Re: [Gimp-user] smooth fine stroke

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:49 AM, bob for...@gimpusers.com wrote:
 Is it just my eye? My monitor perhaps?
 Or can I get the stroke to appear to be finer?

Try stoking your path using Paintbrush as the method. Before doing
that, select the paintbrush tool, and pick a 1px round brush. See if
that works for you. It produces very smooth output for me.

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[Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Deniz Dogan
Lately, I've been thinking whether the way I make bordered boxes with
rounded corners is the best one or if I'm missing something
essential.

The way I do it is:
1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.
2. Fill it with the color I want the border to have.
3. Shrink the selection by as many pixels as I want the border to take up.
4. Fill the new selection with the box background color.

What ways are there to accomplish it? Are there any cons to using the
method I use? I'm asking because I recently wrote a little Script-Fu
for doing just this, since I do it so often.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 The way I do it is:
 1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.

2. Select - Border...
3. Fill new selection with color
4. Enjoy. :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The way I do it is:
 1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.

Sorry, missed one step:

1a: Fill the selection with color.

 2. Select - Border...
 3. Fill new selection with color
 4. Enjoy. :)

+ it might be entirely possible to do a script that does this
automatically. It could take border with from the user, and use FG/BG
color to fill the selections.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Deniz Dogan
2010/6/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 The way I do it is:
 1. Use the rounded rectangle selection to make a rectangle.

 Sorry, missed one step:

 1a: Fill the selection with color.

 2. Select - Border...
 3. Fill new selection with color
 4. Enjoy. :)

 + it might be entirely possible to do a script that does this
 automatically. It could take border with from the user, and use FG/BG
 color to fill the selections.

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I used to try it your way before, but I always get jagged edges on
the border when I try that.

This is what I get when I do a rounded rectangle with a 5 pixel corner
radius, black background and white edge using your technique:
http://pici.se/pictures/fWkVUUfxo.png
This is what I get when I do it my way: http://pici.se/pictures/xFAQhXVbC.png

Is there something I'm missing?

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Cameron Gregory c...@bloke.com wrote:
 In some cases there is also out by one problem.

 Here is a patch for said issue (most noticeable when rounding is 100% (trying 
 to make a pill)

 http://blog.bloke.com/2010/05/patch-for-gimp-select-rounded-rectangle/

The most straightforward way to create a pixel-perfect rounded
rectangle with border I can think of is to use Inkscape
(http://www.inkscape.org/) and import the SVG into Gimp. You get
perfect control over the rounding and border weight + the
rasterization of the SVG eliminates the jaggedness.

Another way I can think of is to convert the rounded selection to
path, stroke it to create the border. This produces acceptable
results, but I've noticed some weird artifacts.

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[Gimp-user] Notes of the GIMP BOF meeting at the LGM 2010

2010-06-02 Thread Simon Budig
Hi all.

Thanks to all attendants to the LGM 2010, it was a tremendous
conference, I enjoyed it a lot.

And thanks to the organizers for coming up with the note taking
service: for our GIMP BOF agnez did jot down what was discussed, thanks
a lot for this.

I mostly left the notes unedited, except for filling in some missing
names. If you attended the BOF please feel free to fill in stuff you
feel is missing, and if one of the non-attendants wants to have some
clarification, please ask on the mailinglist.

Thanks,
Simon

annual gimp developer meeting
organizational meeting

collecting topics
agenda
- decide about future gimp website
www.gimp.org not updated any more...
and other sites
- improve to get non developers involved
- merchandising, gimp brand
- introduce google summer of code project
- coming gimp releases, generic chat about releases
- group photo



introductions
- Michael [schumaml], building gimps on windows admin german gimp forum,
  taking care about agenda, organise summer of code...
- Peter [guiguru], interaction architect, effort of renovating gimp ui,
  multiprocess
- Alexia [Death], estonia, paint tools,
- Simon [nomis], 13 years gimp involvement, no current projects
- Tobias [tobi], gimp user since 1.2, moderator german gimp forum
- Alexander [prokudine], using since99, technical support for russian
  users , russian documentation
- Agnez, note taker
- Tor [tml], finnalnd, no gimp involvement, gtk on windows
- Øyvind [pippin], gegl project
- Lukáš, krita, here for steeling gimp ideas
- Boudewijn, krita, here to see how gimp community works
- Michael [Bat`O] student, contributing code
- Joao, trying to keep functionalities
- Akkana [akk], user support, writing books about gimp
- Jakub [jimmac], not involved for over a year, getting into the dialogue


-- future of gimp websites
www.gimp.org, current release announced there is not up to date. the
site is running on a replacement system, parts of the site are broken
for several months, not going to be fixed on the actual server,
- same problem for wiki, spammed and not maintained, down now
- needed: new server, rent server service, no problem to pay,
dedicated server,
- needed: admin or maintainer is needed
paying someone full time is not foreseen, no one feels responsible for
taking care of this problem at the moment
- site maintainer needed

- hard deadline needed?
- who owns the domains? - Shawn Amundson, old gimp member, can
be asked to redirect or create sub-domains without problem

?? set up a gimp foundation? there was a call for ideas and actions,
no feedback came fo that idea
domain name should be owned by a foundation
- problem that Shawn owns the domain name? no problem per se, it
worked fine for yeas, but would be more appropriate via gimp
foundation.

money is not a problem, flow of donations is large, need to figure out
how to spend it. the money is there for a sysadmin

- hardware is more pressing problem than domain name discussion
- dedicated server

- existing custom build system for the websites
- buying hardware, or renting server, not important
- what hosting company? what software?
- hi traffic shouldn't be a problem, good quality hosting needed, not
choosing the cheapest!!!

?? who is going to lead the web projects?
traditionally : if someone starts to take a responsibility many will
follow and take decisions.
- alexia can take over some responsibilities, has been doing some of
[admin work] before, take care of technical part
- organizing migration to new technical hardware
- who asks Shawn about dns matters. joao can take care of that?

- choosing a hosting provider, do we care about the hosting country?
no us.
export regulations
autralia?

what can be taken of the site? what is going to be maintained?
some parts have been sleeping for a while
www top priority
registry.gimp.org for uploading scripts and other resources. has been
started by someone not close to gimp community but working good. has
been drowned by it's success, heavy to use,

?? www.gimp.org running on a cms system? we need internationalization!!
more system admin work?
no complicated roles for contributers!! blocking everywhere
take out the static part, throw away the python part, making adding
news easy
dynamic and localize

site that can involve people into gimp (content contributors)?
cms can be pain in the a**, but the actual site (git) is to technical
for many contributors
cms is going to get hacked,
dock books plain html is blocking people, keep it as simple as possible
basic machinery of the site should be founded in simple html, wikis
etc can be connected to it.use git for contributing
site going to stay static
jakub volunteering for taking care of the website

moderator access actually maintained by ingo (not present)
also taking care of content cleanup
ask him how the admin works, who has access to what? how is
maintaining working?

requirement set
registry as a one click install site

what happens if server crashes?
there are 

Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Deniz Dogan
2010/6/2 Branko Vukelic bg.bra...@gmail.com:
 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Cameron Gregory c...@bloke.com wrote:
 In some cases there is also out by one problem.

 Here is a patch for said issue (most noticeable when rounding is 100% 
 (trying to make a pill)

 http://blog.bloke.com/2010/05/patch-for-gimp-select-rounded-rectangle/

 The most straightforward way to create a pixel-perfect rounded
 rectangle with border I can think of is to use Inkscape
 (http://www.inkscape.org/) and import the SVG into Gimp. You get
 perfect control over the rounding and border weight + the
 rasterization of the SVG eliminates the jaggedness.

 Another way I can think of is to convert the rounded selection to
 path, stroke it to create the border. This produces acceptable
 results, but I've noticed some weird artifacts.


It's too bad one has to resort to using other programs for pixel
perfect borders (as if there ever was such a thing). That means it's
impossible to write a Script-Fu for it (unless you are *really*
ambitious) and also that you can't use GIMP's gradients to fill the
border or the background of the box.

A sad day this is.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Deniz Dogan deniz.a.m.do...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's too bad one has to resort to using other programs for pixel
 perfect borders (as if there ever was such a thing). That means it's
 impossible to write a Script-Fu for it (unless you are *really*
 ambitious) and also that you can't use GIMP's gradients to fill the
 border or the background of the box.

 A sad day this is.

Not as long as you can do it. :) Most FLOSS workflows do require a
certain amount of dedication, imo.

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Deniz Dogan
2010/6/2 Cameron Gregory c...@bloke.com:
 you can still fill the border with gradients.
 same way .. make a border. fill with gradient, make an inner border and bill 
 with BG...

 similar for gradient on the inside

 cameron


Sure, I'm just saying I can't use GIMP's gradients. I have to use the
ones in Inkscape. :)

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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Sven Neumann
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:22 -0400, Rob Antonishen wrote:
  Sure, I'm just saying I can't use GIMP's gradients. I have to use the
  ones in Inkscape. :)
 
 
 BTW- Inkscape can use gimp gradients (they are the same format).

Are they?

It also works the other way around: GIMP can use SVG gradients.


Sven


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Re: [Gimp-user] The best way to make a rounded corner box with a border

2010-06-02 Thread Rob Antonishen
 BTW- Inkscape can use gimp gradients (they are the same format).

 Are they?


Maybe not the same format(?), but drag and drop a .ggr into the canvas
and you can then use it in inkscape.

-Rob A
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