Hello Gimp Users and Developers,
@Martin Nordholts:
Please do not beg yourself pardon, if answering takes a little longer! I am
VERY happy, that there is feedback from the developers at all :-)
So, back to "business":
> Isn't what you are seeing here simply bug #555493 [1] ? If yes, then
> yeah that is certainly a bug.
I'm not shure if it is the same. I don't have "Resize window on zoom" and
"Resize window on image size
change" enabled, nor do I use the crop tool, as it is described in #555493. But
the result is comparable (but not the exactly the SAME).
> Since other use cases rely on that typing "1" does *not* use the cursor
> as the zoom focus point (which was what bug #553534 [2] was all about),
> I suggest you instead zoom out with the "-" key which *does* use the
> mouse cursor as the zoom focus point, or make use of the Zoom Revert
> functionality (View -> Zoom -> Revert Zoom, default shortcut key is "`").
Using "Minus Key" is slow, because I have to type it several times, until I
reach 100%. Using "Zoom Revert" doesn't do it either, because it also don't
sends me back to 100%.
I see that an average user, that doesn't know the zoom behavior as good, could
be irritated by the old behavior (due to bug #555493 he might be even more now
;-). But why not allow the old behavior (via operator key) for users that do
know what they are doing? For me, that would be a large improvement (ALT key
would fit my hand the best ;-)...
I think, we must divide my issue into two issues coming together:
1.) The centering issue, that could be #555493, or a relative to it.
2.) The "new" behavior, that the "1" key doesn't use cursor as center of zoom.
Point 1 was already present in 2.6, but wasn't much of a problem to me, since I
had the cursor on the right position. With introduction of patch for bug
#553534, it became a problem for me to, because now I'm affected by problem 1
too.
So, how can we find out, if my problems with "seeing image corners in image
window after zoomout" IS bug
#555493, or just a related bug?
And shall I write my arguments for a zoom operator key again into Bug 553534
(centering issues after image scaling and setting zoom to 100%)?
Sincerely, Claus Berghammer
Martin Nordholts schrieb:
> Claus Berghammer wrote:
>> When I zoomed in with 2.6.0, put the cursor on the "pixels of interest", and
>> type "1", the pixels of interest WAS at (or close to) the cursor (as
>> expected). Now, with 2.6.1, the "pixels of interest" are somewhere, but not
>> by far close to the cursor. Instead I always see the corner which is closest
>> to the "pixels of interest" centered in the window.
>>
>
> Hi
>
> Isn't what you are seeing here simply bug #555493 [1] ? If yes, then
> yeah that is certainly a bug.
>
>> I open a "larger" picture (1944x2592px), where "red eyes" has to be removed.
>> That for, I zoom into the eyes with the zoom tool. Then I draw a freehand
>> selection on every eye that needs to be changed. To see the effect of the
>> following step at 100%, I type "1" while the cursor is between the two eyes.
>> With 2.6 the eyes were centered in the image window now, and was able to
>> proceed without any extra panning.
>
> Since other use cases rely on that typing "1" does *not* use the cursor
> as the zoom focus point (which was what bug #553534 [2] was all about),
> I suggest you instead zoom out with the "-" key which *does* use the
> mouse cursor as the zoom focus point, or make use of the Zoom Revert
> functionality (View -> Zoom -> Revert Zoom, default shortcut key is "`").
>
>> The zoom button instead always centers the image in the image window, which
>> is slightly more compelling to me than centering a image corner in the
>> window, but still not the perfect way.
>>
>> I would like to have the following behavior:
>>
>> - Zooming out with cursor IN the image window -> center the pixels under the
>> cursor in the image window, image borders should be ignored.
>> - Zooming out with mouse outside image window -> pixels in the center of the
>> image window should remain the pixels in the center of the image window,
>> image borders should be ?.
>>
>
> If you by "zoom button" mean the "-" or "+" key, then this is how it
> currently behaves. And actually it is an open question if it *should*
> behave that way or if the image coordinate under the cursor should
> *always* be the zoom focus point, independent of if the cursor is within
> the image window canvas or not. That is how GIMP 2.4 behaves. The way it
> currently works in GIMP 2.6 was introduced before the image was made (in
> the middle of GIMP 2.5 development) to center itself in the viewport if
> it becomes small enough to fit there when zooming out . In other words,
> there is no real reason to keep the new behaviour here.
>
>> For the thing with image borders, how about introducing a operator key for
>> zooming? Currently ALT and SHIFT doesn't seem to have a function while
>> zooming, so one of these keys