don't understand (a nightly build) and it's dangerous, because they talk about risk. There is no offer of a windows download that doesn't sound scary. No wonder people will go elsewhere to get the GIMP. Make it easier and non-scary to find the right download and you'll take away downloads from the badware-bundlers. cu, -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgp60MlNLM5ej.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?
On 05/29/2015 07:51 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: Hi, I'm not a GIMP dev or involved in any way, but a quick comment from me. One obvious thing: The easier you make it to find the legitimate / real download the less likely people will look for it elsewhere. Now let's assume I'm a windows user, not super skilled, but I heared that GIMP is a good graphics tool and I want to get it. Right now if I go to the gimp webpage I see a big download button. That looks good. However then it gets murky. I get to a download page that will offer me a bunch of stuff I don't need and don't understand. See https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00034.html (the mail thread gets constructive beyond the first post). In this thread, there is work on proposal for the downloads pages that makes both the torrent link and the direct link (to e.g. the Windows .exe file) more obvious. The reason for emphasizing the torrent file over the direct link was to spread knowledge of BitTorrent and put less load on our server, but having both as equals should work just as fine. There has been another proposal on our #gimp IRC channel to make the platform selection available again, I'm currently checking the status of that. -- Regards, Michael GPG: 96A8 B38A 728A 577D 724D 60E5 F855 53EC B36D 4CDD ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
Re: [Gimp-developer] What next after sourceforge.net?
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Michael Schumacher schum...@gmx.de wrote: See https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list/2015-May/msg00034.html (the mail thread gets constructive beyond the first post). In this thread, there is work on proposal for the downloads pages that makes both the torrent link and the direct link (to e.g. the Windows .exe file) more obvious. The reason for emphasizing the torrent file over the direct link was to spread knowledge of BitTorrent and put less load on our server, but having both as equals should work just as fine. There has been another proposal on our #gimp IRC channel to make the platform selection available again, I'm currently checking the status of that. Yeah... most non-technical people haven't heart of torrents (except for maybe the ones downloading illegal software, movies, and music). The largest link for Windows on that page is a misleading .torrent link (as a normal person would expect to download the software to install it rather than download a file that requires them to install other software to install it). In fact, the direct download link for Windows is a tiny this link at the end of the description paragraph underneath the GIANT torrent link. There are plenty of trusted binary hosting services for open source projects. One not need look far for alternate hosting if the worry is GIMP infrastructure overload. Personally I feel the Download button on the front page should actually download the software (detecting your browser language and platform). Then perhaps make the link on the right called Downloads or More Downloads where users can find the comprehensive list of items to download to their heart's content. Regardless of the way in which the downloads are presented. I do think the downloads page is pretty busy. My friends need someone like me to help them sort it out when they're getting their copy of GIMP. I feel that flow is in need of improvement. SAM -- I prefer to encrypt my email GPG FINGERPRINT 4096 KEY 8D8B F0E2 42D8 A068 572E BF3C E8F7 3234 7257 E65F https://keybase.io/samrocketman Learn how to encrypt your email with the Email Self Defense guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ ___ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address:gimp-developer-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-developer-list
