Re: inconsitent antialiasing
Hello, I am running gimp 1.0.4 on red hat 6.2 I am trying to make text gifs in gimp, and found a strang inconsitency. If you look at the attached gif, the "T" in "TE" "TA" "TH" "TQ" all look different. I need a context-independent antialiasing solution. It appears that you forgot the attachment but I bet this is what's going on: Antialiasing allows for ``sub-pixel'' rendering. a 50% grey pixel means that half of the area of the pixel has black pixels in it and half have white. Because most fonts dont have intigral pixel width characters, the T can start at pixel x=5 the first time, but then pixel x=18.342 the next time, etc. Imagine this: Draw a box from x=10 to x=20, then one from x=31 to x=41. Scale the image down by 1/3. The box from x=10 to x=20 maps to x=5 to x=10. The box from x=31 to x=41 maps to x=15.5 to x=20.5. Therefore the second box will have a grey pixel on each side whereas the first box will be only black/white. The same thign is happening to you with fonts. (This was discussed a few weeks ago I think) --Ben
Re: True Space
** Reply Requested When Convenient ** Is there a program like true space for linux? Have you tried blender? (You can find it on freshemat.net I think) --Ben
Re: Speaking about fonts
- Original Message - From: Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 30, 2000 10:21 AM Subject: Speaking about fonts Does anybody know how to uncompress the MS Win32 self extratcing archives? It seems that they are becoming a new trend latelly (instead of zip and a good system to install fonts, they use self installers and waste KB like mad). I suspect WINE will be your best bet. I don't know if there's a way to extract the data from a self extracting .exe. --Ben
Re: creating patterns
- Original Message - From: Hago Ziegler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp-Liste [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:58 PM Subject: creating patterns Hi, I try to create a pattern, using a part of a JPG-image. I'm not sure exactly what you mean... I already did patterns, sometime I could save it as *.pat, sometimes not, but I don't know what it's depending of. Could somebody please describe the exact way to create a pattern? What sort of pattern are you trying to create? What will you be using it for? Are you talking about tiling background sorts of patterns or what? Also, I'm not familiar with *.pat. I'd think you'd save a pattern as a standard gif, png, jpg, whatever... --Ben
Re: Filters...
- Original Message - From: Tobias Gärder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp-User Mailinglist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 12:00 AM Subject: Filters... Since everyone's talking about scripts filters... Does anyone know of some script/filter to create sin/cos curves? I want to be able to choose the tool i want to use with it, set the "step"amount between every mark and then the sin/cos variables + decimals to get some tweaked curves (which ofcourse does not end up where it started from the beginning). I'm not sure if this is quite what you want but you can get perfect sine curves by doing a repeating sinusoidal gradient and using that as a displacement map. --Ben Or do i have to get myself some old pascal vga-lib for linux and do this myself? =) (That was a "i don't want to do that" sentence). Would be great if it existed.. Really simple to do too -- mvh, .---+-+---. | tobias gärder | webdesigner | scandinavia online ab | | 0733-201060 | 08-58781112 | www.passagen.se | `---+-+---'
Re: Does this filter exist?
- Original Message - From: Stephan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Marc Lehmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Ian Boreham [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 1:06 PM Subject: Re: Does this filter exist? On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Marc Lehmann wrote: On Wed, Sep 20, 2000 at 09:42:44PM +0200, Stephan Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are interpolated, rather than simply repeated?" Exactly. How do I do that? =) Use the scale tool or "Image-Scale Image". The answer is so obvious that I still don't think this is what you wanted to know? And that won't stretch it like any ordinary (paint brush) graphics tool would? It would stretch it b stretching it, not like paintbrush does (which I believe is not antialiased.) Gimp antialiases but there is only so much information in an x by y pixel image. I mean an "intelligent" stretch tool. Like you said, not just repeat the same pixels. The best you are going to get is filtering the output of your enlargement which is essentially what you are looking for. Do you know of any software that does what you'r talking about? --Ben
Re: Does this filter exist?
[...] Neither "blow up" nor "stretch pixels" are well-defined terms. What do you mean by them? I would assume that the intended question here is "How do I increase the number of pixels in my image so that the extra pixels are interpolated, rather than simply repeated?" (just to nitpick, when you blow up an image, the pixels are interpolated, not repeated. That's why it looks blury. Without anti-aliasing you do get repitition. What gimp does (more or less) is a simple liniar interpolation to find out what inbetween colors are. IE if you have a black box on white, when you double the size you'll end up with a grey line between the black and white because that pixel would map to between a black and a white pixel.) Exactly. How do I do that? =) I think the ting to do is scale up normally, then use something like unsharp mask to get some detail back. I remember seeing a link (perhaps from this list) that was to information on unsharp mask and an even better shaprening filter someone had made. --Ben
Re: Reverse video
- Original Message - From: Leonard R. Wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 10:45 PM Subject: Reverse video Hello. Is there any quick way in GIMP to swap black and white colors in an imported color image? I have a .tif image (generated by another program) which I want to send to my printer. The .tif image consists of a color graph superimposed on a black background. The black background covers most of the image. The graph is labeled by white text which appears superimposed on the black background. The reason I want to swap black and white is that currently when I send this plot to my printer, a ton of ink gets used up in printing the black background. (I am going to be generating a bunch of these plots, so it would be nice to have a way to swap black and white.) Here's how I'd do it: Edit-select by color Select the black color. Copy it to the clipboard. Select the white color. Fill it in black or invert the color (same effect). Paste the black from the clipboard, invert the color (image-colors-invert I think). Finally, line things up if the paste didn't go where it's supposed to. --Ben
Re: Very Interesting
I have only one question. WWWD? (what would Wilber do?)
Re: variety in letters
- Original Message - From: Jim Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GIMP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:50 PM Subject: variety in letters Well, I made my own bullet, one pixel at a time, but it looks really good. Now, here's another question. I am putting black text on white, and using the same font at the same size I get 3 very different letter e's. Take a look at : http://www.bsmanagement.com/llywelyn/images/e.gif Note how different each final e is. Is there a reason for this? This is at 8X display, but it is a little visible at 1X display too. I'm only using 20 pt font. However, reagardless, it does seem as if it should do the same thing every time. Or does it? That would be true except for the fact that the font is anti-aliased. Basicly what gimp does (though it may actually do it slightly differently) is draw a big copy of the font into memory, then scale it down smoothly and draw that. Your font isn't monospaced so the e isn't an intigral number of pixels from where that line of text started. That's why they look different. (I think.) --Ben
Re: MNG
- Original Message - From: Lea Anthony [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Joachim Ansorg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:14 AM Subject: Re: MNG MNG? PNG is pronounced Ping. Tell me this isn't pronounced Ming! MNG: Multiple-image Network Graphics (Animated PNG) JNG: JPEG Network Graphics -Lea. Joachim Ansorg wrote: Hi! Is there a plugin to read and save MNG and JNG images in GIMP? Since Konqueror can use them now I'm eager to create some. I'm not sure if there is one. A quick Google search gives references to people talking about the idea of MNG in Gimp but no code. --Ben
Re: How to install GIMP.
It installs no differently (basicly) than any other unix software. You can install it from source or you can also install it from RPM or whatever the package type is for your system. Once it installed you can just run ``gimp'' from the command line. --Ben On Fri, 14 Jul 2000, Marcel Olrichs wrote: Hello, I heard some good news about GIMP. So I downloaded the files. But how do I install the program!? Lots of technical bla bla on the GIMP site, but some kind of user (you know, people who want to use software without being bored with techie talk) friendly installation program is nowhere to be seen. Any help? Thanks Marcel Olrichs Amsterdan
Re: postscript to big !!
On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Christian Wenz wrote: i normally scan pictures with gimp and save them as *.xcf. when i like to plot them or to edit with xfig, i have to revert them to *.ps or *.eps. but the size of the files are increasing terribly. is this increase gimp-dependent ?? i know that gimp is pixel based !! maybe there is another better way to get small *.ps files ??? You got it. Gimp is exporting to a bunch of pixels rather than nice postscript shapes. there's no way to do better with GIMP. There may be other programs that would be better for this. I'm forgeting the name but there's one that can export to SVG that might do nice PS output. --Ben
Re: Brush Size preview?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Relating to this I seem to have had trouble doing something as simple as drawing one pixel at a time, it seems even the pen/pencil tool is not as fine as one pixel. Is there something I'm missing? Yea... ctrl+shift+b to get the brush dialog then hit the one pixel brush and use either the pencil or paintbrush. --Ben Thanks, Josh On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, Robb Kidd wrote: Does the GIMP provide on option to replace the default pencil pointer with a circle/shape representing the current brush size? I'm trying to make the switch to GIMP (or at least get up to speed with it) and the "precision bursh" is a feature I've found very handy in my years of working with Photoshop.
Re: Can you please help me?
The gimp website is created with the Gimp, of course :-) The gimp is a nice image manipulation program for unix, linux and even (to some extent) windows. I'd imagine the HTML for the page was done with vi or emacs but I wouldn't know. --Ben On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I've visited your website Gimp. Can you kindly tell me what you make it up with? What software... for example? Thanks very very mcuh!! Annie 2000/6/12
Re: making a transparent png
- Original Message - From: Ben Skelton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 6:14 AM Subject: making a transparent png Hi all I am having real trouble making transparent pngs. My lovely airbrushed art is turned into ugly solid (opaque) colour when I save as a png. Is there a trick, or a RightWay, to make these things? Maybe I have some broken software, I am running gimp as per suse 6.4. It depends on what your're using your images for. It sounds like you are seeing your images in 1 bit transparencey rather than full transparency like in GIMP. Is that correct? If it is correct, there isn't all that much you can do about it. If you are doing airbrushing on a transparent image and then viewing it with a program that only supports 1 bit alpha then you'll have to add a background layer and flatten the image in GIMP so that your airbrushing shows up as a color gradient rather than an alpha gradient. --Ben
Re: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers?
- Original Message - From: Robert B. Easter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: How to see the x,y coordinates instead of just the rulers? Other image manipulation programs I've used let you see the x,y coordinates where the mouse is. When dragging to create a rectangle some will show the x,y and the relative x,y of the start and the current mouse position in the box being made. With gimp, I can only see the rulers which don't give me exact coordinates. Is there a way to add a status line to an editing window that will show the x,y coordinates? The latest (unstable) versions have this feature. Robert B. Easter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is your name really Easter? (if so, do I wish you a happy birthday or what?)
Re: Bezier lines
- Original Message - From: Victor Orlov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:48 AM Subject: Re: Bezier lines Hi! By the way, does anybody know how to make a 1 pixel width line using "stroke" command? It seems that even if I set my brush to 1x1 pixel the result line will be 2 pixels width. One way is to make image twice as big and then resize it, but, probably it's not the best way. One solution is this: Working with an otherwise blank layer, do the stroke then invert the selection and do ctrl+k to delete the ``outside'' half of the stroked line. It's an ugly way to do it but it works (you can get interesting effects using this with large airbrushes) I too would like to know if there's a way to do it ``right'' if not then perhaps a feature request :-) One other thing I've noticed about stroke is that if you are using a low opacity on your brush, the starting point of the loop is darker (try it with a rectangular selection) I assume this is because it's just drawing the path so the starting point gets hit twice but it's a bit ugly. --Ben alex wrote: Hi, Lars Burgstahler wrote: Hi, I know how to create shapes using the bezier tool. I also know how to draw lines with the pen or brush. But is there also a way to draw a line with the bezier tool, using a certain brush from the palette? I just want to draw an arc or a wave or something similar. Making a bezier shape is quite painful for something like that because it is difficult to get the same line width everywhere, Quick suggestions: 1. Convert it to selection and use 'stroke' command ( not sure, but it shuold be in 'Selection' submenu. It fills selection with current brust. 2. If you use unclosed path, try GFigure tools (if you have it, it included at least in 1.1.17 ver) Alex -- // Only the fireborn understand blue. __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- Best regards, Victor. + To light a candle is to cast a shadow... +
Re: Painting cool icons
- Original Message - From: Ralf Gerlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gimp User Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2000 1:28 AM Subject: Re: Painting cool icons Hi! I'm wondering how these really cool icons of KDE2 and GNOME are painted. How could I do this? Pixel for Pixel or somehow else ? Somehow else, mostly. Take a look at tigert's tutorials at http://tigert.gimp.org That's where I learned. Cool. That's what I call a lesson! But how do I do e.g. a folder like the one tigert has for "Dull files"? I mean those light effects and the dark borders around the paper and the folder itself. I suppose there's a trick? Several tricks: For outlines use edit-stroke and then touch up with shift + click with the painbrush to draw streight lines. For things like a folder with a back a front and paper, use a layer for each piece. For shading use a gentle airbrush to highlight and shade with black and white paint. Hope that helps. --Ben Thx in advance, Ralf -- Ralf Gerlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] Passionate programmer http://www.d-design.net/rgerlich/
Re: Download the gimp
Hi all, I'm looking for a ftp site where I can found last gimp version in rpm format (1.1.19) and / or the daily CVS source in a tarball. Thank's for all Try ftp.helixcode.com --Ben
Re: Painting cool icons
Amy wrote: which icons, specifically? On Wed, 5 Apr 2000, Joachim Ansorg wrote: Hi! I'm wondering how these really cool icons of KDE2 and GNOME are painted. How could I do this? Pixel for Pixel or somehow else ? Somehow else, mostly. Take a look at tigert's tutorials at http://tigert.gimp.org That's where I learned. --Ben