Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
Von: John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com On my machine /usr/local/ is writable by my own user name. In fact my own user name owns /usr/local and all its subordinates. So rights are not the problem. I just have to go through more clicks than is reasonable just to get back to where I started. So the default path of the export dialog as described in the Save Export specification for 2.8 should fulfill your needs: http://gui.gimp.org/index.php/Save_%2B_export_specification#exporting_files Regards, Michael -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 04:33:43 am Ofnuts wrote: On 07/30/2011 10:33 PM, John Culleton wrote: I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: /usr/local/active/scribusp and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it again in /usr/local/active/scribusp. I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was loaded. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. This is the way it works... Maybe Gimp gets shy because /usr and /usr/local aren't writable by non-root users? On my machine /usr/local/ is writable by my own user name. In fact my own user name owns /usr/local and all its subordinates. So rights are not the problem. I just have to go through more clicks than is reasonable just to get back to where I started. -- John Culleton Death Wore Black Police procedural: http://www.deathworeblack.com/ Create Book Covers with Scribus http://booklocker.com/books/4055.html ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Maerz wrote: On this topic, I have a question. With this new Save and Export feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or overwritten). You will have to script it, at least for now :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org This workflow is troubling. I don't work with xcf, but with real image formats (png, jpg). The old way had its problems (always asking what settings to use for export), but this isn't any better. I now have no way to see if I have exported my image or not, because the change indicator is not updated when the image is exported. Also, if you are going to display a warning message when I try to save as jpg, you might as well handle the exporting there as before. Leave the new export workflow as is, but its restrictive to only use xcf as the native image type, when depending on what I'm working on I may want a different native type, while yet exporting to something else. Back to 2.6 for me :( -- saluk (via gimpusers.com) ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Saturday, July 30, 2011 03:22:55 pm saluk wrote: On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Maerz wrote: On this topic, I have a question. With this new Save and Export feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or overwritten). You will have to script it, at least for now :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org This workflow is troubling. I don't work with xcf, but with real image formats (png, jpg). The old way had its problems (always asking what settings to use for export), but this isn't any better. I now have no way to see if I have exported my image or not, because the change indicator is not updated when the image is exported. Also, if you are going to display a warning message when I try to save as jpg, you might as well handle the exporting there as before. Leave the new export workflow as is, but its restrictive to only use xcf as the native image type, when depending on what I'm working on I may want a different native type, while yet exporting to something else. Back to 2.6 for me :( I have a different problem. I am processing a series of screen shots through Gimp to desaturate them (color pages cost more then B/W pages.) Each time I retrieve a screen shot from: /usr/local/active/scribusp and desaturate it I must chase down the entire file tree to save it again in /usr/local/active/scribusp. I think Gimp should remember the directory from which an image was loaded. Gimp 2.6.11 on Linux. -- John Culleton ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
2) [...] So my second suggestion is to clarify the file type selection for saving files so that it becomes intuitive and unmistakable. The upcoming version will divide Save from Export - where saving will produce XCF files (native GIMP files) and exporting will produce formats like BMP, PNG, etc. In 2.6 I leave the 'By Extension' area minimized and just put the desired extension in the filename. So if I was working on 'image.xcf' and wanted to save as BMP I would do 'Save As' and type'image.bmp' in the filename box, and it will produce a BMP file. On this topic, I have a question. With this new Save and Export feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or overwritten). The boss is rather indecisive frequently, and I have to go back and manually edit a bunch of diagrams. -Stefan Maerz ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Stefan Maerz wrote: On this topic, I have a question. With this new Save and Export feature, will it be possible to save an .xcf and export the image all at once? As in I press save, and two files are generated (or overwritten). You will have to script it, at least for now :) Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
I'm a new mailing list user so feel free to point out my errors so I can get it right next time. I joined the GIMP User mailing list because I was unable to find an easier way to send feedback of any kind and the developer list didn't seem appropriate because I'm not a developer and wouldn't be. I simply have some comments and suggestions that I want to pass on in the hope that the development group makes some changes to GIMP in the future. First, to be clear, I'm referring to the most recent version of GIMP which appears not to have been updated in a long while... v2.6.11 I've *HAD* GIMP for quite some time and occasionally use it but each time I do I find it a bit too disorganized for my liking so I return to the software I usually use. But recently, I upgraded to Windows 7 (64) and found that my preferred software would not install in the 64-bit environment. So I had to try something else so there I was looking at GIMP again. One of my first complaints came when I took a screen shot then pasted the contents of the clipboard into GIMP and tried to save the file. My plan was to save it as a Windows Bitmap (*.BMP) so naturally I selected SAVE AS... and then arrived at the troublesome SAVE AS window. 1) I noted that the folder tree was not in sync with the SAVE IN folder. Not even when I created a new folder did the tree realign itself to show the location where that folder had been created. That made it VERY easy to end up creating folders in completely unexpected locations. And of course, finding a misplaced folder is equally difficult. So my first recommendation is that GIMP's SAVE IMAGE window be restructured to cause the folder tree under the PLACES heading, to always remain in sync with the active folder to expand to reveal it. So whether you change the SAVE IN folder drop list, or you click one of the folder shortcut buttons, or you create a new folder. however a folder is accessed, the tree should always expand to that folder. 2) When I first tried to save my image as a BMP, I tried to do so by changing the drop list at the bottom right of the SAVE IMAGE window. It begins with ALL IMAGES as the default so it seemed to me that selecting Windows Bitmap (*.BMP) in that list would do the trick which of course it did not. Strangely the file was given an XCF extension. It was only after I expanded the item entitled LIST FILE TYPE (BY EXTENSION) that my choice of the Windows Bitmap (BMP) file type took on any meaning. The point here is that it wasn't intuitive. I had to save twice and first got something I didn't expect then corrected my mistake to achieve the saving of a BMP as expected. I'm still not clear about why the right hand filter exists if it serves no purpose when saving? So my second suggestion is to clarify the file type selection for saving files so that it becomes intuitive and unmistakable. 3) The third issue is one of esthetics. GIMP is divided into separate windows. We all see the Toolbox, an Image Window and a Layers window but they are separate windows rather than child processes. That leads to an interesting problem when you want to minimize (not close) GIMP. Closing GIMP shuts down all the open windows but minimizing has effect on only the central image window. In fact, the Toolbox and Layer windows don't even have minimize buttons. So there is no way to actually completely minimize GIMP. There will always be some remnant of it left covering the screen unless the Toolbox etc... windows are closed. This was really awkward for me as my graphics work has me constantly minimizing and restoring. But maximizing presents a similar problem. Since the Toolbox and Layer windows are not child windows, they obstruct the central image window when it is maximized and that can get annoying really fast. In my *efforts* to use GIMP I found myself constantly resizing and closing and opening different elements of the program and that was not only time consuming and required additional effort but also left me wanting a different image editing program. So my third suggestion is to consolidate GIMPs Toolbox, Layer and similar windows into GIMPs main window so that they are child processes and never obstruct the image window. That would also allow for minimizing everything at once. GIMP seems like a very capable image editing program so I'd really like to see it continue in development. And if it does, I hope to see these suggestions somehow incorporated into it. Now I just have to cross my fingers and hope that the right people see this post and feel the same way. I'm outta here. HAP ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU
Re: [Gimp-user] Suggestions for GIMP layout
From someone who's been following the development of GIMP a bit: On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Harald Pfeiffer comme...@maxim-x.com wrote: 1) [...]So my first recommendation is that GIMP's SAVE IMAGE window be restructured to cause the folder tree under the PLACES heading, to always remain in sync with the active folder I don't see any tree (then again I just looked over the dialog in XP, not win7). The items under Places are just bookmarks for convenience that can be added/removed. GIMP uses GTK's file Open and Save dialogs, which differ a bit from native windows dialogs. It may just be that you'll need to spend some time getting used to the differences. 2) [...] So my second suggestion is to clarify the file type selection for saving files so that it becomes intuitive and unmistakable. The upcoming version will divide Save from Export - where saving will produce XCF files (native GIMP files) and exporting will produce formats like BMP, PNG, etc. In 2.6 I leave the 'By Extension' area minimized and just put the desired extension in the filename. So if I was working on 'image.xcf' and wanted to save as BMP I would do 'Save As' and type'image.bmp' in the filename box, and it will produce a BMP file. 3) The third issue is one of esthetics. GIMP is divided into separate windows. Single-Window Mode is coming in the next version (as an option). In the meantime, use the Tab key to show/hide the dialogs and toolbox. HTH, Chris ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
