[Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie

2007-07-07 Thread David Southwell
Hi

I have installed ports/gimpshop on my fFreebsd 6.1 system. I want to compare 
its functionality with photoshop with which I am extremely familar and use 
extensively on my Win XP system.

I have started gimp and have two  newbie questions.

1. How do I get to start gimpshop? The docs seem to have detailed 
documentation but although I have searched much head scratching -- I seem 
unable to find a page that tells me how to get gimpshop running :-( 

2. I found that gimp will itself will open *.jpg but does not open raw files - 
In my case in need to be able to open canon raw files *.cr2 and would also 
like to be able to open photoshop *.psd files. 

Here is a list of the relevant gimp packages installed and OS version info:

# pkg_info |grep gimp
gimp-2.2.15,2   The meta-port for The Gimp
gimp-help-0.12  GIMP user's manual
gimp-print-4.2.7_3  GIMP Print Printer Driver
gimpshop-2.2.11_5   GIMP fork resembling Adobe Photoshop

# uname -a
FreeBSD --- 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:15:57 UTC 2006
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  amd64

Thanks in advance

david


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[Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp-Stable on Windows?

2007-07-07 Thread Sam Stern
All,

I own a Wacom 12 Serial tablet. When using the current Windows Gimp, I
need to disable GTK tablet recognition thus effectively disabling
Pressure Sensitivity in Gimp (this is a known problem with Windows GTK).
So what tablet(s) can a Windows user use with the Gimp and retain
pressure sensitivity (Tilt and erase would be nice as well!)?

TIA

Sam Stern
Grand Island, New York, USA

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie

2007-07-07 Thread Elwin Estle
Not sure how well GimpShop will run on FreeBSD.  I don't know anything about 
FreeBSD,
myself (I am running Ubuntu Dapper), but I wonder if GimpShop and and the Gimp 
2.2.15 it
looks like you installed will have a conflict.  On windows, GimpShop has been 
pretty much
a bugfest, at Gimptalk, we always tried to steer people away from it, because 
many
complained about its instability, not to mention the fact that asking for help 
in it's
use was rather confusing, since it uses a different menu setup than the regular 
Gimp.  I
know I tried it at one point, because it would install without admin privelages 
on the
computers where I work.  It ran for about a day, then would just open and crash
immediately afterwards.  I got rid of it.

Also, not sure what version of Gimp this latest GimpShop is based on, it most 
likely
isn't the latest stable version.  For the longest time, it was based on Gimp 
2.2.8.

As for Canon RAW files, that's a tricky question.  For starters, Gimp, and most 
likely,
by extension, GimpShop, only supports 8 bit color, so even if you can open a 
RAW file in
Gimp/GimpShop, you aren't going to get all the information.  

However  there is a standalone program, UFRAW, that also can be used as a 
Gimp
plug-in which will load the files and allow some manipulation.  I am not sure 
how the
plugin will work with GimpShop.

There is also DigiKam, which, with appropriate plugins, can handle Canon RAW 
files.  I
have a Rebel XT and this is what I use when I want to mess with RAW files.

--- David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I have installed ports/gimpshop on my fFreebsd 6.1 system. I want to compare 
 its functionality with photoshop with which I am extremely familar and use 
 extensively on my Win XP system.
 
 I have started gimp and have two  newbie questions.
 
 1. How do I get to start gimpshop? The docs seem to have detailed 
 documentation but although I have searched much head scratching -- I seem 
 unable to find a page that tells me how to get gimpshop running :-( 
 
 2. I found that gimp will itself will open *.jpg but does not open raw files 
 - 
 In my case in need to be able to open canon raw files *.cr2 and would also 
 like to be able to open photoshop *.psd files. 
 
 Here is a list of the relevant gimp packages installed and OS version info:
 
 # pkg_info |grep gimp
 gimp-2.2.15,2   The meta-port for The Gimp
 gimp-help-0.12  GIMP user's manual
 gimp-print-4.2.7_3  GIMP Print Printer Driver
 gimpshop-2.2.11_5   GIMP fork resembling Adobe Photoshop
 
 # uname -a
 FreeBSD --- 6.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE #0: Sun May  7 04:15:57 UTC 2006  

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMP  amd64
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 david
 
 
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[Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread Rikard Johnels
This is a logical (?) follow up on Sam Stern's question for Windows.
Is there a good (prefarably large) tablet to use with Linux that provides most 
if not all functionalities? (Eraser/pressure etc.)


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Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread Olivier Lecarme
Rikard Johnels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a logical (?) follow up on Sam Stern's question for Windows.
 Is there a good (prefarably large) tablet to use with Linux that provides 
 most 
 if not all functionalities? (Eraser/pressure etc.)

The Wacom Intuos tablets provide all you want, and in fact more, since
tilt is not recognized by most software products. They come from A6 to
A3 wide, and are very well handled with GNU/Linux, thanks to the
Linuxwacom project. See

   http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/

and the corresponding discussion list.

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Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread Johan Vromans
Olivier Lecarme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The Wacom Intuos tablets provide all you want, and in fact more, 

Is that also true for the older (serial) versions? If so, how to
enable this?

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Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread Olivier Lecarme
Johan Vromans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Olivier Lecarme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  The Wacom Intuos tablets provide all you want, and in fact more, 
 
 Is that also true for the older (serial) versions? If so, how to
 enable this?

I have no experience with a serial tablet, but the linuxwacom project
deals with it too.

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Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread GSR - FR
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2007-07-07 at 1809.55 +0200):
 Olivier Lecarme [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  The Wacom Intuos tablets provide all you want, and in fact more, 
 Is that also true for the older (serial) versions? If so, how to
 enable this?

Serial tablets were even easier to setup than USB have been for some
time as there was less software wanting to take part compared to what
happens now (no serial level driver required while usb does, and no
udev like is typical now), and they worked for all basic features.
Single one I remember not getting was the top buttons (16
programable areas in top edge and two to change pressure response)
which probably were just implemented at the driver level. But
pressure, tilt and so on, pretty good.

OTOH, I remember having some issues with NT driver, and Wacom's reply
was that it had to be that way (it was long time ago, sorry for the
lack of details... I remember placing it with the why do I have to
reboot for this issues tho), no idea if it changed with 2000, etc as
that tablet has been Linux only since.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] What tablet provides pressure sensitivity when used with Gimp under Linux?

2007-07-07 Thread Stephan Hegel
Johan Vromans wrote:
 Is that also true for the older (serial) versions? If so, how to
 enable this?
Olivier provided you already a pointer to the Linux wacom project.
It deals with serial tablets as well and everything is explained
in detail there. Even an extra section is spend on how to enable
this in The Gimp.

So, why didn't you check this out ?

Rgds,
   Stephan.

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