Re: [Gimp-user] lcd or crt monitor
Gracia M. Littauer wrote: which is preferred for graphics? I've heard that lcd is not good. In the past, CRT monitors were considered better because the displayed gamut was wider, the color consistency (same color in different areas) was better and greater resolutions were offered when compared to LCDs. >From what I see, Apple is no longer offering CRT monitors, Viewsonic has abandoned its CRT Professional series. Does this mean LCD monitors are on par with CRTs ? LCDs are now a lot better than before, but since I am not a professional user and I still use my CRT, I'd say as long as you can have calibrated colors and controlled results through the whole process (scan or photo shoot, image treatment, print) both should be ok. I checked high-end LCD and low quality CRT and the LCD was a clear winner on comfort even if refreshing rate of the CRT was over 75 Hz. BTW, are there any user of large recent Viewsonic LCD and CRT monitors ? I would also like to know your opinion. Gilles Maltais ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] lcd or crt monitor
Gilles Maltais writes: In the past, CRT monitors were considered better because the displayed gamut was wider, the color consistency (same color in different areas) was better and greater resolutions were offered when compared to LCDs. For basic low-end displays (the ones you see on display in your local computer store), all those differences are still true. But you can get better resolution and better color in an LCD monitor if you pay for it. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: lcd or crt monitor
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-18 at 1644.03 -0500): which is preferred for graphics? I've heard that lcd is not good. High end CRTs (probably the only ones you can find now, and in 19-22 inches sizes, price 400-600 euros) have years of development behind them, so if you do not mind the weight and power usage, they are a good solution, and probably cheaper than equivalent LCDs. They have good resolution for the size (and can work at different resolutions without problems), colour is good, just make them run in 85-100Hz. LCDs keep improving, but they are still are evolving and catching up (you will probably find news about now with x% of NTSC color or lots and lots of money for the medical series, for example), so do not expect to get some cheap LCD and be as good as the CRTs still in production (or stock, dunno if they are just running on big stock). Even the expensive ones still have issues compared to CRTs, and vendors just change the measure method to show they are better, so take things with a grain of salt. You better view them working, with videos and all kind of images (of your own, preferably) before buying. Of course, if you want a 30, you have to go with LCD. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] lcd or crt monitor
Hi! I not tested today's best LCD monitors... but while there are differences in colors while you move your head before an LCD monitor, the CRT monitor is better for professional use! Anti On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 09:41 -0800, Akkana Peck wrote: Gilles Maltais writes: In the past, CRT monitors were considered better because the displayed gamut was wider, the color consistency (same color in different areas) was better and greater resolutions were offered when compared to LCDs. For basic low-end displays (the ones you see on display in your local computer store), all those differences are still true. But you can get better resolution and better color in an LCD monitor if you pay for it. ...Akkana ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] the difference between resoloution and size
what is the difference between resoloution and size? between a picture with height:100; width:100 and resolution:200 to height:100; width:100 and resolution:400 ? Udi ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: the difference between resoloution and size
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-19 at 2348.25 +0200): what is the difference between resoloution and size? between a picture with height:100; width:100 and resolution:200 to height:100; width:100 and resolution:400 ? Udi Resolution is a hint for the real world print size and size is the pixels you really have (assuming you are displaying width and height in pixel units). So both have the same number of pixels, but one is declared to be printed as 0.5 inch side square and the other as 0.25. Some people get really picky about the resolution being correct so they know the print size without doing maths, and others think that changing the number will do magic and give you a non pixelated print. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: the difference between resoloution and size
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-19 at 2339.24 +0100): Hi! ... and is there any difference in picture if I set: 100x100 in 400dpi or 200x200 in 100dpi and make a print from it (in same size - 10cm x 10cm for example)? Then it is not 400 or 100 DPI, but (rounding to 1 inch = 2.5 cm) a 4 inch print, so you have printed 100 pixels to 4 inches and 200 to 4 inches too, so that was 25 and 50 DPI. Maybe you are confused with the printer's DPI (300, 720, 1440...) but those are not pixels, but ink dots. The print system has to convert the file/screen pixels (think about them like squares or rectangles with different levels of intensity) to ink dots which are on or off (one level of intensity, so the printer creates patterns of dots to simulate the intensity levels when looked from far away). Thanks: Anti On Sun, 2006-03-19 at 23:10 +0100, GSR - FR wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-19 at 2348.25 +0200): what is the difference between resoloution and size? between a picture with height:100; width:100 and resolution:200 to height:100; width:100 and resolution:400 ? Udi Resolution is a hint for the real world print size and size is the pixels you really have (assuming you are displaying width and height in pixel units). So both have the same number of pixels, but one is declared to be printed as 0.5 inch side square and the other as 0.25. Some people get really picky about the resolution being correct so they know the print size without doing maths, and others think that changing the number will do magic and give you a non pixelated print. GSR GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: the difference between resoloution and size
GSR - FR wrote: Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (2006-03-19 at 2339.24 +0100): Hi! ... and is there any difference in picture if I set: 100x100 in 400dpi or 200x200 in 100dpi and make a print from it (in same size - 10cm x 10cm for example)? Then it is not 400 or 100 DPI, but (rounding to 1 inch = 2.5 cm) a 4 inch print, so you have printed 100 pixels to 4 inches and 200 to 4 inches too, so that was 25 and 50 DPI. Maybe you are confused with the printer's DPI (300, 720, 1440...) but those are not pixels, but ink dots. The print system has to convert the file/screen pixels (think about them like squares or rectangles with different levels of intensity) to ink dots which are on or off (one level of intensity, so the printer creates patterns of dots to simulate the intensity levels when looked from far away). I have been trying to understand this better myself. I couldn't find any good help on it. My goal was to determine the maximum size image in pixels that would print exactly on a letter-size paper with no scaling. I built a resolution test image and found that the highest resolution that I could see a 1 pixel line on my printer was about 150 pixel/inch. This is on windows xp. I see that in at least some file formats, the resolution setting is saved in the metadata as dpi. But when I print the image using different applications, I get different results. The apps seem to use or package the data differently for the driver. For example, one app has options in the print dialog for fit pixels fit resolution and fit to page. I haven't figured out yet exactly what this does (other than fit to page obviously scales the data up or down as required. My printer also has a poster mode (2x2, 3x3,4x4). As best I can determine all this does is first scale the image to a single page in the app and then the printer just zooms it (I don't know if it does any sort ot interpolation but I doubt it). scott s. . ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: the difference between resoloution and size
On Monday, March 20, 2006 12:02 PM [GMT+1=CET], scott s. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..] I have been trying to understand this better myself. I couldn't find any good help on it. Although it focuses on scanning, this has an explantion of pixels, dpi, images, printing, etc.: http://www.scantips.com/basics01.html -- Bob Long ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] lcd or crt monitor
On 3/18/06, Gracia M. Littauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which is preferred for graphics? I've heard that lcd is not good.The Shootsmarter site has a decent article on comparing CRTs to LCDs. http://www.shootsmarter.com/infocenter/wc041.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: the difference between resoloution and size
Thanks a lot to all of you :- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
