Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 02:53 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 In KDE's KolourPaint one can open the Text tool, add text, and move
 the text insert location while the text is in edit mode. How does one
 do this in Gimp?

You open the text tool, add text and move the text using your mouse or
the cursor keys. How does one do this in KolourPaint?


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 02:53 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:
 In KDE's KolourPaint one can open the Text tool, add text, and move
 the text insert location while the text is in edit mode. How does one
 do this in Gimp?

 You open the text tool, add text and move the text using your mouse or
 the cursor keys. How does one do this in KolourPaint?


Thanks, Sven. It seems that on my system (Kubuntu 8.04) one must close
the window labeled Gimp Text Editor in order to move the text. In
KolourPaint there is no separate text window, rather, the user opens a
text box in a fashion similar to the Select tool, and types directly
in it. The dimensions and placement of the text box in KolourPaint can
be dynamically resized via the mouse while the text is being edited.

Although I can use and get used to the Gimp behaviour, I prefer the
intuitive and versatile method presented in KolourPaint. As I am new
to Gimp, would it be a waste of developers' time to file an
Enhancement Request? I know that projects like KDE love these types of
usability requests, and other projects such as Mozilla hate them. In
which camp does Gimp lay?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 14:07 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 Thanks, Sven. It seems that on my system (Kubuntu 8.04) one must close
 the window labeled Gimp Text Editor in order to move the text.

I don't see why you would have to close that window in order to move the
text.  What keeps you from moving the text if the text editor window is
open?

  In
 KolourPaint there is no separate text window, rather, the user opens a
 text box in a fashion similar to the Select tool, and types directly
 in it. The dimensions and placement of the text box in KolourPaint can
 be dynamically resized via the mouse while the text is being edited.

GIMP in trunk already allows on-canvas text editing. This will be in
GIMP 2.8.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks, Sven. It seems that on my system (Kubuntu 8.04) one must close
 the window labeled Gimp Text Editor in order to move the text.

 I don't see why you would have to close that window in order to move the
 text.  What keeps you from moving the text if the text editor window is
 open?


After more experimentation, I see that this is the situation:
If I click the canvas outside the text field, then the Gimp Text
Editor window gets focus and I cannot move the text with the keyboard
(nor the mouse, because I was not clicking on the text field). If I
click the canvas on the in the text field, then I can move the text
field with the arrow keys, but I still cannot drag it with the mouse.

 GIMP in trunk already allows on-canvas text editing. This will be in
 GIMP 2.8.


Excellent, thanks! However, the more general question stands: do the
Gimp devs take kindly to feature requests regarding the usability of
Gimp's tools? Or should I not even bother and waste their time?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Martin Nordholts
Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 Excellent, thanks! However, the more general question stands: do the
 Gimp devs take kindly to feature requests regarding the usability of
 Gimp's tools? Or should I not even bother and waste their time?
   

The developers appreciate high quality usability feedback which should
go to the gimp-developer mailing list. We don't like people to file
enhancement request to the bug tracker before they have been discussed
on the mailing list however.

- Martin
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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread sablade08
I thought that was just because I was using the MAC version.  Actually, I
find I can only move the text with the arrow keys while any use of the
mouse closes the box to editing regardless of where one clicks.

On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:04:38 +0200, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks, Sven. It seems that on my system (Kubuntu 8.04) one must close
 the window labeled Gimp Text Editor in order to move the text.

 I don't see why you would have to close that window in order to move the
 text.  What keeps you from moving the text if the text editor window is
 open?

 
 After more experimentation, I see that this is the situation:
 If I click the canvas outside the text field, then the Gimp Text
 Editor window gets focus and I cannot move the text with the keyboard
 (nor the mouse, because I was not clicking on the text field). If I
 click the canvas on the in the text field, then I can move the text
 field with the arrow keys, but I still cannot drag it with the mouse.
 
 GIMP in trunk already allows on-canvas text editing. This will be in
 GIMP 2.8.

 
 Excellent, thanks! However, the more general question stands: do the
 Gimp devs take kindly to feature requests regarding the usability of
 Gimp's tools? Or should I not even bother and waste their time?
 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/11/15 Martin Nordholts [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Dotan Cohen wrote:
 2008/11/15 Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Excellent, thanks! However, the more general question stands: do the
 Gimp devs take kindly to feature requests regarding the usability of
 Gimp's tools? Or should I not even bother and waste their time?


 The developers appreciate high quality usability feedback which should
 go to the gimp-developer mailing list. We don't like people to file
 enhancement request to the bug tracker before they have been discussed
 on the mailing list however.


Thanks, Martin. I will consider signing up at that list.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Moving text while typing it.

2008-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 16:04 +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote:

 After more experimentation, I see that this is the situation:
 If I click the canvas outside the text field, then the Gimp Text
 Editor window gets focus and I cannot move the text with the keyboard
 (nor the mouse, because I was not clicking on the text field).

If you are clicking outside the text, then you are creating a new text
layer. Of course the text tool can only move the currently active text.

 If I click the canvas on the in the text field, then I can move the
 text field with the arrow keys, but I still cannot drag it with the
 mouse.

Why not? Works just fine here.


Sven


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[Gimp-user] gimp 2.6 - separate+

2008-11-15 Thread Bernhard S.
Hello,

I've been trying to use the seperate+-plugin recently with gimp2.6 to create
CMYK tiff images... it's currently not working for me. is there a way to use
it with gimp 2.6? i can compile it after installing libtiff-dev and
libgimp2.0-dev, but after installing it, gimp tells me the following error
msg: ...uses an obsolete version of the plugin-protocol

OS: Ubuntu 8.04

is there any way to use it with 2.6 already?

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.6 - separate+

2008-11-15 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

On Sat, 2008-11-15 at 21:43 +0100, Bernhard S. wrote:

 I've been trying to use the seperate+-plugin recently with gimp2.6 to create
 CMYK tiff images... it's currently not working for me. is there a way to use
 it with gimp 2.6? i can compile it after installing libtiff-dev and
 libgimp2.0-dev, but after installing it, gimp tells me the following error
 msg: ...uses an obsolete version of the plugin-protocol

It should work just fine with GIMP 2.6, even without recompiling it. But
it looks like your plug-in picks up an old version of the GIMP
libraries. Do you perhaps still have gimp-2.4 installed somewhere?


Sven


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