Re: [Gimp-user] GAP for version 2.6.2

2008-12-12 Thread Olivier Lecarme
> About solutions first i will like to be sure that Filter all layer-variyng 
> and Frame modify-apply filter-variyng work both correctly on linux, and
> same for "split imagine in frames"

I just tested Image: Filters -> Filter all layers (varying) on a Debian
Sid installation with GIMP 2.6.2 and the same version of GAP I used
without problem for GIMP 2.4. Indeed I get a huge lot of error messages
similat to this one:

GIMP: Calling error for procedure 'gimp-procedural-db-proc-info':
Procedure 'plug-in-gauss-iir-Iterator' not found

However, testing this with the Gaussian blur filter, I got what I
expected, i.e. an animation with a varying blur.

About Image: Video -> Frames Modify, the entry Function -> Apply filter
on layer(s) simply does not work, the list of filters does not pop up.

-- 


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[Gimp-user] Having serious problems with profiling my monitor

2008-12-12 Thread Leonard Evens
Last year, I managed to profile my Samsung 226CW monitor using an
Eye-One LT under Fedora 7 and the argylcms programs.   When I told gimp
what the display profile was, the results looked plausible.  At that
time I was using an early version of gimp 2.4.

But my monitor dimmed somewhat, and I wanted to redo the
calibration/profiling.   But it doesn't seem to be working.   I also
tried the same thing with a laptop running Ubuntu 8.04, and had similar
problems.   

The process produces a calibration (look up table) which is loaded into
the video card and also a profile which a program such as gimp can  use
to tell the display how to interpret colors.  There are two ways to tell
gimp about the display profile, but it doesn't seem to matter which I
use.  What happens on both machines is that gimp seems to be negating
the calibration (look up table) in the video card and then perhaps
applying some profiling to the result.  So what I get with a gray scale
is the whatever tint the screen had without the look up table loaded;
red-magenta for the Fedora machine and blue-cyan for the laptop display.

So either I keep doing something entirely idiotic, or gimp color
management is doing the wrong thing.  The versions of gimp I've been
having this problem with are 2.4% and up.  My current Fedora version is
2.6.3.

Supposedly Eye of Gnome can also use a display profile, and it in fact
it doesn't show such an effect. The gray scales look plausible, but they
might anyway, just with the calibration loaded in the video card and no
profiling. But, if Eye of Gnome allows for color management, I would
expect it to say something about it and possibly allow some
configuration, and I can't see any indication that it is doing that.

Is there some other method independent of gimp to check whether the
profiling is working?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.
-- 
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Mathematics Department, Northwestern University

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Re: [Gimp-user] GAP for version 2.6.2

2008-12-12 Thread David Gowers
On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Alchemie fotografiche
 wrote:
>
> "David Gowers" wrote
>
>
>> It's perfectly capable of working with GIMP 2.6 -- I
>> have installed it
>> here, with no need for anything unusual.
>
>> However, chances are nothing is wrong at all and your
>> GIMP-GAP is
>> fully functional.
>
> I fear not
>
> Actually i'm hosting the Windows installer of gap 2.4 BUT I'm not sure that 
> is fully functional with Gimp-2.6, on the contrary i found, and i had reports 
> of some serious bugs(only if used with gimp 2.6)
>
> I didn't report yet to bugzilla only because the Windows installer of GAP 2.4 
> is not "official" so i'm not sure is supported, but others should have
> anyway  already reported to bugzilla some problems
>
>
> Most evident bugs i found are with "Filter all layers-apply variyng" and with 
> Frame Modify_Apply filter on Frames_apply variyng"
>
> First a lot of warning pop out about missed iter procedures, then strange 
> things may happens...
Yes, happens for me too.


> Note that i refer here only to use of gimp build in filters that on gimp 2.4 
> were all correctly animated...and the errors are not that i will expect
>
> I will expect in case of errors only first and last frames be edited, or 
> none, while the filter is applied often to  random numbers of frames in
> random positions in the layerstack , and not to all frames

For me, all frames are fully blurred but I am only prompted twice for
radius values.
I don't know whether this is correct or not, since I haven't used
'apply varying' at all before.

For 'filter all layers', when I use 'dog' filter, most of my layers
become empty.

But, I have to mention -- this function never worked correctly for me
at all. It was always complaining and behaving weirdly, whether in
gimp 2.2, 2.3, 2.4, 2.5 or 2.6.
So I think nothing has actually changed.

>
> not always but sometimes the other frames are screwed up (i.e with gaussian 
> blur i had 40% frames blurred but the other instead then blurred were  
> heavily pixelated on the hightlights)
>
> Even more puzzling for me some filters i.e gaussian blur sometimes works as 
> should, sometimes not and that on similar groups of frames
>
> more detail here 
> http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/filter-all-layers-not-working--p258098.html
>
> Another but much less relevant problem is with split imagine into frames, 
> with gimp 2.6 to be displayed is not the first but the last frame
>
>
> May be other problems, since Apply filter on frames is essential to my 
> workflow i didn't check further
>
>
> PS my pc is a dual core, with xp fully updated and 2gb ram
> i had no problems with a much less performing notebook but with gimp 2.6
>
> ---
>
> About solutions first i will like to be sure that Filter all layer-variyng 
> and Frame modify-apply filter-variyng work both correctly on linux, and
> same for "split imagine in frames"

Split image into frames gives me a lot of black frames with apparently
no content. I suspect this is because it doesn't bother to set the
colormap for each frame, and my source image is indexed. If I convert
to RGB
first, this doesn't happen.
It does display the last frame rather than the first.

Also, it doesn't bother to copy the icc-profile parasite, so the
resulting images are displayed with wrong colors. (this probably
doesn't effect you)

David
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[Gimp-user] text color

2008-12-12 Thread schoappied
Hi,

How do I change the inserted text color?

Thanks,

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Re: [Gimp-user] apparent bug in Gimp 2.6.3, Help

2008-12-12 Thread Leonard Evens
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 14:57 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote:
> I was just automatically upgraded under Fedora 9 to Gimp 2.6.3.
> 
> Help keeps crashing. It comes up with the first page on the right and a
> window with contents on the left.  clicking on an item on the left has
> no effect.  Clicking on any link on the right crashes.  Also, clicking
> on the icon in the upper right which is supposed to take you to the gimp
> website crashes.
> 
> When I run it from the command line, I get
> /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: fatal error: Segmentation fault
> 
> 
> So it appears to be unusable at present.  Of course, I can go the gimp
> documentation web site and read it there, but that is less convenient.
> 
> Is this known and in the process of being fixed, or, should I report it
> to the gimp bugzilla?

It wasn't listed as a new bug, at least as far as I could see, so I
submitted it.

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[Gimp-user] apparent bug in Gimp 2.6.3, Help

2008-12-12 Thread Leonard Evens
I was just automatically upgraded under Fedora 9 to Gimp 2.6.3.

Help keeps crashing. It comes up with the first page on the right and a
window with contents on the left.  clicking on an item on the left has
no effect.  Clicking on any link on the right crashes.  Also, clicking
on the icon in the upper right which is supposed to take you to the gimp
website crashes.

When I run it from the command line, I get
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/help-browser: fatal error: Segmentation fault


So it appears to be unusable at present.  Of course, I can go the gimp
documentation web site and read it there, but that is less convenient.

Is this known and in the process of being fixed, or, should I report it
to the gimp bugzilla?
-- 
Leonard Evens 
Mathematics Department, Northwestern University

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[Gimp-user] GAP for version 2.6.2

2008-12-12 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche

"David Gowers" wrote


> It's perfectly capable of working with GIMP 2.6 -- I
> have installed it
> here, with no need for anything unusual.

> However, chances are nothing is wrong at all and your
> GIMP-GAP is
> fully functional.

I fear not

Actually i'm hosting the Windows installer of gap 2.4 BUT I'm not sure that is 
fully functional with Gimp-2.6, on the contrary i found, and i had reports of 
some serious bugs(only if used with gimp 2.6)

I didn't report yet to bugzilla only because the Windows installer of GAP 2.4 
is not "official" so i'm not sure is supported, but others should have
anyway  already reported to bugzilla some problems


Most evident bugs i found are with "Filter all layers-apply variyng" and with 
Frame Modify_Apply filter on Frames_apply variyng"

First a lot of warning pop out about missed iter procedures, then strange 
things may happens...
Note that i refer here only to use of gimp build in filters that on gimp 2.4 
were all correctly animated...and the errors are not that i will expect

I will expect in case of errors only first and last frames be edited, or none, 
while the filter is applied often to  random numbers of frames in 
random positions in the layerstack , and not to all frames

not always but sometimes the other frames are screwed up (i.e with gaussian 
blur i had 40% frames blurred but the other instead then blurred were  heavily 
pixelated on the hightlights)

Even more puzzling for me some filters i.e gaussian blur sometimes works as 
should, sometimes not and that on similar groups of frames

more detail here 
http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/filter-all-layers-not-working--p258098.html

Another but much less relevant problem is with split imagine into frames, with 
gimp 2.6 to be displayed is not the first but the last frame


May be other problems, since Apply filter on frames is essential to my workflow 
i didn't check further


PS my pc is a dual core, with xp fully updated and 2gb ram
i had no problems with a much less performing notebook but with gimp 2.6

---

About solutions first i will like to be sure that Filter all layer-variyng and 
Frame modify-apply filter-variyng work both correctly on linux, and
same for "split imagine in frames"

If i may be certain that is a problem only of the windows version i may search 
help to recompile against gimp 2.6..

but first...someone may check on linux,please?
better on big imagines with many frames where this problem show up more often.




  
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[Gimp-user] GAP for version 2.6.2

2008-12-12 Thread Alchemie foto\grafiche
Davids Gowens wrote
> It's perfectly capable of working with GIMP 2.6 -- I
> have installed it

i didn't check yet on linux but i noticed several problems running GAP with 
gimp 2.6

I'm hosting the last version of GAP available for windows the 2.4, but binary 
was compiled for gimp 2.4, maybe should be recompiled again.

the most evidents problem i noticed are with "Filter all layers"
and "Frame Modify-apply filter " using the Apply variyng " option

First quite a lot of warning are then displayed about missed plugin-iter files,
then with my surprise (should be impossible if the iterator procedures were 
missed as reported from warnings)many filters works, other not as they should, 
even more strange some sometimes work, sometimes not

To puntualize i'm talking about filter included in gimp (as Gaussian blur)
and the errors i get is not that i will expect:
I will expect in case of error only the first and last frame be  correctly 
edited and not the ones in between.

Instead a random numbers of frames or layer , in random positions on the 
layerstack are correctly edited

in few cases(with gaussian blur) some frames are blurred but the others are 
screwed up by a weird kind of pixelations on the hightlight.

Other problem, less serious but disturbing is with "split imagine into 
frames"...after is displayed not the first but the last frame

we had some discussion on Gimptalk since others reported similar problems, 
i.e http://www.gimptalk.com/forum/filter-all-layers-not-working--p258098.html i 
did not report to bugzilla yet, because the windows version of gap2.4 is not a 
official build so i'm not sure is supported

I hope you may help, i may ask help to recompile GAP, but first i want be sure 
that this ,( and maybe other problems i didn't check, for my workflow  Frame 
Modify is fundamental, if that do not work, i have few reason to use the other 
gap plugins.

so i will like to know if in linux "frame modify-appy filters-variyng", "split 
imagine in frames" and the encoder work without bugs with gimp 2.6


Once i know  for sure that are problems only of the windows version,  i can 
search help to recompile gap



  
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update and script-fu doesn't work

2008-12-12 Thread a...@storm
saulgo...@flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com said the following on 
2008-12-12 16:19:

> 
> Updated script:  
> http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/Temp/Reworked-FinishJob.scm

Great!!! It works perfect 4 me! Big thanks :)

> I believe the most significant problem you were experiencing is that  
> the action of flattening your image results in a newly created layer  
> and all the original layers disappear; i.e., the original "Drawable"  
> value that you were using in your 'file-jpeg-save' call was no longer  
> valid after the script flattened the image.

It is dificult to say.. I have seen syntax error, or... no action, 
but I believe U R right.

> It is not possible to perform step 3e) --  scripts can only close  
> images which they themselves open or create. Images that are opened or  
> created from the menus must be closed from the menus.

Lets say if it is impossible than I have to find a benefit... 
think... think... well, there is benefit:
I have "undo" working and if something is wrong with a picture (i.e 
to heavy sharpen) I can go step back and make all things manually.
Kind of final check out. In this point it will be better when 
displayed image is viewed 100% (1:1). It is one command... but I do 
not remember...

> The updated script will result in the image being marked as saved, so  
> that closing the image does not generate a warning about losing  
> changes. I am not entirely comfortable about doing this because not  
> ALL image changes are saved with the JPEG format and closing your  
> image after running the script will result in the loss of some  
> information -- e.g., any channels or paths you've created, as well as  
> the degradation of the picture owing to JPEG's lossy compression.  
> Nonetheless, given your work flow, it seems appropriate as long as you  
> remain aware of this limitation. If you should prefer to still be  
> warned about losing data then remove the line which calls  
> 'gimp-image-clean-all'.

Your notes are very important, thank U. But I know the limitation of 
.jpg files. This way I make just for one puprpose: network preview 
of real estate, for example: 
http://www.burg.com.pl/mieszkanie/sprzedaz/59192/

For printed matters I can work one or two (or more) hours with each 
image and no script is necessary :)

One more time - thanks.

Adam.



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Re: [Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread peter kostov
simon wrote:
>> No, for upscaling Lanczos is the choice. ImageMagick provides many 
>> algorithms and I have made many tests for enlarging a picture.
>> Peter
>>>
> 
> 
> Thanks for all the quick replies. I'll give that imagemagick a try tonight or
> tomorrow. 

Lanczos is possible in Gimp too :) - the third option - Sinc(Lanczos)

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[Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread simon

>No, for upscaling Lanczos is the choice. ImageMagick provides many 
>algorithms and I have made many tests for enlarging a picture.
>Peter
>> 
>> 


Thanks for all the quick replies. I'll give that imagemagick a try tonight or
tomorrow. 
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Re: [Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread peter kostov
a...@storm wrote:
> simon said the following on 2008-12-12 15:47:
>> Will this not make the image blocky?
> 
> I don't think so. Rather blurry. But your background is not sharp, 
> crisp and spicy. That's why I suggest to skip some work with 
> creating background, cutting computer etc.
> Try and see. If it doesn't work, or U affraid of quality -
> redo image as Jermej says.
> 
> U can try few different interpolation method.
> But probabelly bicubic is the best one.
> 
> A.
No, for upscaling Lanczos is the choice. ImageMagick provides many 
algorithms and I have made many tests for enlarging a picture.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update and script-fu doesn't work

2008-12-12 Thread saulgoode
Quoting "a...@storm" :

> Chris Mohler said the following on 2008-12-09 19:25:
>
>  > Yes - there have been changes - if you post your script-fu here,
>  > someone might help you update it.
>  >
> Okay, pasted script lost text formating in e-mail.
> So I put it here:
> http://ak-studio.com.pl/adam/gimp/FinishJob.scm
> and here:
> http://ak-studio.com.pl/adam/gimp/FinishJob.txt
>
> I need some help. First off all - how to modify this script to run
> properly in new enviroment (error msg: unbound variable...). I
> suppose the probblem is in set! operator in few lines on beginning
> of script.

Updated script:  
http://flashingtwelve.brickfilms.com/GIMP/Scripts/Temp/Reworked-FinishJob.scm

> Another question is "How to save opened jpg image" at the end of
> script. I've tried to do it by myself, but after one month I gived
> up. Only thing I can do is read file name. Nothing more

I believe the most significant problem you were experiencing is that  
the action of flattening your image results in a newly created layer  
and all the original layers disappear; i.e., the original "Drawable"  
value that you were using in your 'file-jpeg-save' call was no longer  
valid after the script flattened the image.

> My everyday work is:
> 1) double click on existing .jpg file
> 2) make some retouching on picture, fix colors, geometry etc
> 3) when image is ready I would like script to do:
>   a) scale image to 400 pxl height (perfect for target www)
>   b) sharpen image (factor 40 - is great for my cameras)
>   c) flatten image (than is ready for save .jpg)
>   d) save file, exactly save, not save As - raw copy is still saved
>  on camera flash card
>   e) close image

It is not possible to perform step 3e) --  scripts can only close  
images which they themselves open or create. Images that are opened or  
created from the menus must be closed from the menus.

The updated script will result in the image being marked as saved, so  
that closing the image does not generate a warning about losing  
changes. I am not entirely comfortable about doing this because not  
ALL image changes are saved with the JPEG format and closing your  
image after running the script will result in the loss of some  
information -- e.g., any channels or paths you've created, as well as  
the degradation of the picture owing to JPEG's lossy compression.  
Nonetheless, given your work flow, it seems appropriate as long as you  
remain aware of this limitation. If you should prefer to still be  
warned about losing data then remove the line which calls  
'gimp-image-clean-all'.



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Re: [Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread a...@storm
simon said the following on 2008-12-12 15:47:
> 
> Will this not make the image blocky?

I don't think so. Rather blurry. But your background is not sharp, 
crisp and spicy. That's why I suggest to skip some work with 
creating background, cutting computer etc.
Try and see. If it doesn't work, or U affraid of quality -
redo image as Jermej says.

U can try few different interpolation method.
But probabelly bicubic is the best one.

A.

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[Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread simon

>Previous answer from Jernej is correct.
>But when I take a look at your flyer I see, that critical point is 
>white letters on the background. If U have possibility to remove 
>letters (or have background image without letters) just resample 
>(scale) image up to 300dpi, and put the text again on it. Maybe U 
>save some work and time this way.
>
>A.
>


Will this not make the image blocky?
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Re: [Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread a...@storm
simon said the following on 2008-12-12 15:01:
> I was hoping beyond hope that i wouldn't have to do it again.
> Oh well the first time was a learning experience, I should be able to do it
> faster this time.

Previous answer from Jernej is correct.
But when I take a look at your flyer I see, that critical point is 
white letters on the background. If U have possibility to remove 
letters (or have background image without letters) just resample 
(scale) image up to 300dpi, and put the text again on it. Maybe U 
save some work and time this way.

A.
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[Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread simon
I was hoping beyond hope that i wouldn't have to do it again.
Oh well the first time was a learning experience, I should be able to do it
faster this time.
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Re: [Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread Jernej Simončič
On Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:17:18 +0100 (CET), simon wrote:

> What do i need to do to get the higher dpi?

Redo the flyer at 874x1240 pixels, which makes out to 74x105mm at 300 DPI.
Don't just resize the existing image, as that will either make the image
blurred, or blocky when printed.

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< Contact address: >< jernej simoncic at isg si >

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[Gimp-user] dpi problem

2008-12-12 Thread simon
I recently created a A7(74mmx105mm) flyer using gimp and sent the image to a
print company who replied with:

The artwork you have sent is only 72dpi.  Therefore, too low resolution to
print from.  Ideally artwork should be 300dpi.

Here is the image:
http://www.imageox.com/image/354977-GetAttachm.jpeg

What do i need to do to get the higher dpi?

Any help would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Si.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp update and script-fu doesn't work

2008-12-12 Thread a...@storm
Chris Mohler said the following on 2008-12-09 19:25:

 > Yes - there have been changes - if you post your script-fu here,
 > someone might help you update it.
 >
Okay, pasted script lost text formating in e-mail.
So I put it here:
http://ak-studio.com.pl/adam/gimp/FinishJob.scm
and here:
http://ak-studio.com.pl/adam/gimp/FinishJob.txt

I need some help. First off all - how to modify this script to run 
properly in new enviroment (error msg: unbound variable...). I 
suppose the probblem is in set! operator in few lines on beginning 
of script.
When script was working (2.2.10) it saved me lot of time

Another question is "How to save opened jpg image" at the end of 
script. I've tried to do it by myself, but after one month I gived 
up. Only thing I can do is read file name. Nothing more

My everyday work is:
1) double click on existing .jpg file
2) make some retouching on picture, fix colors, geometry etc
3) when image is ready I would like script to do:
  a) scale image to 400 pxl height (perfect for target www)
  b) sharpen image (factor 40 - is great for my cameras)
  c) flatten image (than is ready for save .jpg)
  d) save file, exactly save, not save As - raw copy is still saved
 on camera flash card
  e) close image

If somebody can help me I will be grateful to

TIA
-- 
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