Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)
> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 12:19:51 -0400 > From: ptilopt...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;) > > * Richard Gitschlag [05-10-12 11:44]: > > > > (Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?) > > It does > -- Then the real question is why every time I hit Reply, Hotmail prefills my form with the individual user's email instead of the mailing list's, and I have to change it every time before hitting Send. GIMP or otherwise, minor impediments like these are quite annoying. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] getting a screen shot of a screensaver?
> >Tell GIMP to grab a screenshot of the entire screen after a delay, and > >then immediately after you activate the screenshot, before the delay > >expires, lock the screen so the screensaver kicks in. I tested this and > >it works on Linux; I don't know if it will work on Windows. > > Yep, I'm on a Windoze machine. Hit the PrintScreen key on your keyboard (usually located next to F12). Windows traps the keystroke and dumps a copy of the screen otno the system clipboard, which you can then paste into GIMP. It's not foolproof but it does work on most applications, screensavers included. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
On 12-05-10 06:06 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: It's like when I wanted to install Ubuntu, eventually I figured out how to download and burn a disk image, but in the meantime I had to buy a burner for 33 bucks. But back when I didn't have a burner or didn't readily know how to burn it I bought a Ubuntu disk for 4 dollars, well worth the cost. Its one thing if the seller is providing some service by providing the software on a CD/DVD or if they have added something to the package (ie. additional plug-ins/scripts). If all the seller is doing is charging for the URL where the software can be downloaded for free, the sellers ethics and/or morals are definitely questionable. If nothing more than a URL was given for the money, you should consider leaving negative feedback with a notice like "Selling software available free at ". If the seller doesn't like that, you could agree to mutually withdraw if you are reimbursed the original purchase price. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"Nerds make the shiny things that distract Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 | the mouth-breathers, and that's why we're | powerful!" #include | --Chris Hardwick ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
Well, I looked at some of the auctions of Gimp there, and one was for 99 cents, others for like 4 bucks highest i saw was 20 dollars. Some of these sales are packages including open office, etc. It's basically the price to get a version burned to a cd. It's like when I wanted to install Ubuntu, eventually I figured out how to download and burn a disk image, but in the meantime I had to buy a burner for 33 bucks. But back when I didn't have a burner or didn't readily know how to burn it I bought a Ubuntu disk for 4 dollars, well worth the cost. Dan On 5/10/12, Jay Smith wrote: > On 05/10/2012 04:26 PM, Russ Marshall wrote: >> Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be >> SOLD on eBay? There are those of us >> who have been cheated by sellers who, when you win the auction send you >> the URL for GIMP web page where >> you may download it for free >> I have complained to eBay but they will not do anything about it. >> RUSS MARSHALL > > > Russ, > > Gimp developers do not "allow" or "not allow" sales. The Gimp license > does not prevent such activity. That is part of the whole open-source > software world, it is not related only to Gimp. > > No, such activity is not honorable -- if the seller has not added any > value to transaction, but since it is not a disallowed activity, it is > not illegal. Whether it is ethical or not is a decision above my pay > grade. I don't like it, but even vultures and possums have their role > in the world. > > However... I believe strongly -- and I do apply this thinking to myself > as well -- that one should first look to oneself before deciding to > blame others. Did you know that you were buying Gimp? Did you know > what you were going to be receiving? If you did know that you were > buying Gimp, did you research it (doing a simple Google search would > have told you everything) before bidding on it. Or, if you did not know > what product you were buying, why did you bid on it? All these types of > questions should perhaps be considered before blaming everybody else. > > If you were not previously aware of Gimp and you did not do any research > to find Gimp (or other free / open-source software), then perhaps the > eBay seller did actually provide some value for the price they charged > -- in a devious kind of way, they have introduced you to the wonderful > world of Gimp. If Gimp cost $200 or $500, it would still be worth it to > _many_ people, myself included. > > So, perhaps this is just a life lesson: Know exactly what you are > bidding on, research alternative sources before bidding, etc., etc. > > By the way, there is a huge and wonderful world of free / open-source > software around there. Explore that world and you will find a lot of > great, free programs you had no idea existed. > > Jay > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > gimp-user-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list > ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
On 05/10/2012 04:26 PM, Russ Marshall wrote: Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be SOLD on eBay? There are those of us who have been cheated by sellers who, when you win the auction send you the URL for GIMP web page where you may download it for free I have complained to eBay but they will not do anything about it. RUSS MARSHALL Russ, Gimp developers do not "allow" or "not allow" sales. The Gimp license does not prevent such activity. That is part of the whole open-source software world, it is not related only to Gimp. No, such activity is not honorable -- if the seller has not added any value to transaction, but since it is not a disallowed activity, it is not illegal. Whether it is ethical or not is a decision above my pay grade. I don't like it, but even vultures and possums have their role in the world. However... I believe strongly -- and I do apply this thinking to myself as well -- that one should first look to oneself before deciding to blame others. Did you know that you were buying Gimp? Did you know what you were going to be receiving? If you did know that you were buying Gimp, did you research it (doing a simple Google search would have told you everything) before bidding on it. Or, if you did not know what product you were buying, why did you bid on it? All these types of questions should perhaps be considered before blaming everybody else. If you were not previously aware of Gimp and you did not do any research to find Gimp (or other free / open-source software), then perhaps the eBay seller did actually provide some value for the price they charged -- in a devious kind of way, they have introduced you to the wonderful world of Gimp. If Gimp cost $200 or $500, it would still be worth it to _many_ people, myself included. So, perhaps this is just a life lesson: Know exactly what you are bidding on, research alternative sources before bidding, etc., etc. By the way, there is a huge and wonderful world of free / open-source software around there. Explore that world and you will find a lot of great, free programs you had no idea existed. Jay ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
On Thu, 10 May 2012 16:26:20 -0400, Russ Marshall wrote: > Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be SOLD on > eBay? Because the GPL license does not limit the freedom to sell the software. -- < Jernej Simončič ><><><><>< http://eternallybored.org/ > ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Russ Marshall wrote: > Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be SOLD on > eBay? There are those of us > who have been cheated by sellers who, when you win the auction send you the > URL for GIMP web page where > you may download it for free > I have complained to eBay but they will not do anything about it. There's really nothing that can be done. I recommend going back to eBay and filing a complaint there. I hardly use eBay anymore but when I do, I always: 1. Search the web for the item and get 3rd party information/reviews/etc. 2. Check the seller's profile very carefully, and search for them as well. Sorry you got scammed. Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] QUESTION OF ETHICS
Can anyone explain to me why GIMP allows their “FREE” software to be SOLD on eBay? There are those of us who have been cheated by sellers who, when you win the auction send you the URL for GIMP web page where you may download it for free I have complained to eBay but they will not do anything about it. RUSS MARSHALL 108 CHANNEL ROAD 2 ALPENA, MI. 49707 989.356.4934-HOME 989.766.3531-CELL russmarsh...@charter.net - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4989 - Release Date: 05/10/12 ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] getting a screen shot of a screensaver?
>On 12-05-02 10:12 PM, FortKnox wrote: >> I'd like to include several screenshots of what the W.C.G. screensaver >> looks like in action. >One option is to use the screensaver selection/option program, select the >screensaver you want then do a snapshot of the window with the demo of the >effect. Yep, good thought, but again I'm befuddled since doing so only shows me a generic screenshot of BOINC, while WCG is just one project that can run inside of BOINC. I'm giving up on the screenshot idea oh well... Thanks for the assistance! -- FortKnox (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] getting a screen shot of a screensaver?
>Tell GIMP to grab a screenshot of the entire screen after a delay, and >then immediately after you activate the screenshot, before the delay >expires, lock the screen so the screensaver kicks in. I tested this and >it works on Linux; I don't know if it will work on Windows. Yep, I'm on a Windoze machine. I have no idea how to "lock the screen so the screensaver kicks in"... Googling... I found a way to set up a hot-key trigger... but that leads to more issues. The hot-key does trigger BOINC, but then BOINC flashes something like "Screensaver suspended, computer in use." Forget this, it's now more trouble than it's worth, I'm just gonna use point 'em to the screenshots on the website. >Aside from the issue of taking a screen shot of a screen saver, note >that putting library computers on the World Community Grid will increase >their electricity bills: >http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/help/viewTopic.do?shortName=costs Yep yep, all over that, as far as not wanting to inadvertently cause problems for anyone... That link includes this quote: "... you may see a slight increase in your electricity costs. Exactly how much this increase will affect you depends on conditions where you live and how you have set your preferences." I had already planned to advise that the library/school set their settings under Device profiles to either Minimum impact or Power saver. I figure even if they choose minimum impact, a whole room of computers sitting idle a portion of the day would have at least SOME real-world impact as far as their contribution to WCG... Thanks for the reminder, good thought... -- FortKnox (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)
* Richard Gitschlag [05-10-12 11:44]: > > (Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?) It does. Why cannot you trim your posts? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.orgPhoto Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;)
(Damn it, why doesn't this mailing list have a proper reply-to address?) From: strata_ran...@hotmail.com To: cr33...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;) Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:19:21 -0700 I have personally encountered this type of case a number of times myself -- when an image is 'dirty' (unsaved changes), exporting to another format does NOT reset the image state back to 'clean' again, even if there was no data to be lost with the chosen file format. As a result, GIMP asks if you wish to save any changes (in XCF) when you quit. This is annoying and a minor hindrance to non-XCF workflows. In your case specifically, it also poses a very real risk of losing a lot of potential XCF data when you exit. But I am not sure it can be necessarily fixed. -- Stratadrake strata_ran...@hotmail.com Numbers may not lie, but neither do they tell the whole truth. > Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 16:14:25 -0500 > From: cr33...@gmail.com > To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org > Subject: [Gimp-user] Calm and rational Save/Export workflow report ;) > > Hi, > > To quickly outline today's workflow: > > The final output I need is a TIFF with 1-bit indexing, and the source is a > JPEG. > > In detail: > > 1. Open JPEG with GIMP > 2. Do some masking, etc. > 3. Save as XCF > 4. Some more masking, tweaking, etc. > 5. Save > 6. Flatten, convert to 1-bit indexed > 7. Export TIFF > 8. Close image > > On 8, I get the warning about discarding changes - which of course I > ignore to keep the info saved in step 5. I need to keep the XCF in > either color or greyscale with extra layers/paths/etc but I also need > to produce a flattened 1-bit image before exporting as TIFF. So I'm > going to see (and ignore) the warning with this sort of project. I > guess I could do a 'Save As' and name it something like > 'myproject_flat.xcf' after step 6, but it would be a useless file - I > would never need it. > > I'm not arguing either for or against the 2.8 behavior - just pointing > out at least one use case that has (seemingly) slipped through the > specification. > > Thoughts? No flame wars please :) > > Chris > ___ > gimp-user-list mailing list > gimp-user-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Really basic question
I have tried using Gimp to draw and color original art. I purchased "Beginning Gimp" by Akkana Peck, but, my ignorance is so great (or maybe my patience so short) that I am over whelmed. I'd like to know if there is a reallly basic book - for super dummies - especially to help me understand layers and how to use them. Maybe the first question I should ask, is Gimp the best program for someone who wants to draw on their tablet? Fran Olsen ol...@infionline.net___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] 2.8 opacity keyboard shortcut
Hi, First I should state that GIMP and single window mode are wonderful. Only thing (so far) that I miss in 2.8 is that previously (including 2.73) I could tab to the opacity slider of a layer and then manually adjust using (I think) ctrl-left by decrements of 10% or just left for 1%. There does not now seem to be an equivalent. As some one who commonly duplicates a layer then adjusts mode then plays with opacity by keyboard this is a bit of a loss (never did manage to figure out how to bring up the layer mode type with a keyboard so always had to use mouse for that). Thanks again, Francesco ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.8 - Default Toolbox on the right
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:31 AM, utiler wrote: > Hi everybody, > > I have just loaded 2.8 with much anticipation and found that the default > toolbox is fixed on the right-hand side of the screen adjacent to the > dockable toolbars. > > Is this normal for 2.8? It seems weird that it would now be positioned on the > right There's nothing weird. You moved it to the right from the main window while it was a floating window, and now it's docked there. Disable single-window mode, move toolbox to the left of the main window, enable SWM again. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
