Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-announce] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0

2007-10-24 Thread Eric P
Sven Neumann wrote:
> Version 2.4 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program is finally out.
> 

Congratulations on all the hard work!

Eric P
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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread carol irvin
this is probably going to sound like a really weird solution to a problem
but it has worked for me over the years.  i often wander off the beaten path
though so that tendency may work for someone else too.  if i have an image
that isn't working in the computer, i make the best possible print i can of
it.  then i may go into that print with other (live) media and punch it up
that way.  then i scan the print into the computer and make a new image from
the scan in a file format i like and with a resolution that is better than
what i had.  then i use the image program to adjust the image until it takes
shape as something i want to keep.  usually there is a good chunk of the
original image which still remains so all has not been lost.

i am simply not used to using the native format of the GIMP program.  for
awhile i used to use the native format for photoshop, which was psd.  then i
discovered that a whole bunch of other programs i had would not show a
thumbnail of a psd.  yet they would all show it of a tif.  (this was while i
was using windows as my OS)  so i started using tif and was happy with using
it.  there is some relief in knowing that every single program you have on
your computer will be able to show the image in the tif format.  this is
also true of the jpg, the png and the gif.

carol

On 10/24/07, Chris Mohler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 10/24/07, carol irvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
> > reason. the image came in as
> > a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
> > would have preferred tackling
> > it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was
> given
> > in the problem that a tif was out.
>
> In this case - the "problem JPEG" - re-saving as JPEG would only
> produce more of the same artifacts that were causing grief to the
> engraver.
>
> As a designer I frequently deal with this scenario: "Hi, we need X
> printed on Y and it needs to be Z feet tall.  All I have is this
> (crappy) JPEG (or fax, doc, ppt, etc)". I try this:
>
> 1. is it a corporation?  is the logo on brandsoftheworld.com?
> 2. do they have vector artwork on their web page (hidden in a PDF, etc)?
> 3. is it just a font?  can "what the font" figure it out?
> 4. can I salvage it in GIMP (or PS) or Inkscape?
> 5. redo it :(
>
> Regardless of the solution, the format chosen to save my work in is up
> to me - just because I was _given_ a JPEG, there's no reason for me to
> _save_ it as JPEG later.
>
> Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rant  I guess all I was trying
> to say is that you're not locked into saving as a JPEG just because
> that's all the client has to offer :)
>
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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread Chris Mohler
On 10/24/07, carol irvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
> reason. the image came in as
> a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
> would have preferred tackling
> it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was given
> in the problem that a tif was out.

In this case - the "problem JPEG" - re-saving as JPEG would only
produce more of the same artifacts that were causing grief to the
engraver.

As a designer I frequently deal with this scenario: "Hi, we need X
printed on Y and it needs to be Z feet tall.  All I have is this
(crappy) JPEG (or fax, doc, ppt, etc)". I try this:

1. is it a corporation?  is the logo on brandsoftheworld.com?
2. do they have vector artwork on their web page (hidden in a PDF, etc)?
3. is it just a font?  can "what the font" figure it out?
4. can I salvage it in GIMP (or PS) or Inkscape?
5. redo it :(

Regardless of the solution, the format chosen to save my work in is up
to me - just because I was _given_ a JPEG, there's no reason for me to
_save_ it as JPEG later.

Sorry, this turned into a bit of a rant  I guess all I was trying
to say is that you're not locked into saving as a JPEG just because
that's all the client has to offer :)

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread rcook
> i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
> reason. the image came in as
> a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
> would have preferred tackling
> it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was
> given
> in the problem that a tif was out.



I think as a rule of thumb, that you should always work in the native
format of your program, so if you are using the Gimp,

a. Save the image in the xcf format
b. Do all your work in the xcf format
c. When finished, save in appropriate format for publication


Owen

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image artifacts

2007-10-24 Thread vt
On Wednesday 24 October 2007, Jarlath Reidy wrote:
> I have a friend who uses images sent to him by clients to make
> engravings on various materials. This is a start up business and he is
> having some teething problems.
>
> He has an issue where the boundary between the foreground and the
> background isn't clear cut and the engraving looks smudged around the
> edges.
>
> I've attached a piece of the image which the client sent in jpg format.
> Unfortunately, the typical client is not very computer savvy and asking
> for .tiffs isn't possible.
>
> Any advice here on how to clean up these 'grey areas' would be
> fantastic.
>
> Thanks,
> Jarlath

What is the problem with tifs? Just ask him to save as .tif instead of .jpg 
and that's it.
svg format (Inkscape's native) would suit so much better for logo.

Colors>Posterize might help.

Select>By color, increase threshold and pick white color, then erase it or 
fill with white colour.

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[Gimp-user] Pngs, jpgs, tifs, etc.,

2007-10-24 Thread carol irvin
i too have found myself using pngs a lot more than jpgs and for the same
reason. the image came in as
a jpg though, i went ahead and worked with it as a jpg.  however, i too
would have preferred tackling
it as a png file.  my absolute first choice would be a tif but it was given
in the problem that a tif was out.

carol
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image artifacts

2007-10-24 Thread Chris Mohler
On 10/24/07, Jarlath Reidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a friend who uses images sent to him by clients to make
> engravings on various materials. This is a start up business and he is
> having some teething problems.
>
> He has an issue where the boundary between the foreground and the
> background isn't clear cut and the engraving looks smudged around the
> edges.
>
> I've attached a piece of the image which the client sent in jpg format.
> Unfortunately, the typical client is not very computer savvy and asking
> for .tiffs isn't possible.

Not sure if I understand the question, but I removed the artifacts in
the image in this manner:

1. Convert image to grayscale
2. Adjust Levels - moving the rightmost slider inwards will "clip" the
light-colored artifacts in the background.  Moving the middle slider
to the right will "squash" the dark-colored artifacts in the
foreground.
3. Save as PNG (as JPEG will only re-introduce atrifacts

Optionally
4. Open inkscape and import the new PNG
5. Trace the bitmap and save as SVG

(steps 4-5 can be accomplished in GIMP by selecting the foreground
areas, creating a path from the selection and importing it).

Now he should have a definite foreground/backgound in the PNG and
possibly a SVG that can be scaled up or down without distortion or
added artifacts.  I would guess that in whatever process he's using
for engraving, vector artwork would be preferable (at least that's
what 99% of our vendors want).

This method won't always work - esp. if the JPEG compression is very
high, or the image resolution very low.  Sometimes you have to bite
the bullet and pull out the pen tool :)

Let me know if this helps, or if I missed the point completely...

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.4.0; available for Mac also?

2007-10-24 Thread Scott
On Wednesday 24 October 2007 10:45:26 am carol irvin wrote:
> i'm using GIMP on a Mac.  Is this new version ready for the
> Mac yet or still in the wings?
> thanks,

All that was released today was the source code. Binaries for 
various platforms will come later.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.4.0; available for Mac also?

2007-10-24 Thread Axel Wernicke
You might want to watch Aarons activities at http://gimp-app.sf.net  
closely, where at least a 2.4 RC3 is available.


Greetings, lexA


Am 24.10.2007 um 19:45 schrieb carol irvin:

i'm using GIMP on a Mac.  Is this new version ready for the Mac yet  
or still in the wings?


thanks,

carol




Version 2.4 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program is finally out.

Developers, artists and user interface designers from all over the  
world
worked together to make GIMP more powerful and easier to use than  
ever.

The changes from version 2.2 are described in the release notes on

  http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html

For a more detailed list of changes, please have a look at the  
NEWS file

at http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.4


If you want to compile GIMP 2.4 yourself, you can grab the tarball  
from

ftp.gimp.org or one of its mirrors:

 ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/

Binary packages for the various supported platforms are expected to
become available over the next couple of days. The new gimp.org  
website

will help you to locate the packages for your system:

  http://gimp.org/downloads/


Thanks a lot to everyone who helped to improve GIMP.

The roadmap for GIMP 2.6 will be discussed over the next weeks on the
gimp-developer mailing-list. We can only tell you so much now: It is
going to rock and it shouldn't take as long to get it done as it  
took to

finish GIMP 2.4. If you want to join the effort, your help is much
appreciated.



Happy GIMPing,
Sven


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[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.4.0; available for Mac also?

2007-10-24 Thread carol irvin
i'm using GIMP on a Mac.  Is this new version ready for the Mac yet or still
in the wings?
thanks,

carol


>
> Version 2.4 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program is finally out.
>
> Developers, artists and user interface designers from all over the world
> worked together to make GIMP more powerful and easier to use than ever.
> The changes from version 2.2 are described in the release notes on
>
>   
> http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html
>
> For a more detailed list of changes, please have a look at the NEWS file
> at http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.4
>
>
> If you want to compile GIMP 2.4 yourself, you can grab the tarball from
> ftp.gimp.org or one of its mirrors:
>
>  ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/
>
> Binary packages for the various supported platforms are expected to
> become available over the next couple of days. The new gimp.org website
> will help you to locate the packages for your system:
>
>   http://gimp.org/downloads/
>
>
> Thanks a lot to everyone who helped to improve GIMP.
>
> The roadmap for GIMP 2.6 will be discussed over the next weeks on the
> gimp-developer mailing-list. We can only tell you so much now: It is
> going to rock and it shouldn't take as long to get it done as it took to
> finish GIMP 2.4. If you want to join the effort, your help is much
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Happy GIMPing,
> Sven
>
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[Gimp-user] Image artifacts

2007-10-24 Thread Jarlath Reidy
I have a friend who uses images sent to him by clients to make
engravings on various materials. This is a start up business and he is
having some teething problems.

He has an issue where the boundary between the foreground and the
background isn't clear cut and the engraving looks smudged around the
edges.

I've attached a piece of the image which the client sent in jpg format.
Unfortunately, the typical client is not very computer savvy and asking
for .tiffs isn't possible.

Any advice here on how to clean up these 'grey areas' would be
fantastic.

Thanks,
Jarlath
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[Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0

2007-10-24 Thread Sven Neumann
Version 2.4 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program is finally out.

Developers, artists and user interface designers from all over the world
worked together to make GIMP more powerful and easier to use than ever.
The changes from version 2.2 are described in the release notes on

  http://gimp.org/release-notes/gimp-2.4.html

For a more detailed list of changes, please have a look at the NEWS file
at http://developer.gimp.org/NEWS-2.4


If you want to compile GIMP 2.4 yourself, you can grab the tarball from
ftp.gimp.org or one of its mirrors:

  ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v2.4/

Binary packages for the various supported platforms are expected to
become available over the next couple of days. The new gimp.org website
will help you to locate the packages for your system:

  http://gimp.org/downloads/


Thanks a lot to everyone who helped to improve GIMP.

The roadmap for GIMP 2.6 will be discussed over the next weeks on the
gimp-developer mailing-list. We can only tell you so much now: It is
going to rock and it shouldn't take as long to get it done as it took to
finish GIMP 2.4. If you want to join the effort, your help is much
appreciated.



Happy GIMPing,
Sven


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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.4 releases??

2007-10-24 Thread Teddy Widhi
Today i open distrowatch.com and i see in the "Latest Packages" section have
Gimp 2.4.0, and i try to check in the Gimp.org, its look no announcement
about this stable release of Gimp 2.4. But I already download from Gimp Ftp
site. i will install it tonight.

Thank you for the stable release of GIMP 2.4. hope in the next release of
GIMP more faster development Rock GIMP.!!

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