Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
Colin Brace wrote: > On 2/25/06, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> set PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkg-config picks up glib and gtk+ from the >> right locations. >> > > Ah, right, I changed that to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ to get glib to > compile. Ok, so I now change it back to /usr/lib/pkgconfig/. Still no > go. What am I missing? > Ok, in your config.log I found this: ---START configure:26767: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8 configure:26882: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 -Wall -I/usr/local/include/gtk-2.0 -I/usr/local/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/local//include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/local/include/cairo -I/usr/local/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0 -I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include conftest.c -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/local//lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangocairo-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lcairo -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -ldl -lglib-2.0>&5 configure:26885: $? = 0 configure:26887: ./conftest ./conftest: error while loading shared libraries: libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory configure:26890: $? = 127 configure: program exited with status 127 configure: failed program was: -END- So, you need to fix your pango installation. Is suggest installing Cairo first: http://cairographics.org/ and then pango: ftp://ftp.gtk.org/pub/gtk/v2.8/ and then try building Gimp 2.3.7. Why libpangocairo is being linked in, I don't know but that's the problem. That is why the test program didn't run. Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green
Robert Citek writes: > I'm slowing getting familiar with gimp/gimpshop. And so I thought I > would try a couple of toy problems. One toy problem is to create a > venn diagram. The resulting image would look something like a Visa > logo, except the colors of the circles would be blue and yellow, with > the intersection being green. Using layer modes, you can get an effect similar to what you're describing: you can make overlapping areas of layers turn colors that reflect the addition or subtraction of the two colors. Unfortunately, blue and yellow don't combine to make green in either addition or subtraction mode; they make white. Think about the RGB values of the colors to understand why -- if you don't know the RGB values of colors off the top of your head, watch the sliders in the color chooser dialog when you select the colors to see how red, green and blue combine to make each color. Blue is 00F, yellow is FF0, and adding them makes white, FFF, instead of green, 0F0. To get a better feel for how colors combine, try this exercise: make a black background layer. On top of it, make three circles, each in its own layer, one colored red, one green, and one blue. Move the circles so that they overlap each other partially but not completely. Now, in the Layers dialog, set each of the three circles to Addition mode and watch how they combine. Play with circles of different colors in different layer modes to see what happens. > To clarify, I'm not looking to select the intersection based on color > and then fill the selection with green, but rather have gimp/gimpshop > imitate what one would do in the real world with color filters, e.g. > acetate[3], and a white light. Subtract mode does basically what colored filters would do to a white light (do the circles exercise I described, but start with a white background instead of black). Addition mode is what you would see if you shone lights of different colors (e.g. a blue light and a yellow light) onto the same surface. Unfortunately, in neither mode will blue and yellow combine to make green, even though that is the combination you'd expect if you're used to mixing paints. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
On 2/25/06, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > set PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkg-config picks up glib and gtk+ from the > right locations. Ah, right, I changed that to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/ to get glib to compile. Ok, so I now change it back to /usr/lib/pkgconfig/. Still no go. What am I missing? -- Colin Brace Amsterdam ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
Hi, "Colin Brace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0 > 2.8.12 > > but: > > ../gimp-2.3.7/configure: > > [...] > > checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config > checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8... no > *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... configure detected the correct version of gtk+ and built a test program against it. But this test program cannot be executed, most probably because the linker didn't find the gtk+ library. Have you set LD_LIBRARY_PATH? Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Animations with translucent layers?
Hi, RalfGesellensetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > for several times I managed to create animations witb Gimp 2.2. > Especially nice are web animations (GIF) which are easily done with > GIMP. > > Now, for the first time, GIMP's outcome is different from what I > expect. Is it a feature or a bug that partly transparent layers are > not shown in the animation preview box? All of the pixels in your partly transparent layers have an alpha value below 127, they are more transparent than opaque. Since GIF only supports binary transparency, these pixels all end up being transparent in the animation. The Animation Playback plug-in simulates GIF transparency. If someone wants to come up with a patch that adds a check button to enable/disable this feature, that would be a welcomed contribution. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Animations with translucent layers?
Am Samstag 25 Februar 2006 20:17 schrieben Sie: > the gifs that average users like you (maybe) and me have one 256 > color palette Dear Carol, thanks for your fast reply. If it was for exporting to GIF, I would have come to the same conclusion. But it is also within GIMP preview dialogue that the translucent gradients are not shown. I made sure in a 2nd trial that the layers themselves _are_ shown. Regards Ralf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
On 2/25/06, Tom Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > run "pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0" to see what version of GTK+ is > registered with pkg-config. OK: $ pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0 2.8.12 but: ../gimp-2.3.7/configure: [...] checking for pkg-config... (cached) /usr/bin/pkg-config checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8... no *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... [...] Very weird. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Animations with translucent layers?
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 07:58:35PM +0100, RalfGesellensetter wrote: > Hello all, > > for several times I managed to create animations witb Gimp 2.2. > Especially nice are web animations (GIF) which are easily done with > GIMP. > > Now, for the first time, GIMP's outcome is different from what I expect. > Is it a feature or a bug that partly transparent layers are not shown > in the animation preview box? I put an example to > > http://www.skolelinux.de/~ralf/artwork/animations/ > forgive me, i have not looked at the animation yet. even without looking (however) i can tell you that gif is either completely transparent or completely painted. there is no inbetween, unless you are one of those people who has purchased or obtained the propietary gif libraries which use (i think) something that i can only imagine to be a layered color set up. the gifs that average users like you (maybe) and me have one 256 color palette. one of the color positions can be used for transparency leaving 255 colors and 1 no color. the industry gif has 256 of those palettes to work with and can show various amounts of transparency. btw, 256x256 is something close to 16 million, which is the number of colors that a jpeg uses. jpeg however does not know transparency. so there you go. it is not gimp that cannot make your animation transparent, it is the library they allow you to have and for your software to use to make and view gif with. mng works. i am certain that one day a browser will be made that can display mng. especially if we can make a community of interested people who want to deliver free software to actual users. until such a software project exists, you can search the bug reports of the different browser projects to see what has happened there. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
Hi, "Colin Brace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Earlier this week, I installed 2.3.7 under Ubuntu (Breezy). At the > moment, I am trying to do the same under Fedora Core 4, but I am > having less success. In particular, I keep getting this error message > from configure: > > checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8... no set PKG_CONFIG_PATH so that pkg-config picks up glib and gtk+ from the right locations. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Animations with translucent layers?
Hello all, for several times I managed to create animations witb Gimp 2.2. Especially nice are web animations (GIF) which are easily done with GIMP. Now, for the first time, GIMP's outcome is different from what I expect. Is it a feature or a bug that partly transparent layers are not shown in the animation preview box? I put an example to http://www.skolelinux.de/~ralf/artwork/animations/ Cheers Ralf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 10:44:52AM -0600, Robert Citek wrote: > > I'm slowing getting familiar with gimp/gimpshop. And so I thought I > would try a couple of toy problems. One toy problem is to create a > venn diagram. The resulting image would look something like a Visa > logo, except the colors of the circles would be blue and yellow, with > the intersection being green. Here's an SVG version[1] which is close > to what I'm looking for. Notice, though, that the intersection is > the wrong color. (Modified from the Mozilla website on SVG[2]. > first thing. in keeping with the spirit of how gimpshop came to be, i am curious if there are separate online resources for this application. they opted (probably for really good reasons) to go on their own to provide software for what is probably a large group of users. perhaps you could list gimpshop resources here so that the gimp users can redirect the gimpshop questions to the proper place. personally, i do not want to interfer with them. they filled a nitch and did this without the gimp developers. i suspect they had really good reasons to do this. it would be wrong, in my opinion, to start to help them now -- keeping with the spirit of their project. carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
P.S. If like me you don't have any German, you'll need Babelfish http://babelfish.altavista.com/ in order to understand the bug report form, but you can report in English and the reply comes back in English as well HTH Doug Doug wrote: Hi Paul, Sorry you're not having much joy so far. I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only an interim solution till there's proper colour management in Gimp. However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a new PPD file that solved it. Hope you have some success! Doug Paul Waldo wrote: Hi Doug, I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed with the results. It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast. Can you give some more details on your results with TurboPrint? If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(. I don't see how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile in the loop... Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paul ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Building multicolor gradients.
On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 11:40:45AM -0500, John R. Culleton wrote: > I want to build a gradient with three (or more) colors. Under > 2.3.7 the "new gradient" routine only allows or a start and an > end color. > > What am I missing? > i think you are missing an idea. first add new segments. right click on the colors in the gradient editor. you can add segments in more than one way. i always have to read the options and think about it. each segment has a right boundry, center boundry and left boundry. the end and start in the dialog means the selected segments. to select a segment, right click on the center triangle of the segment you want. to select a group of segments, right click on either ending segment and (i think) shift click on the other ending segment. the menu dialog uses right and left start points and this would be the right and left of the selected group of segments. the interface with the gradient editor is somewhat complex, but so is editing gradients. after having been successful at this, i cannot think of a simpler way to do this. i think i have a tutorial about it, i don't know if it answers your questions directly . [pause while reviewing old tutorials] http://carol.gimp.org/gimp2/artsy-fartsy/gradient/ sure, it is right there. howcome i get so many web hits yet no one seems to know where my tutorials are? carol ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Printing success stories?
Hi Paul, Sorry you're not having much joy so far. I don't know that I can offer any specific advice - I do remember suffering a similar problem to yours at first which did get resolved, perhaps by following the instructions in the manual religiously, but now I don't recall how. I do find the printed colours I get are a close match to the monitor - as judged by eye - although I agree, that's only an interim solution till there's proper colour management in Gimp. However, what I would recommend is submitting a bug report to http://www.turboprint.de/feedback.html The people there are very prompt in replying and helpful - I found, for example, that I could not print on two of the better quality Epson papers with my Epson Stylus Photo 2100; and within a few days received a new PPD file that solved it. Hope you have some success! Doug Paul Waldo wrote: Hi Doug, I have been experimenting with TurboPrint and have not been very impressed with the results. It is still better than the stock gimpprint, but my test image has a noticeable red-cast. Can you give some more details on your results with TurboPrint? If it would give me Windows-quality prints, I would gladly pay them twice what they are asking, but so far it is really unusable for me :-(. I don't see how they can expect decent color without having some kind of monitor profile in the loop... Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Paul ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] blue + yellow = green
Hello all, I'm slowing getting familiar with gimp/gimpshop. And so I thought I would try a couple of toy problems. One toy problem is to create a venn diagram. The resulting image would look something like a Visa logo, except the colors of the circles would be blue and yellow, with the intersection being green. Here's an SVG version[1] which is close to what I'm looking for. Notice, though, that the intersection is the wrong color. (Modified from the Mozilla website on SVG[2]. To clarify, I'm not looking to select the intersection based on color and then fill the selection with green, but rather have gimp/gimpshop imitate what one would do in the real world with color filters, e.g. acetate[3], and a white light. Can this be done with the gimp/gimpshop? I'm assuming I should be looking at layer masking and transparency. Pointers in the right direction appreciated. [1] http://cwelug.org/~rwcitek/blue+yellow=green.xml [2] http://www.mozilla.org/projects/svg/ [3] http://www.misterart.com/store/view/001/group_id/420/Grafix- Colored-Clear-Lay-Acetate-Film.htm Regards, - Robert http://www.cwelug.org/downloads Help others get OpenSource software. Distribute FLOSS for Windows, Linux, *BSD, and MacOS X with BitTorrent ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Building multicolor gradients.
I want to build a gradient with three (or more) colors. Under 2.3.7 the "new gradient" routine only allows or a start and an end color. What am I missing? -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
Colin Brace wrote: > Hi all, > > I hate having to bother this list with tiresome compile problems, but here > goes: > > Earlier this week, I installed 2.3.7 under Ubuntu (Breezy). At the > moment, I am trying to do the same under Fedora Core 4, but I am > having less success. In particular, I keep getting this error message > from configure: > > checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8... no > *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... > *** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means > *** that the run-time linker is not finding GTK+ or finding the wrong > *** version of GTK+. If it is not finding GTK+, you'll need to set your > *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point > *** to the installed location Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that > *** is required on your system > *** > *** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it, although > *** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH > configure: error: Test for GTK+ failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help. > Run "pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0" to see what version of GTK+ is registered with pkg-config. I think the Gimp configure script uses pkg-config to get the locations of GLIB and GTK+ includes and libs. If the version of GTK+ registered to pkg-config doesn't match what you know is installed, you can fix that problem. If you like, e-mail me your config.log and I can possibly let you know what you need to fix. Peace... Tom ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Mac-Gimp
Hello Bruce, On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Bruce Arkwright Jr. wrote: Hello again, I back and having the same old problem with Gimp-2.2.10-svg.dmg running on OS 10.4.5. It seams every-time Apple upgrades the OS, Gimp quits working. Is anyone else having the same problem? I'm running Gimpshop[1] (01/31/06 based on Gimp 2.2.10) on OS X 10.4.5 and it seems to run just fine. Of course, I have nothing to compare it to since I just started using Gimp/Gimpshop. [1] http://plasticbugs.com/index.php?p=241 Regards, - Robert http://www.cwelug.org/downloads Help others get OpenSource software. Distribute FLOSS for Windows, Linux, *BSD, and MacOS X with BitTorrent ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Compiling 2.3.7 under FC4, configure can't find gtk2+2.8.12
Hi all, I hate having to bother this list with tiresome compile problems, but here goes: Earlier this week, I installed 2.3.7 under Ubuntu (Breezy). At the moment, I am trying to do the same under Fedora Core 4, but I am having less success. In particular, I keep getting this error message from configure: checking for GTK+ - version >= 2.8.8... no *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why... *** The test program compiled, but did not run. This usually means *** that the run-time linker is not finding GTK+ or finding the wrong *** version of GTK+. If it is not finding GTK+, you'll need to set your *** LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, or edit /etc/ld.so.conf to point *** to the installed location Also, make sure you have run ldconfig if that *** is required on your system *** *** If you have an old version installed, it is best to remove it, although *** you may also be able to get things to work by modifying LD_LIBRARY_PATH configure: error: Test for GTK+ failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help. Initially, I installed 2.8.12 in /usr/local, as is my preference for newer, non-packaged versions. When that didn't work, I bit the bullet and removed the latest official package, 2.6.10, with sudo rpm -e --nodeps gtk2, and installed 2.8.12 in the default location, but that still didn't solve the problem. FWIW, I added /usr/local to /etc/ld.so.conf, and, yes, I run sudo ldconfig after installing the libraries. Something is going wrong, but what? I was able to install gtk2 2.8.12 in /usr/local and compile gimp 2.3.7 without this problem under Ubuntu, and without having to uninstall the older official releases, and I'd like to be able to do the same under Fedora. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Mac-Gimp
Hello again, I back and having the same old problem with Gimp-2.2.10-svg.dmg running on OS 10.4.5. It seams every-time Apple upgrades the OS, Gimp quits working. Is anyone else having the same problem? And I was curious if there is a GIMPwin-users forum, why there is a ton of W$ users on this forum, thus a ton of emails I can not help on or info to use. Should not W$ problems be posted there? As such I wish there was a Mac/Gimp forum. -- ___ Search for businesses by name, location, or phone number. -Lycos Yellow Pages http://r.lycos.com/r/yp_emailfooter/http://yellowpages.lycos.com/default.asp?SRC=lycos10 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
