Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Keith Athey wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Could you list a few of the sites you liked for downloading windoze tffs?
>

I've been downloading my Windows TTFs from 1001freefonts.com
(http://www.1001freefonts.com).  They sell the fonts on  a CD but you can
download them individually, as I have been doing.

When you go to that site, click on "Enter here" and NOT "PCFonts" or "Mac
fonts" as you will be directed to some other site.

If interested, I can send you samples of some of these fonts IN USE in an
"Alien Glow" Script-Fu logo that I can create as a demo
(Xtns/Script-Fu/Logos/Alien Glow).

I use these fonts in GIMP 1.2.3 on Linux (2.4.20 kernel) and XFree86 4.2.1.

Good luck!  :)

Peace...

Tom

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Christopher Hicks wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Tom Williams wrote:
> > Christopher Hicks wrote:
> > > I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> > > the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> > > and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> > > in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> > > tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> > > this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
> >
> > I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have
> > found another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)
>
> But how can you tell what's going to be a 2-byte TTF and what's not?

I don't know how to tell if any given TTF is a 2-byte TTF from a techincal
perspective.  From a practical perspective, I've found the more "fancy" or
"artistic" TTFs tend to NOT be 2-byte fonts and I haven't run into any problems
with using them.

So, I guess the 2-byte problem (until GIMP is "fixed" or changed) really depends
on which TTFs you need to use.

Peace.

Tom


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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Hicks
On Mon, 27 Jan 2003, Tom Williams wrote:
> Christopher Hicks wrote:
> > I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> > the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> > and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> > in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> > tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> > this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
> 
> I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have
> found another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)

But how can you tell what's going to be a 2-byte TTF and what's not?

> I've been going to several sites that offer FREE Windows TTFs for
> download and then installing them in my X font set (using ttmkfontdir I
> believe is the utility) and now I've got a rich set of great Windows
> fonts and I don't even both with the 2-byte TTFs anymore. At least, it's
> worth investigating... :)

Several of the fonts in question are from such sites, but in other
instances s specific font is being used for a web project and there's
virtually no chance of a replacement font being found.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Tom Williams
Christopher Hicks wrote:

> [ I sent out a similar message before Christmas, but I'm hoping that
> sending this out again now that everybody's recovered might have a better
> chance of evoking a response.  For those seeing this twice, sorry. ]
>
> I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
> the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
> and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"
> in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
> tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
> this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.
>
> I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
> a detailed way to reproduce the problem) all without coming up with
> anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
> fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
> to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

I have NOT found a workaround for this particular problem, but I have found
another way around it:  don't use 2-byte TTFs!  :)  I know that is obvious
and what I did was start installing various Windows TTFs so my font selection
is now MUCH RICHER and I have no _need_ for the 2-byte TTFs that I wanted to
use before because I had only a handful of TTFs to choose from.

I've been going to several sites that offer FREE Windows TTFs for download
and then installing them in my X font set (using ttmkfontdir I believe is the
utility) and now I've got a rich set of great Windows fonts and I don't even
both with the 2-byte TTFs anymore.

At least, it's worth investigating... :)

Peace...

Tom

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[Gimp-user] 2-byte TTF font brokenness - are there any options?(resend)

2003-01-27 Thread Christopher Hicks
[ I sent out a similar message before Christmas, but I'm hoping that 
sending this out again now that everybody's recovered might have a better 
chance of evoking a response.  For those seeing this twice, sorry. ]

I'm trying to get ttf fonts to work with gimp, but it seems like most of
the fonts that my users want to use are causing the "This is a 2-byte font
and may not display correctly." message to appear.  The "may not display"  
in the message seems to consistantly translate into "renders in image as a
tiny ugly font like the Windows System font".  Is there any workaround for
this?  We're using gimp 1.2.3 on RedHat 8.0.

I've searched the web for hours and submitted a bug to Red Hat (
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=80024 which includes
a detailed way to reproduce the problem) all without coming up with
anything.  I'm not afraid of cvs, compiling, patching, converting the
fonts somehow, or whatever, but I have no idea why it's happening or where
to begin.  Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

-- 


Programming is a Dark Art, and it will always be. The programmer is
fighting against the two most destructive forces in the universe:
entropy and human stupidity. They're not things you can always
overcome with a "methodology" or on a schedule.
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