Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread David Herman
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 4:47 pm, Martin Vollrathson wrote:
> Sven Neumann wrote:
> >>Ok, so at least the GIMP is supposed to use the precision
> >> coordinates from the tablet? That's all I expect and desire.
> >
> > As long as the tablet is configured as an extended input
> > device, shows up in the input device configuration dialog and
> > is enabled there.
>
> Yup, I can see that now. I found a rather vaguely documented
> feature in the linuxwacom driver called "RawFilter", which just
> happens to be turned on by deafult. When I turn it off everything
> works fine.

I'm curious where you found that info. I have a problem w/ gimp and 
my wacom driver but can't really describe what the problem is. 
perhaps turning off "RawFilter" might help in my situation as well.

Thanks
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Martin Vollrathson

Sven Neumann wrote:

Ok, so at least the GIMP is supposed to use the precision coordinates
from the tablet? That's all I expect and desire.


As long as the tablet is configured as an extended input device, shows
up in the input device configuration dialog and is enabled there.


Yup, I can see that now. I found a rather vaguely documented feature in 
the linuxwacom driver called "RawFilter", which just happens to be 
turned on by deafult. When I turn it off everything works fine.


I'm just surprised this question doesn't turn up all the time.

/Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch image conversion

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have read the one page tutorial on batch mode,
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ and have copied and pasted
> the script and commands and they don't work.

The tutorial is supposed to work. You might want to tell us in what
way it doesn't work for you.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Martin Vollrathson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Ok, so at least the GIMP is supposed to use the precision coordinates
> from the tablet? That's all I expect and desire.

As long as the tablet is configured as an extended input device, shows
up in the input device configuration dialog and is enabled there.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] CVS Gimp and XML:: Parser

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

"John R. Culleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The latest update of the Gimp CVS failed on my machine on the
> ./configure pass because it could not find XML::Parser (a Perl
> module.) I recently reinstalled Perl from CPAN to satisfy
> another application.
>
> My question is this: is XML::Parser a new requirement for
> Gimp or is it something that has been required before? 

It is a requirement of intltool.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch image conversion

2005-07-27 Thread michael chang
On 7/27/05, Jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A B wrote:
> 
> > I'm converting a huge load of sprites from a game into ones suitable
> > for use in another (from Myth II to Doom) and of course this involves
> > a huge amount of repetitive actions- to change the image mode from
> > indexed to RGB, back to indexed but with the Doom palette, and then to
> > go through all the hundreds of seperate frames and manually replace
> > the blue (of hexadecimal reference FF) with another colour
> > (00). Since it is entirely repetitive, I reckoned batch
> >
> I too would like to know how to write batch scripts for gimp. I've used
> convert before but what I need to do can't be accomplished with that
> program.
> 
> I have read the one page tutorial on batch mode,
> http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ and have copied and pasted
> the script and commands and they don't work.
> 
> Anyone have a better tutorial that they can point us to?

To be honest, no, because documentation is absolutely horrid in GIMP. 
However, you may wish to investigate books on Perl and Python, as well
as Web Documentation on Scheme, Script-Fu and SIOD.  In The GIMP,
there is a SIOD console, and the procedure viewer lists the prototypes
for the commands that can be accessed by scripts.  BTW, the procedure
browser lists commands with an underscore, but my version of the SIOD
(Scheme) interpreter in the console uses dashes in places of the
underscores.

First, you may wish to investigate the file_glob, and then things such
as gimp-file-open or whatever it was called.  You might also want to
look up the colour exchange and the like (I believe the commands are
prefixed with plugin- or something).

Although at this rate, surely it must have been faster to do it
manually by hand than go through the trouble of scripting with GIMP? 
Unless you plan to due this often, repetitively, to many large
batches, it's probably faster to do it by hand.

I'm new at scripting too, however, so I can't suggest a better method
(I don't even know if this is the _recommended_ method of scripting).

Consider asking gimp-developer, since apparently that was supposed to
be the designate mailing list for script/plugin development.  *shrugs*

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Re: [Gimp-user] Batch image conversion

2005-07-27 Thread Jim

A B wrote:

I'm converting a huge load of sprites from a game into ones suitable 
for use in another (from Myth II to Doom) and of course this involves 
a huge amount of repetitive actions- to change the image mode from 
indexed to RGB, back to indexed but with the Doom palette, and then to 
go through all the hundreds of seperate frames and manually replace 
the blue (of hexadecimal reference FF) with another colour 
(00). Since it is entirely repetitive, I reckoned batch


I too would like to know how to write batch scripts for gimp. I've used 
convert before but what I need to do can't be accomplished with that 
program.


I have read the one page tutorial on batch mode, 
http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/ and have copied and pasted 
the script and commands and they don't work.


Anyone have a better tutorial that they can point us to?

Thanks in advance!

Jim

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Re: [Gimp-user] rounded corners

2005-07-27 Thread sam ende
On Wednesday 27 July 2005 20:43, matt-nc wrote:

> I'm trying to create a white box with two rounded corners and a shadow
> on all sides on a dark tan background.  Is there something I am doing
> wrong or another way to achieve the same goal?

there is a script-fu tool under script-fu/decor/rounded corners, have you 
tried that ? you could bucket fill the background layer with your desired 
colour and because you only want two rounded corners use a square layer 
half the size to mask the corners you do not want. does that make sense ?

sammi
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[Gimp-user] rounded corners

2005-07-27 Thread matt-nc
I'm trying to make rounded corners using the tutorial below with Gaussian 
Blur IIR and Levels 119-1-135:


http://gug.sunsite.dk/tutorials/rounded-corners/

It works when I put a black rectangle on a white background but not when I 
try to put a white rectangle on a dark tan (B9BA9E) background.


It also doesn't seem to work when I try to apply that to a rectangle on a 
transparent layer.


I'm trying to create a white box with two rounded corners and a shadow on 
all sides on a dark tan background.  Is there something I am doing wrong or 
another way to achieve the same goal?


Thanks,
Matt


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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Martin Vollrathson

michael chang wrote:

Are you running Windows or Linux?


What's "Windows"? :-)

No, I'm using Linux and X.org X11 version 6.8.2.

Still trying to figure out what the linuxwacom driver is actually 
sending to GIMP. The wacdump tool shows everyhthing as it's supposed to 
be but the xidump tool doesn't show any output so until I figure that 
one out I can't really be sure what XInput is telling the GIMP. I tried 
once again to use the tablet as just an extended device, without core 
events and I still get the same results in the GIMP - brush sticking to 
screen coordinates.


Is there a way to make GIMP print the coordinates from an extended input 
device somewhere?


/Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread michael chang
On 7/27/05, Martin Vollrathson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sven Neumann wrote:
> > If you are using a tablet, the tablet should deliver higher precision
> > coordinates. But is that actually the case? Are you really using your
> > tablet as extended input device or is it only delivering core pointer
> > events for some reason?
> 
> Ok, so at least the GIMP is supposed to use the precision coordinates
> from the tablet? That's all I expect and desire.
> 
> I've configured my tablet as an extended input device which also
> delivers core events. My first thought was that the core events were
> confusing the GIMP so I turned the core events off completely for the
> tablet but the results were the same.
> 
> But as long as I know that the GIMP will take care of the high
> resolution coordinates if they're being fed to it correctly, then I
> suppose there's still something wrong with my setup. I can't see what I
> could possibly have done wrong though.
> 

Are you running Windows or Linux?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Martin Vollrathson

Sven Neumann wrote:

If you are using a tablet, the tablet should deliver higher precision
coordinates. But is that actually the case? Are you really using your
tablet as extended input device or is it only delivering core pointer
events for some reason?


Ok, so at least the GIMP is supposed to use the precision coordinates 
from the tablet? That's all I expect and desire.


I've configured my tablet as an extended input device which also 
delivers core events. My first thought was that the core events were 
confusing the GIMP so I turned the core events off completely for the 
tablet but the results were the same.


But as long as I know that the GIMP will take care of the high 
resolution coordinates if they're being fed to it correctly, then I 
suppose there's still something wrong with my setup. I can't see what I 
could possibly have done wrong though.


/Martin
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[Gimp-user] Re: Re: Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-07-27 at 1217.16 +0200):
> > That is an issue that has existed for a long time, Gimp uses the
> > screen coordinates to paint.
> Where's the issue here? Screen coordinates is what GIMP gets
> delivered. It can hardly guess what you meant to draw in physical
> coordinates of the virtual paper. You are drawing on screen and
> that's it. What's your point?

That it could try something better than linear interpolation so at
least mouse users (or people with misconfigured tablets, which sadly
seems too common latelly) would get better results.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] scissors selection tool

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Steve Stavropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 7/27/05, Rachelle McLean wrote:
>> With the selection tool that looks like a pair of scissors, and
>> acts lilke the magnetic lasso tool in Photoshop, I can get it to
>> make a shape but how do you turn the shape with the points into a
>> selection?
>> 
>
>  First you have to close the shape. Your last point should be on top
> of the first one. Then, you click inside your shape and it turns into
> a selection.

Suggestions on how to improve this are welcome. Patches would be even
more appreciated.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] CVS Gimp and XML:: Parser

2005-07-27 Thread John R. Culleton
The latest update of the Gimp CVS failed on my machine on the
./configure pass because it could not find XML::Parser (a Perl
module.) I recently reinstalled Perl from CPAN to satisfy
another application.

My question is this: is XML::Parser a new requirement for
Gimp or is it something that has been required before? 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

GSR - FR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> That is an issue that has existed for a long time, Gimp uses the
> screen coordinates to paint.

Where's the issue here? Screen coordinates is what GIMP gets
delivered. It can hardly guess what you meant to draw in physical
coordinates of the virtual paper. You are drawing on screen and
that's it. What's your point?


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Tablets and sub-pixel sampling

2005-07-27 Thread Sven Neumann
Him

Martin Vollrathson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Sven Neumann wrote:
>> Are you using the pencil tool perhaps? The one and only purpose of the
>> pencil tool is to have a hard edge aligned with the pixel grid.
>
> No, I'm using the brush tool. And there are no hard edges. The brush
> just seems to align with the pixel grid anyway.
>
> http://mavos.net/dump/jagged_line.png
>
> There's a screenshot of a "jagged" curve in a GIMP window. As you can
> see, the lines are unnaturally straight. There's no way I could draw
> that straight if the brush was locking itself to the pixel grid,
> considering that the tablet has a 2000 or so DPI resolution.

Your mouse only delivers pixel coordinates. So if you stroke a paint,
GIMP gets delivered a handful of pixel coordinates and interpolates a
paint stroke between them. If two subsequent coordinates have the same
horizontal or vertical coordinate, you end up with a line that is
aligned with the pixel grid.

If you are using a tablet, the tablet should deliver higher precision
coordinates. But is that actually the case? Are you really using your
tablet as extended input device or is it only delivering core pointer
events for some reason?



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Re: [Gimp-user] scissors selection tool

2005-07-27 Thread Steve Stavropoulos
On 7/27/05, Rachelle McLean wrote:
> With the selection tool that looks like a pair of scissors, and acts lilke 
> the magnetic lasso tool in Photoshop, I can get it to make a shape but how do 
> you turn the shape with the points into a selection?
> 

 First you have to close the shape. Your last point should be on top
of the first one. Then, you click inside your shape and it turns into
a selection.
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