Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread sam ende
On Sunday 14 September 2003 01:07, Carol Spears wrote:
 what is the difference between these two things?

i'm not sure either, though i have thought that gap might be 'easier' to 
run without gimp on machines that have limited resources, maybe i'm 
wrong, i have no idea of the technologies involved.
whati have been doing with gap is to use xaos output and add effects.
gap does not support png though and what i do is to open the first image 
of the sequence and then convert them all to jpegs, after doing whatever 
it is i do i then can use gap to make an mpeg. i can't do any of that 
with cinepaint afaik. a problem i have found is that an image created in 
xaos is 'out of image resolution bounds' according to gimp, not knowing 
how to change that i end up often generating a couple of thousand message 
errors :), does this have something to do with the 8 bit resolution 
thingy ? (sorry, i am really not technology minded).

cinepaint doesn't seem to have any of the functions gap has ? i fact i 
haven't been able to discern what functions it does have that gimp 
doesn't, so i'm not sure why one would want to merge ?

s

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Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread David Burren
sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 cinepaint doesn't seem to have any of the functions gap has ? i fact i 
 haven't been able to discern what functions it does have that gimp 
 doesn't, so i'm not sure why one would want to merge ?

I say again: support for 16(48)-bit images!

Gimp will read them in but immediately throw away the lower 8 bits.
For those of us dealing with 16-bit (actually, often 12-bit but the
extra 4 bits are irrelevant in this) film scans and raw files from
digital cameras, this is very important.

BTW, what's gap?  The only GAP I'm aware of is the Gnu Administration
Project.
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Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread Carol Spears
sam ende wrote:

On Sunday 14 September 2003 01:07, Carol Spears wrote:
 

what is the difference between these two things?
   

i'm not sure either, though i have thought that gap might be 'easier' to 
run without gimp on machines that have limited resources, maybe i'm 
wrong, i have no idea of the technologies involved.
whati have been doing with gap is to use xaos output and add effects.
gap does not support png though and what i do is to open the first image 
of the sequence and then convert them all to jpegs, after doing whatever 
it is i do i then can use gap to make an mpeg. i can't do any of that 
with cinepaint afaik. a problem i have found is that an image created in 
xaos is 'out of image resolution bounds' according to gimp, not knowing 
how to change that i end up often generating a couple of thousand message 
errors :), does this have something to do with the 8 bit resolution 
thingy ? (sorry, i am really not technology minded).

cinepaint doesn't seem to have any of the functions gap has ? i fact i 
haven't been able to discern what functions it does have that gimp 
doesn't, so i'm not sure why one would want to merge ?

s

 

well, lets work on gap then.

i was not able to build it from cvs, but the tarball i got from 
http://sven.gimp.org worked.  to be honest, i have not played with this 
plugin very much.  i have a tough time with a single image 

can someone add png and mng support to it?  both png and mng have that 
comment space  :)

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread Carol Spears
David Burren wrote:

sam ende [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

cinepaint doesn't seem to have any of the functions gap has ? i fact i 
haven't been able to discern what functions it does have that gimp 
doesn't, so i'm not sure why one would want to merge ?
   

I say again: support for 16(48)-bit images!

Gimp will read them in but immediately throw away the lower 8 bits.
For those of us dealing with 16-bit (actually, often 12-bit but the
extra 4 bits are irrelevant in this) film scans and raw files from
digital cameras, this is very important.
BTW, what's gap?  The only GAP I'm aware of is the Gnu Administration
Project.
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gimp-gap is available via gnomecvs:
http://mmmaybe.gimp.org/source/howtos/stable-cvs-get.html
instead of cvs checkout -r gimp-1-2 gimp type cvs checkout gimp-gap

however, i was unable to build the plugin from cvs.  i did get the 
tarball from http://sven.gimp.org to work.

can support be added for the extra colors?  and a stand alone (i was 
able to run gimpimpressionist from my brothers 486 because it could 
stand alone) would be very nice, especially for me since i have a huge 
collection of ancient computers.

carol

ps, does anyone have a mutt config i could look at?



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Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread David Neary
Carol Spears wrote:
 what is the difference between these two things?

Filmgimp (now Cinepaint) is a branch of the gimp. That is, it's a
complete image processing application. The framemanager (perhaps
what you're thinking of) is a plug-in for that application. GAP
is a plug-in for unstable gimp, which shares a lot of
functionality with the frame manager. 

By the way, for those who don't know, the GAP plug-in is
available in CVS (CVSROOT=
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvs/gnome, module
gimp-gap). Note that you will need your gimp development stuff on
the search paths of the applications we use to build from CVS
(notably, gimp-2.0.m4 should be in the path specified in
ACLOCAL_FLAGS and gimp-2.0.pc should be on PKGCONFIG_PATH).

Cheers,
Dave.

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   Lyon, France
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Re: [Gimp-user] filmgimp and gap

2003-09-14 Thread sam ende
On Sunday 14 September 2003 14:37, Carol Spears wrote:

 well, lets work on gap then.

it's not a bad program, not much available documantation wise which has 
its plus and minus points, i discover you can do things it was probably 
never intended for but otoh finding i'm doing things in ways totally 
convoluted and uneccesary and so i hesitate to write it up myself.


 i was not able to build it from cvs, but the tarball i got from
 http://sven.gimp.org worked.  to be honest, i have not played with this
 plugin very much.  i have a tough time with a single image 

 can someone add png and mng support to it?  both png and mng have that
 comment space  :)

it would be useful. remember i asked a while back how to convert pngs ? 
turns out you can do it in gimp with gap (duh :) and way easier than 
imagemagik and the like as it keeps the numbering sequence necessary for 
further work, but it would be much more useful if one didn't have to 
convert in the first place.

s
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