Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content plugin

2007-10-17 Thread Simon Nickau
There is information on the website, IIRC you have to extract it into
gimp's file structure under program files.
Check the website to be sure, though. I would find it but at the
moment I can't, sorry.


On 17/10/2007, D.Jones (aka) Capnhud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I usually have no problem installing a plugin, but the Image resizing based 
> upon image
> content plugin has presented me with problems.  I use windows XP and was 
> wondering where
> am I supposed to extract the directories that are included in the 7z. file 
> they are
> included in and do I necessary need the it, ru and other translations for 
> english?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-16 Thread Konstantin Svist
Greg wrote:
> --- Rolf Steinort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> ... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
>> the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60
>> 
>
> And thanks to your shamelessness, I've installed said plug-in.  One
> thing though, except for the image dimensions, all of the controls are 
> inactive.
>   

You need to create a new layer if you want to mark the areas to 
keep/remove. If you run LR on 1 layer, it'll disable the extra controls, 
of course.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-16 Thread Greg
--- Rolf Steinort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
> the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60

And thanks to your shamelessness, I've installed said plug-in.  One
thing though, except for the image dimensions, all of the controls are inactive.


   

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-15 Thread Konstantin Svist
Greg wrote:
> --- Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> I saw the same thing.. are you using linux, perchance? Maybe it's 
>> limux-flash-specific bug...
>> 
>
> Nope, XP Pro.
>
>   
>> Anyway, I think it keeps the result but doesn't -- try saving it and
>> see if you get the final image.
>> 
>
> Did that.  You get the original image.
>   

Guess it's a glitch in the Matrix, then ;)


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-15 Thread Greg
--- Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I saw the same thing.. are you using linux, perchance? Maybe it's 
> limux-flash-specific bug...

Nope, XP Pro.

> Anyway, I think it keeps the result but doesn't -- try saving it and
> see if you get the final image.

Did that.  You get the original image.


  

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-13 Thread norman
< big snip >

Whatever the fine points may be and the tweaking that will inevitably go
on, the importance to a learner like me and others, is that a process
was brought to our attention in an understandable and practical way.
What would be useful, however, is if those who try out the process could
report their findings whenever they are new or different to those in the
video and backed up by evidence, so that the rest of us may benefit from
their experience.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-12 Thread Rolf Steinort
Am Freitag, den 12.10.2007, 09:10 -0700 schrieb Konstantin Svist:
> Rolf Steinort wrote:
> > ... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
> > the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60
> >
> > Why use some Flash if you can do it in the Gimp?  ;-)
> >   
> 
> Indeed :)
> 
> Very nice tutorial, Rolf!
> However, I think you must've made some mistake when resizing to double 
> the width. If you didn't notice, the plugin doesn't get rid of the cows 
> you marked in the "loose" layer - that's because these markings are only 
> *hints* for the algorithm. 

I didn't expect the cow to vanish - this happens only if you shrink the
image. But I expected to get a "stretch cow" (got it) and to keep the
others. They were stretched too, but less. 

> I'm not sure what it would do when you give 
> it info to remove and ask to scale up at the same time..

The content of the "to be discarded" part of the image is set to the
lowest energy and so expanded most likely. 

> Also, try enabling recalculation of energy after every step (it's a 
> checkbox in advanced options). This should allow you to double the size 
> of the image.

Yes, I overlooked that option. :-(

I made another blunder by overestimating the run time on large images.
It scales much friendlier than I feared - I had a problem with my
machine during testing this stuff for the show. 

> Oh, one last thing - where did you get that using white vs. black 
> changes the intensity? I didn't see it on the plugin info page..

It's on the help page. 

/usr/local/share/gimp-lqr-plugin/help/en/index.html

- quote --
In the Feature preservation selection section it is possible to specify
if there are regions of the image which should be preserved from
modification, by checking the Activate feature preservation box, and by
choosing a layer among the ones which belong to the current image
(different from the active one, which is to be rescaled) in the
Available layers menu. 
The intensity of the effect on each pixel is obtained as the average on
the pixel's channels, including the alpha channel. Thus for an RGB layer
with an alpha channel, the maximum value is achieved on white pixels,
while black ones are worth one quarter of the white ones and transparent
pixels are ignored.
- /quote --

Oh, BTW, a viewer informed me, that the plugin compiles under Mac OS
without problems - there are just no binaries floating around. 


Rolf

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-12 Thread Konstantin Svist
Rolf Steinort wrote:
> ... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
> the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60
>
> Why use some Flash if you can do it in the Gimp?  ;-)
>   

Indeed :)

Very nice tutorial, Rolf!
However, I think you must've made some mistake when resizing to double 
the width. If you didn't notice, the plugin doesn't get rid of the cows 
you marked in the "loose" layer - that's because these markings are only 
*hints* for the algorithm. I'm not sure what it would do when you give 
it info to remove and ask to scale up at the same time..
Also, try enabling recalculation of energy after every step (it's a 
checkbox in advanced options). This should allow you to double the size 
of the image.

Oh, one last thing - where did you get that using white vs. black 
changes the intensity? I didn't see it on the plugin info page..


HTH


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-12 Thread norman

> > > Online tool which does this : http://rsizr.com/
> > 
> > I tried this but the image resets as soon as its done.  You don't even
> > get a chance to view the final output.
> 
> ... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
> the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60
> 
> Why use some Flash if you can do it in the Gimp?  ;-)

I would like to endorse what Rolf has written. I watched the video 3
days ago and have had great fun resizing and removing parts of images
ever since.

Norman

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-11 Thread Rolf Steinort
Hi,

Am Donnerstag, den 11.10.2007, 15:45 -0700 schrieb Greg:
> --- Simon Nickau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Online tool which does this : http://rsizr.com/
> 
> I tried this but the image resets as soon as its done.  You don't even
> get a chance to view the final output.

... and I use this chance to shamelessly plug my tutorial video about
the liquid resize plugin for the Gimp: http://meetthegimp.org/?p=60

Why use some Flash if you can do it in the Gimp?  ;-)


Rolf

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-11 Thread Konstantin Svist
Greg wrote:
> --- Simon Nickau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Online tool which does this : http://rsizr.com/
>> 
>
> I tried this but the image resets as soon as its done.  You don't even
> get a chance to view the final output.
>   

I saw the same thing.. are you using linux, perchance? Maybe it's 
limux-flash-specific bug...
Anyway, I think it keeps the result but doesn't -- try saving it and see 
if you get the final image.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-11 Thread Greg
--- Simon Nickau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Online tool which does this : http://rsizr.com/

I tried this but the image resets as soon as its done.  You don't even
get a chance to view the final output.


  

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-05 Thread Konstantin Svist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Oct 04, 2007 15:54 -0400 
> (in part):
>> Kevin Cozens wrote:
>>   
>>> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>> >   
>>> 
 >> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
 >> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
 >> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?
 >> 
   
>>> > Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the 
>>> > time 
>>> > and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm.
>>> >   
>>> 
> I don't think the one you point to below is the same as Liquid Resizer
> (see http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/ and d/l 
> http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/gimp-lqr-plugin-0.1.3.zip 
> for it).
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks like someone has implemented it already:
>> http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=5479
>> http://zinx.xmms.org/colorize/
>>
>> Trying to compile the supporting libraries.. it's a PITA, unfortunately.
> I hope you succeed - the colorizer looks like it would be a lot of fun 
> to play with.
> >From the Readme there, here is a pdf and an abstract from the 
> algorithm author:
>
> * http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~alevin/papers/colorization-siggraph04.pdf
> * http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/Colorization/
>
> Popping up to his home page it looks like he's done a lot of 
> interesting "stuff":
> http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/
>
> If you succeed would you be generating for Win32 platform? (hopefully 
> :-) )

You're absolutely right. The plugin for context-sensitive resizing is 
located at http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/ (is it the same one as in 
your links?). I got it to work fairly easily.
I was hunting for it and the colorizer plugin and got the two confused 
in my head :D
The colorizer plugin seems very cool, especially since I have a lot of 
old b/w photos that I'd love to colorize

As far as generating it for win32.. I'm using Linux, so probably no. 
I'll post what I've done if you're interested (when I get it working, of 
course).


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-05 Thread buralex
 Konstantin Svist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on Oct 04, 2007 15:54 -0400 
(in part):

Kevin Cozens wrote:
  

> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>   


>> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
>> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
>> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?
>> 
  
> Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the time 
> and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm.
>   


I don't think the one you point to below is the same as Liquid Resizer
(see http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/ and d/l 
http://schumaml.gmxhome.de/downloads/gimp/gimp-lqr-plugin-0.1.3.zip for it).




Looks like someone has implemented it already:
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=5479
http://zinx.xmms.org/colorize/

Trying to compile the supporting libraries.. it's a PITA, unfortunately.
I hope you succeed - the colorizer looks like it would be a lot of fun 
to play with.
From the Readme there, here is a pdf and an abstract from the algorithm 
author:


   * http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~alevin/papers/colorization-siggraph04.pdf
   * http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/Colorization/

Popping up to his home page it looks like he's done a lot of interesting 
"stuff":

http://www.cs.huji.ac.il/~yweiss/

If you succeed would you be generating for Win32 platform? (hopefully :-) )

Regards ... Alec -- buralex-gmail
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-05 Thread Simon Nickau
Online tool which does this : http://rsizr.com/


I realise I sent this from my gmail address instead of the one
registered on the list
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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-04 Thread Konstantin Svist
Daniel Hornung wrote:
> On Thursday 04 October 2007, Konstantin Svist wrote:
>   
>> Kevin Cozens wrote:
>> 
>>> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>>   
 There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
 removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
 of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?
 
>
> http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/
> and the video for it is here
> http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/en:examples
>
> Only problem now:  It's located in the layers menu, which should be changed 
> to 
> filters->something
>   
Actually, I think it's a feature.
See, it uses different layers to mark areas which should be preserved 
and areas to be removed (just paint it with paintbrush and go).
Unfortunately, it's nowhere near as fast as the one shown in the video. 
And, as a corollary, it can't be used to see the difference while resizing.
Someone mentioned (on some blog) that this plugin uses some generic math 
library and would work better with specialized algorithms.




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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-04 Thread Daniel Hornung
On Thursday 04 October 2007, Konstantin Svist wrote:
> Kevin Cozens wrote:
> > Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
> >> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
> >> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?

http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/
and the video for it is here
http://liquidrescale.wikidot.com/en:examples

Only problem now:  It's located in the layers menu, which should be changed to 
filters->something


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-10-04 Thread Konstantin Svist
Kevin Cozens wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>   
>> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
>> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
>> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?
>> 
> Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the time 
> and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm.
>   



Looks like someone has implemented it already:
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=5479
http://zinx.xmms.org/colorize/

Trying to compile the supporting libraries.. it's a PITA, unfortunately.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-09-01 Thread Toby Haynes
Kevin Cozens wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>   
>> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
>> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
>> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?
>> 
>
> Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the time 
> and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm.
>   
The approach of using energy (I wonder that really means entropy) 
approach to finding "boring" seams through the image is very clever. The 
first thing to find out is whether any of this has been patented yet. If 
it has, then there are probably other approaches to identifying 
interesting areas of the image - graph-cut algorithms or other 
feature-identification systems. It looks like the sort of thing Paul 
Harrison (author of the Resynthesizer plugin) would be able to knock up 
in a lunchtime or too :-)

Cheers,
Toby Haynes

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-08-29 Thread Kevin Cozens
Dotan Cohen wrote:
> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp?

Of course it can be implemented in GIMP. It just takes someone with the time 
and ability to write the code for a plug-in that implements the algorithm.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Image resizing based upon image content

2007-08-29 Thread Anthony Ettinger
saw that the other day -- very cool.

On 8/29/07, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> There is an amazing video describing an image resizing algorithm that
> removes (or adds) pixels based upon their importance to the subjecto
> of the photo. Can this be implemented in The Gimp? Apparently it will
> soon be a part of Photoshop.
>
> The video is here:
>
> http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/08/28/adobe-hires-co-inventor-of-image-resizer-technology/
>
> Dotan Cohen
>
> http://what-is-what.com/what_is/gimp.html
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