Re: [Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-14 Thread Milan Knížek
TenLeftFingers píše v Po 12. 04. 2010 v 17:39 +0200:
> >You're welcome. Party due to this topic, I did an overview of color
> >management involving separate+. You can check it out here:
> >
> >http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/513356271/gimp-color-management-for-dtp
> 
> I saw that and I have it bookmarked ;) The new site design is great. 

You should also check with the print shop, if they have experience with
colour managed work-flow and what are their expectations of colour
encoding.

You would know that once you ask for the preferred profile for images in
RGB space or for a particular CMYK profile of their printer. If they do
not tell you much useful information, you'd better look somewhere else
to have your images printed...

regards,

Milan Knizek
knizek (dot) confy (at) volny (dot) cz
http://www.milan-knizek.net - About linux and photography (Czech
language only)

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[Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-12 Thread TenLeftFingers
>You're welcome. Party due to this topic, I did an overview of color
>management involving separate+. You can check it out here:
>
>http://www.brankovukelic.com/post/513356271/gimp-color-management-for-dtp

I saw that and I have it bookmarked ;) The new site design is great. 

I'll go through your questionnaire at some point too.

TenLeftFingers

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[Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-11 Thread TenLeftFingers
Branko,

There's a wealth of information to process there - thank you so much. I
really would rather do this work on Linux or not at all and you've given me
everything I can imagine needing to know.

Ten

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[Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-05 Thread TenLeftFingers
Branko, that was extremely informative. Thank you.

>Yeah, I thought you meant laser printers. Some people >confuse 4-color laser
printers with real CMYK-capable >machines.

Actually, I didn't know the difference. Thanks again.

>You can get Huey at a very low price, and you can
>use Argyll CMS with dispcalGUI to get the maximum out of that device
>(software that comes with it is not very good, though).

I've just looked those up and it sounds like these tools are almost vital. 

>For proper CMYK preview, you can use the Print simulation mode
>(Preferences > Color management). And yes, your printer's profile
>would help.
>
>Get separate+ plugin (current version is 0.5.6) and use that to output
>CMYK file. You can use the Pseudo-Composite option in separate+ to get
>the separated file, and you can use the eyedropper tool on layer mask
>separate+ creates to see the exact output value for each channel
>(you'll see what I mean when you actually do all this).

I've just installed seperate+ and when I get familiar with it, I'll try this
out. It seems from my first attempt, that without calibration / printer
profile, the process is useless.

>You can also use Scribus to help you with creating press-ready PDFs.
>Scribus converts images to CMYK automatically for you. For
>photographic images, this is not a problem.

I used Scribus and noticed that when exporting, there is a "For Print" option
in the color dialog. The output looked too pale on screen so I didn't send
this to the print company. De you think this would have solved my darkness
problem?

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[Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-05 Thread TenLeftFingers
Thanks folks. I didn't understand the CMYK seperator filter so I didn't use
it. I'm pretty sure the printing company are using CMYK printers and apple
computers - so I might ask them what color profile I should use.

I'm designing on a cheap laptop so I guess the lack of calibration isn't
helping. I looked at the color modes too but the only choice is sRGB, which
I'm already using.

Regards,
Ten

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Re: [Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-03 Thread Praveen Venkatachari
You could convert to CMYK using the separate+ plugin if that's what you
want.

http://cue.yellowmagic.info/softwares/separate-plus/index.html

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On 1 April 2010 21:01, TenLeftFingers  wrote:

> I've noticed (and since learned) that when an RGB graphic is printed on a
> CMYK
> printer, the output can be much darker - perhaps more saturated?
>
> Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend modification I should make to
> my images before sending them to the printer. I've considered simply
> brightening the image, but I'm thinking that there might be a smarter
> adjustment to make.
>
> Thanks!
> Ten
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Re: [Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-02 Thread Branko Vukelic
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 5:01 AM, TenLeftFingers  wrote:
> I've noticed (and since learned) that when an RGB graphic is printed on a CMYK
> printer, the output can be much darker - perhaps more saturated?
>
> Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend modification I should make to
> my images before sending them to the printer. I've considered simply
> brightening the image, but I'm thinking that there might be a smarter
> adjustment to make.

Most "CMYK" printers (if you mean inkjets and lasers) are actually RGB
printers. So, you can get the most accurate results using a calibrated
monitor, Gimp's color management in "Color manged display" mode, and
sRGB profile for your image.

You can get better results by calibrating your printer, though.

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[Gimp-user] What final RGB adjustments before CMYK print?

2010-04-01 Thread TenLeftFingers
I've noticed (and since learned) that when an RGB graphic is printed on a CMYK
printer, the output can be much darker - perhaps more saturated?

Anyway, I'm wondering if anyone can recommend modification I should make to
my images before sending them to the printer. I've considered simply
brightening the image, but I'm thinking that there might be a smarter
adjustment to make.

Thanks!
Ten

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