Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
On 2016-09-28 16:26, Joseph Bupe wrote: On 28 September 2016 at 15:28, Jehanwrote: Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually (well you could stretch the concept, I guess, but y first idea would not put these on the same conceptual level). So no, I don't think so. Jehan Well, I thought this would be possible for GIMP: Yeah actually the more I think about it, the more it looks like not too bad an idea indeed. That would make paths being actual editable objects (which can be made visible or not, etc.) more obvious and less a "hidden feature". Jehan https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index.php?/topic/25471-vector-layers/ [1] Links: -- [1] https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index.php?/topic/25471-vector-layers/ -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
On 2016-09-28 15:44, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Jehan wrote: Also, shouldn't we just have the Paths Layers within the Layers dialog, then provide "Layer type" option to choose what type of layer to add through that pop-up dialog. Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually This is extremely arguable :) Because vector layers, you know :) Yeah I just made a second email where I came back on this sentence. Simply the way we currently handle them in GIMP is like one single vector object. A paths layer would mean IMO more like a way to group several separate vector objects (which you could stroke, select and move individually). Also they are always above the pixels right now. Ordering a paths under a "pixel layer" means nothing currently (though it easily could of course). It's just not the same conceptual level in our code. But yeah I agree so you can erase my previous sentence: these could be put on the same level if we put the effort into it. Jehan Alex ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
On 28 September 2016 at 15:28, Jehanwrote: > > Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually (well you could > stretch the concept, I guess, but y first idea would not put these on the > same conceptual level). So no, I don't think so. > > Jehan > Well, I thought this would be possible for GIMP: https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index.php?/topic/25471-vector-layers/ ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 4:28 PM, Jehan wrote: >> Also, shouldn't we just have the Paths Layers within the Layers >> dialog, then provide "Layer type" option to choose what type of layer >> to add through that pop-up dialog. > > > Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually This is extremely arguable :) Because vector layers, you know :) Alex ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
On 2016-09-28 15:28, Jehan wrote: Hi, On 2016-09-28 15:12, Joseph Bupe wrote: Also, shouldn't we just have the Paths Layers within the Layers dialog, then provide "Layer type" option to choose what type of layer to add through that pop-up dialog. Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually (well you could stretch the concept, I guess, but y first idea would not put these on the same conceptual level). So no, I don't think so. This said, playing with it, I could see how you could see it as a layer rather than a single object. But we really don't process these that way in GIMP. One "path" is pretty much a unique object and not a layer (with several objects in it). Also if you could order paths and layers together, it means you could have paths under layers (which currently doesn't exist). That could all be interesting ideas if GIMP had more powerful support of vectors. But right now I feel our implementation is too weak to consider paths as layers for vectors. Jehan -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list
Re: [Gimp-gui] gimp-gui-list Digest, Vol 11, Issue 1
Hi, On 2016-09-28 15:12, Joseph Bupe wrote: Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 23:37:45 +0200 From: JehanTo: gimp-gui-list@gnome.org Subject: [Gimp-gui] Paths should be visible by default Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Hi all! Right now paths are made invisible on creation, which means so see it when you have the path tool activated, but as soon as you choose another tool, it looks like it disappeared: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708124 [1] Actually it is there, simply not visible. Solution is to click on the "eye" icon on the path dock. I think this makes no sense. Anything new should be visible by default (for instance you don't make a layer invisible as a default!). Could we agree on changing this or was there a secret reason for this weird behavior? Jehan Also, shouldn't we just have the Paths Layers within the Layers dialog, then provide "Layer type" option to choose what type of layer to add through that pop-up dialog. Paths are not layers, neither in the code nor conceptually (well you could stretch the concept, I guess, but y first idea would not put these on the same conceptual level). So no, I don't think so. Jehan 1. Pixels Layer (as default) 2. Paths Layer Links: -- [1] https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=708124 ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list -- ZeMarmot open animation film http://film.zemarmot.net Patreon: https://patreon.com/zemarmot Tipeee: https://www.tipeee.com/zemarmot ___ gimp-gui-list mailing list gimp-gui-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-gui-list