Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 22:32]:
> I guess I'm spoiled and feel like I ought to be able to find all
> these things in a few standard places.  I'll try to be more
> painstaking next time.


Now, if we could just get you to trim your qutes a little   :^)

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Alex Feldman]

Thank you Patrick, and Raphael, and Carol.  Everything went in nicely 
and I'm now tuning up my printer.  I guess I'm spoiled and feel like I 
ought to be able to find all these things in a few standard places.  
I'll try to be more painstaking next time.


Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 08:27]:
  

I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5
separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, looked on the Gimp
downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and
Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find anything with
a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.



Just not looking in the right place

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182948/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:44
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5799196  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla>   
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm



http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182930/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:50
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5367452  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla>   
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

ftp.univie.ac.atgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.ntua.gr gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.task.gda.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm

  


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[Gimp-user] Cool GIMP Graphic

[sigmaman]

Hey,

Sorry about the weird link issue. Here is another link, and it should work.


http://featherston.blogspot.com/2006/10/gimp-poster.html


Thanks,
Sigmaman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: How damaged photos my camera takes?

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Juhana Sadeharju <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 15:58]:
> 
> How would one correct the photos 7748 and 7749 to look like
> 7741 and 7751? And at the same time preserving the sunrays?
> 

First I would not shoot in "auto".  A general guide would be to shoot
motion sensitive shots in shutter priority mode and scenes in aperture
priority mode.

Second I would obtain a basic photography book/manual, particularly one
using a canon digital point-and-shoot, and study, comparing the
suggestions and examples to your canon ixus 400 manual and camera.

Then try to preform each of the lessons with your camera and see what
it takes to achieve the same result.

Then it is time to learn to edit your shots to get them to display more
what you intended but were unable to accomplish with your camera.

ps, if I intend to display or provide access to a photo, normailly I
use the highest quality mode available on the camera (iso 50, 2272x1704
jpg superfine on your camera) to record the shot.  Remember that each
time you edit and save a jpg image, you loose a little quality (or much
quality depending on the per-centage of compression).

humm, looks like you only have a choice of auto or manual and the iso
was 50 (on 7749.jpg) and super-fine @ 2272x1704.  Looks like auto
white-balance is a good choice for your camera and iso 100 is a
problem.

point, learn to use the histogram and use it frequently.  Editing a
*good* shot is much easier that trying to *make* a good shot after the
fact.  The second frequently causes noise to become prevalent.

Take multiple shots of the same scene with slightly different settings
(aperture and shutter).

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canons400
 same as IXUS 400 (April 2003).

gud luk,
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[Gimp-user] Re: How damaged photos my camera takes?

[Juhana Sadeharju]

How would one correct the photos 7748 and 7749 to look like
7741 and 7751? And at the same time preserving the sunrays?

http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7748.jpg  (automatic mode)
http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7749.jpg  (manual mode with less exposure)
http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7741.jpg  (automatic mode)
http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7751.jpg  (automatic mode)

Both my attempts uses first the curves tool and then adds saturation,
but I have no idea what would be correct/best operations.
 http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7749mod1.png  (my attempt 1)
 http://www.funet.fi/~kouhia/7749mod2.png  (my attempt 2)

The curve was designed using the rules:
 (1) The top values, i.e., sky, are ok and thus curve y = x should be
 applied at top.
 (2) Exposure time was low at bottom+middle and thus curve y = 3x (for
 example) should be applied there. The linear function y = 3x means
 that the exposure time is tripled.
 (3) Some smooth piece of curve connects the bottom and top segments.
 In practise, I had to use only 4 control points in the curve
 because more points meant wavy curve. That limited the smooth
 piece of curve between the bottom and the top greatly.

Better spline would be needed in the curve tool, like what is in the
path tool (but note that I have GIMP 1.2.3).

Saturation was added until the photo looked ok enough. The saturation
worked like a magic. I wonder why it seems to be needed. Is it a camera
property that low exposure works differently than long exposure?
Or is it property of the curve tool? I.e., a better curve tool would
always add the saturation.

The image 7749mod2 looks tolerable, but the noise is a big problem.
I guess better camera would solve that. I could also try the HDR
photo techniques as I found Olli's dynamic range extender. I have
a code somewhere which I obtained from a person who wrote similar
photo combiner for multiple photos, and wrote a Siggraph paper on it.
Though, digital cameras could have a sequencer which can be programmed to
take multiple photos as fast as possible with different settings
(exposure, focus, zoom, etc). No patent pending.

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[Gimp-user] Cool GIMP graphic

[sigmaman]

Hey everyone,
 
Check this neat GIMP image out.
 

http://www.eefoof.com/image/15641
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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Ken Tanaka]

Raphaël Quinet wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 16:00:25 -0500, Eric P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Personally, I think the name should change not because I find GIMP 
>> derogatory but because I think a name that somewhat
>> identified (even vaguely) what sphere the software is used it would be a 
>> boon.> 
>> Inkscape is an excellent name in my opinion.  It is somewhat ambiguous, but 
>> you definitely know that software named
>> Inkscape must have something to do with the artistic sphere.  That's all you 
>> really need.
>> 
>
> I agree.  Among the various arguments about changing GIMP's name, this
> is probably the only one that makes a bit of sense.  This is not a
> problem for those who know that "GIMP" actually stands for "GNU Image
> Manipulation Program" but those who do not know GIMP yet will probably
> not know the expansion of the acronym either.  Besides, the acronym is
> rarely expanded in casual talks and most users see only "GIMP" in the
> splash screen and in the window titles so they may not even know what
> this stands for.
>
> It may be interesting to associate the name of the application with
> what it does.  If we look at GIMP and its derivatives, we have:
>   GIMP- Meaningless unless it is expanded.
...

Maybe if we all make a concerted effort to call it by the shortened name
of "GNU Image", people with hear "NewImage" (sounds more glitzy, like a
"TM" should follow immediatly afterward), and the name could be
self-fulfilling.

>   Dogwaffle   - Bad.
...
Eww, sounds like somebody stepped in that one...;-)
>   PhotoPaint  - Good.
> For the vector drawing programs, names like InkScape, Skencil or
> Sketch are rather good.
>
> Several other applications in the same area seem to have more
> interesting names.  Maybe GIMP could become more popular if it
> switched to a name that is more directly associated with graphics.
> Maybe not.  As Yosh mentioned, GIMP already has some mindshare and a
> new name would not only have to be good, it would have to be good
> enough to justify sacrificing the popularity of the current name.
>
> So feel free to propose better names that are:
> - related to the graphics, photo or image manipulation domains
> - cool, inspiring
> - unique so that we don't run into trademark problems
> - short enough to fit in the applications menu or window titles
> - suitable for most languages and cultures
>
> If you find a name that meets all these criteria and would probably be
> immediately adopted by a marketing team if GIMP were a commercial
> product, then keep in mind that you would still have 90% chance to
> have the name rejected because some developers simply do not want to
> change the name.  With that in mind, I wish you good luck...
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Carol Spears]

On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 05:32:07AM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:
> OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
> up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
> Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
> package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
> that before.
> 
it takes a little time to get used to working with your distribution.
as a debian user, i often need to get help from people who are making
the debs or people who have been using it for a while.

i attempted to help you understand what to look for.

i deleted everything below your message to this list since you were not
obviously responding directly to anything that was there.

could you help me to help you?  paste your original question into an
email and then paste my original response to your question right below 
that (making the email appear more like a conversation).  occasionally,
when writing email to friends and family, i manually make fake line
breaks and add a '>' so that they can read it more easily.  then below 
this, suggest what i could have said better that would have helped you 
to understand your distribution better?

http://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html
List Etiquette -- the suggestions there for email formation, while not
exactly the direction that Web 2.0 seems to be going, they do make
corresponding via email much easier.

thanks,

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Geoffrey]

Alan Horkan wrote:

On Sun, 1 Oct 2006, Geoffrey wrote:


Not really a "product" per se, but I'd say you nailed it.

Personally, I would never be caught dead in a Hooters.  Your example
leads me to believe you'd equate the quality of GIMP users with the
quality of Hooter's clientele.  Maybe that wasn't your intention...
(boy, this thread has gone nutty).

No, it certainly was not.  In my mind the comparison of GIMP to Hooters
is not valid.  GIMP is not intended to be derogatory, but we all know
how Hooters gets it's name.

I'm a GIMP user as well, thus I don't equate myself with the scum you'll
find frequenting Hooters. :)


Do you have a problem with owls?  The name is perfectly acceptable!


Either you're joking or you're entirely clueless...

Either way, it's an unacceptable response to an issue that, up until 
this point I had assumed was a serious issue to you.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[John R. Culleton]

On Sunday 01 October 2006 05:15, Christoph Sturm wrote:
> On 10/1/06, Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > please also explain the reason that you target GIMP and not some of the
> > other perhaps better funded names of products that are as or more
> > offensive than this one here?
>
> can you give an example of such a product?
>
> regards
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This discussion is getting circular. Hooters, Hustler, Vanity
Fair, Spam to repeat some which have been named already.


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Raphaël Quinet]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 06:24:25 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, let me restate the question.  I can't find any sort of development 
> package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, 
> looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched 
> RedHat, and Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find 
> anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

I don't use Fedora, but it wasn't hard for me to discover that there
is indeed a package called gimp-devel for FC5:

http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=gimp-devel&system=fedora

> But please don't lose sight of my original question - I just want to 
> have Gutenprint make the print plugin, which it is not presently doing.  
> From my examination of the configuration log, it appears that it wants 
> the gimpui.pc file, which seems like a reasonable thing to want, but I 
> don't know.  I didn't see anything in the Release notes, so it seems 
> like if it was there once, it ought to still be there.

The main purpose of the *.pc files is to include the right directories
and compiler options that are specific to your system in order to
ensure that the plug-ins can be built and installed correctly.  The
file gimpui-2.0.pc is automatically generated when GIMP is built and
there must be some package for your distribution that includes the
appropriate version of this file.  It is important to use the right
package for your distribution because each distribution is likely to
use slightly different directories or compiler options for building
and installing GIMP.  If you take some random *.pc file from another
distribution, you are likely to break things.  So please install the
correct package (gimp-devel-2.2.13) and it should work fine.

If gimpui-2.0.pc is not included in the gimp-devel package, then you
should report a bug in the Fedora bug tracker, because this is
problem in the distribution and not a GIMP bug.

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Patrick Shanahan]

* Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [10-02-06 08:27]:
> I can't find any sort of development package for gimp for FC5
> separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, looked on the Gimp
> downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched RedHat, and
> Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find anything with
> a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.

Just not looking in the right place

http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182948/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:44
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5799196  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> 
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.x86_64.rpm



http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/3182930/com/gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm.html

Name : gimp-devel   
Version : 2.2.13Vendor : Red Hat, Inc_
Release : 1.fc5 Date : 2006-08-28 09:25:50
Group : Applications/Multimedia Source RPM :
gimp-2.2.13-1.fc5.src.rpm
Size : 5367452  
Packager : Red Hat, Inc_ < http://bugzilla_redhat_com/bugzilla> 
Summary : GIMP plugin and extension development kit
Description :
The gimp-devel package contains the static libraries and header files
for writing GNU Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) plug-ins and
extensions.

ftp.univie.ac.atgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
mirror.switch.chgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.uni-bayreuth.de gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
sunsite.auc.dk  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
chuck.ucs.indiana.edu   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rediris.es  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.ntua.gr gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.rhnet.isgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.kddlabs.co.jp   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.nluug.nlgimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.task.gda.pl gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.pbone.net   gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.icm.edu.pl  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.chg.ru  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.sunet.segimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.isu.edu.tw  gimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm
ftp.is.co.zagimp-devel-2.2.13-1.fc5.i386.rpm

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Alex Feldman]

OK, let me restate the question.  I can't find any sort of development 
package for gimp for FC5 separate from the Gimp itself.  I've googled, 
looked on the Gimp downloads page, the Gimp Unix page, and searched 
RedHat, and Sourceforge.  I can't find it.  But neither can I find 
anything with a name like libgimp-dev on my computer.


But please don't lose sight of my original question - I just want to 
have Gutenprint make the print plugin, which it is not presently doing.  
From my examination of the configuration log, it appears that it wants 
the gimpui.pc file, which seems like a reasonable thing to want, but I 
don't know.  I didn't see anything in the Release notes, so it seems 
like if it was there once, it ought to still be there.


So maybe there is something deeper here?  Is FC5 gimp supposed to have a 
gimpui.pc file?  I'm not at all shy about asking questions on the 
gimp-print devel list, but for the moment I think these are questions 
about Gimp that I would like to nail down.


Thanks very much.

Raphaël Quinet wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:32:07 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  
OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
that before.



Certainly not!  It is unlikely that a Debian package will install cleanly
in FC5.  And even if you manage to install it (e.g., using alien to convert
the package), it is very likely that your system will be unusable or at
least unmaintainable after that.

Some Linux distributors have decided to split the GIMP files in two or more
packages: one of them (usually just called "gimp") contains the files that
are needed for normal usage and another one (usually called "gimp-dev" or
"gimp-devel" or something similar) contains the files that are only needed
if you want to build and install plug-ins.  The latter usually includes the
header files, the *.pc files needed by pkgconfig, etc.  It should not be
too hard for you to find the right package for your distribution.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Raphaël Quinet]

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 05:32:07 -0600, Alex Feldman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
> up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
> Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
> package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
> that before.

Certainly not!  It is unlikely that a Debian package will install cleanly
in FC5.  And even if you manage to install it (e.g., using alien to convert
the package), it is very likely that your system will be unusable or at
least unmaintainable after that.

Some Linux distributors have decided to split the GIMP files in two or more
packages: one of them (usually just called "gimp") contains the files that
are needed for normal usage and another one (usually called "gimp-dev" or
"gimp-devel" or something similar) contains the files that are only needed
if you want to build and install plug-ins.  The latter usually includes the
header files, the *.pc files needed by pkgconfig, etc.  It should not be
too hard for you to find the right package for your distribution.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimpui.pc

[Alex Feldman]

OK, is there a place I can get more information on this?  Google showed 
up surprisingly little for libgimp2.0-dev, and most of it was either for 
Debian or not in English (which I prefer).  Can I just download the 
package from the Debian site and install it in FC5?  I've never done 
that before.



Carol Spears wrote:

On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 08:11:43PM -0600, Alex Feldman wrote:
  

I just installed FC5, which comes with Gimp, but there is no gimpui.pc file.

Gutenprint looks for it before it makes the print plugin for Gimp, which 
is what I am after.  So do I need to find this file somewhere and put it 
in my PKG_CONFIG_PATH, or is there some other way to get Gutenprint to 
make that plugin?




probably you need to install libgimp-dev or whatever it is called on
FC5.

carol

  


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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Doug]

Owen Berry wrote:


On 9/30/06, Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


"lameness: disability of walking due to crippling of the legs or feet"
http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Agimp

This is the commonly understood meaning of the word for most English
speakers and it is considered derogatory, like calling someone a 
cripple.


English-speaking countries: There's also Australian English, British 
English, Indian English, South African English, West African English, 
etc.  and I believe the majority of English speakers are 
actually Indian. The Oxford (Compact) English dictionary gives the 
derogatory sense of the word as N.American. So does the dictionary.com  
link quoted in an earlier post.



There are quite a few native English speakers who have pointed out
that "gimp" means nothing to them, and I want to add myself to that
list. 


Me, likewise. (neither from Aus or the US)


Can we get past this and agree that it's just a cultural issue,
and maybe generational as well. Not only did I never hear it in a
derogatory context in my own country, but after 8 years in the US I
haven't heard it used that way here either. Maybe people need to stop
speaking and thinking in such a derogatory fashion. Renew your minds!

Oh, and if the project was to be renamed, maybe it would be offensive
in some other language or culture. 


Too true! there are plenty of hilarious accounts of commercial products 
with names that were highly offensive when exported.




English is not the only language on
the planet.

Owen (not from Aus)
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