[Gimp-user] Aperture

2005-10-20 Thread Kirk Thibault

See:

http://www.apple.com/aperture/specs.html

Minimum System Requirements

One of the following Macintosh computers:
- Power Mac G5 with a 1.8 gigahertz (GHz) or faster PowerPC G5 processor
- 17- or 20-inch iMac G5 with a 1.8 GHz or faster PowerPC G5 processor
- 15- or 17-inch PowerBook G4 with a 1.25 GHz or faster PowerPC G4  
processor


1GB of RAM

One of the following graphics cards:
- ATI Radeon x600 Pro or x600 XT
- ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
- ATI Radeon X850 XT
- ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
- ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
- ATI Radeon 9600, 9600 XT, 9600 Pro, or 9650
- ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 or 9600
- NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
- NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
- NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
- NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500

5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial
DVD drive for installation

- - - - - -

Obviously, very few Mac users possess machines with these specs.  I  
will say, if someone can make using RAW as easy and powerful for post- 
processing as standard 8-bit processing, and makes the decision that  
a new generation of hardware is the most feasible, effective way,  
then hats off to them.  Digital photography with scores of amateurs  
and prosumers, as well as professionals, will fuel the demand for the  
"next best thing".   Then, the high dynamic range Cinema Display will  
come out, etc., etc.  Watch the QT movies - it looks pretty cool IMHO  
- we'll see what people say when it hits the streets.


kirk
Mac user 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread michael chang
Considering what they're shipping with their latest generation iMacs,
i'm not surprised -- I mean with OS X and the built in cameras on the
iMacs, they've now got videoconferencing on H.264 on their OS by
default... I believe also that OS X was also one to move all the GUI
processing to the graphics card (similar to how Windows Vista plans to
do the same when/if it comes out, either now, or in it's sucessor).

Do note that current Intel PCs are shipping with single-core 2GHz
processors (low end), single-core 3GHz processors (mid-end) or
dual-core 2.4 GHz processors (high-end).

I could be totally wrong, though.

That all said, IIRC, movie editing is a lot worse, usually -
especially if you're going for something with a nice-looking GUI.  You
probably could get by with a bit less, but it'd be unstable and/or
slow.

[I hope there's a minimum system listing too. ;]

On 10/19/05, Jad Madi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> LOL
> Recommended System
>
> * Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster
> * 2GB of RAM
> * One of the following graphics cards:
>   o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
>   o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
>   o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
> * 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial
> * DVD drive for installation

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[Gimp-user] RE : Using lab

2005-10-20 Thread cedric GEMY
Lab is very interesting for photo retouch because Luminosity (better 
said Luminance) is separated from colors.
It is the most complete color model so that Photoshop uses it when you 
want to change the color mode. +> gives more precise result.
But out of that, it is much more difficult to conceive things with 
L*a*b. Gimp does not implement it except in the Decompose Filter. May be 
another thing to do :)


Cedric
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Re: [Gimp-user] Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread Alan Bailward
And it's working dammit!  If I had a spare $4200 CDN and could justify
not putting it on my mortgage I'd have a new apple system soon
(specced out an imac + aperture + (of course) a new ipod last night).

The videos make this thing look incrediably sexy and attractive to an
amateur photog like myself.

Curse you Steve Jobs!!!

On 10/20/05, Michael Schumacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Von: Bruno de Oliveira Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power
> > and 3D pipeline for photo editing...
>
> This application is obviously the answer to the question
>
> "How do we get our customers to buy the last PPC Macs and don't have them
> wait for the Intel ones?"
>
>
> SCNR,
> Michael
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread Michael Schumacher
> Von: Bruno de Oliveira Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power
> and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

This application is obviously the answer to the question

"How do we get our customers to buy the last PPC Macs and don't have them
wait for the Intel ones?"


SCNR,
Michael

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[Gimp-user] Re: Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2005-10-20 at 1004.37 -0200):
> I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power
> and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

Probably cos it uses it has image processor (float, quick retrieve
from the card, shaders, etc required), via their CoreImage system. Or
was it a rethoric question?

If you look at Siggraph and other tech meetings papers, or just search
for "general purpose gpu" you will find it is a hot topic, covering 2d
image processing, raytracing, dynamics simulations, image recognition
and othes. Sadly, it requires modern cards and drivers with all the
features. While the first issue is about money, the second is a bit
harder (or impossible) if you want to keep on using a full free
software solution (for the "what if gimp ...").

You can say they want to move more hardware... which no doubt is true,
it is part of their business. But OTOH no less true that the silicon
can do the work so they are using it instead of limiting it to purely
3d applications.

GSR
 
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RE: [Gimp-user] Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread Leeuw van der, Tim
Well I can imagine that for real-time updating of the image, the various 
shaders in the graphics-card can be useful..? Perhaps?

--Tim

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On 10/20/05, Jad Madi wrote:
> LOL
> Recommended System
>
> * Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster
> * 2GB of RAM
> * One of the following graphics cards:
>   o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
>   o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
>   o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
> * 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial
> * DVD drive for installation

:-)

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power
and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

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http://www.dcc.ufla.br/~bruno/
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Re: [Gimp-user] Another Photo Editing Software

2005-10-20 Thread Bruno de Oliveira Schneider
On 10/20/05, Jad Madi wrote:
> LOL
> Recommended System
>
> * Dual 2GHz Power Mac G5 or faster
> * 2GB of RAM
> * One of the following graphics cards:
>   o ATI Radeon X800 XT Mac Edition
>   o ATI Radeon 9800 XT or 9800 Pro
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL or 6800 GT DDL
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE or 6600
>   o NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT
>   o NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500
> * 5GB of disk space for application, templates, and tutorial
> * DVD drive for installation

:-)

I wonder why the need for a graphics card with high processing power
and 3D pipeline for photo editing...

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http://www.dcc.ufla.br/~bruno/
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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening PNG images with offset as layers

2005-10-20 Thread Carol Spears
On Thu, Oct 20, 2005 at 09:58:44AM +0300, Timo wrote:
> 
> It has been very peaceful and quiet here lately (at least in this
> thread)...
> 
well, be sure to join the lively discussion of grammer checkers for
texttool on another thread (or is it spelled grammar?)

> What should I do next? Should I file a bug report (or feature request,
> perhaps)? Can someone verify that the latest versions behave in the same
> way as mine (2.2.7 on FC4)?
> 
you can file a bug report.  be sure to attach a sample image though --
earlier on this thread someone mentioned that they had never seen a png
like this.  i haven't seen one either.

hell, maybe you can file a bug report and send a url to the sample to
this mail list and specifically this thread.  maybe the grammer checkers
would like to open it also.

> In case this doesn't thread correctly, the original issue was:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-user%40lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/msg08955.html
> 
everything seems to be threading okayfine in mutt here.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Opening PNG images with offset as layers

2005-10-20 Thread Timo
Hi again,

It has been very peaceful and quiet here lately (at least in this
thread)...

What should I do next? Should I file a bug report (or feature request,
perhaps)? Can someone verify that the latest versions behave in the same
way as mine (2.2.7 on FC4)?

In case this doesn't thread correctly, the original issue was:

http://www.mail-archive.com/gimp-user%40lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/msg08955.html

--

Timo


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