[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
The new save feature is not user friendly and it just kills productivity. I can see no other purpose of it other than a political game. Because of that, GIMP just lost me after 10+ years of heavy use. I've switched over to Pixelmator. Please, let me know when you are back to something more operational to reconsider. Regards CF -- CoreForce (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Resynthesize Plugin
Hallo Zusammen, ich habe ein großes Problem mit dem Resynthesize Plugin! Ich arbeite mit einem Windowsrechner (32-Bit) und sowohl bei Gimp Version 2.6 als auch bei 2.8 funktioniert besagtes Plugin nicht richtig. Nach dem Auswählen eines Bildbereichs, klicke ich auf Filter à Abbilden à Resynthesize, dann auf OK. Nun füllt sich der ausgewählte Bereich entweder konstant mit einem Blauton, oder mit einem Muster, das immer der oberen linken Bildecke entnommen ist. Ich habe schon alles probiert, von Drehung des Bildes (Dann ändert sich natürlich die obere linke Ecke) bis zu Neuinstallation von Gimp. Nun meine Frage: Ist dieses Problem bekannt bzw. gibt es schon Lösungsvorschläge?? Grüße Chris ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Resynthesize Plugin
2012/6/21 Christopher Buß : > Hallo Zusammen, Lieber Christopher, In dieser Liste sprechen wir Englisch. > ich habe ein großes Problem mit dem Resynthesize Plugin! Ich arbeite mit > einem Windowsrechner (32-Bit) und sowohl bei Gimp Version 2.6 als auch bei > 2.8 funktioniert besagtes Plugin nicht richtig. Nach dem Auswählen eines > Bildbereichs, klicke ich auf Filter à Abbilden à Resynthesize, dann auf OK. > Nun füllt sich der ausgewählte Bereich entweder konstant mit einem Blauton, > oder mit einem Muster, das immer der oberen linken Bildecke entnommen ist. > Ich habe schon alles probiert, von Drehung des Bildes (Dann ändert sich > natürlich die obere linke Ecke) bis zu Neuinstallation von Gimp. Nun meine > Frage: Ist dieses Problem bekannt bzw. gibt es schon Lösungsvorschläge?? Did you try one of the scripts that Resynthesizer comes with? Especially the one for removing areas? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:10 PM, CoreForce wrote: > The new save feature is not user friendly and it just kills productivity. > I can see no other purpose of it other than a political game. > Because of that, GIMP just lost me after 10+ years of heavy use. > I've switched over to Pixelmator. > Please, let me know when you are back to something more operational to > reconsider. UPS delivery or email? Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-developer] (no subject)
> Von: Thorsten Wilms > On 06/21/2012 11:19 AM, Michael Schumacher wrote: > >> Von: Ben Harrington-Ellsmore > >>> Hi I have been trying to work out how to get Gimp to only show > >>> fonts from the user/fonts file rather than the vast amount of > >>> system fonts can anyone point me at the code section I need to > >>> start mucking about with? > I think you should read the original mail again. Hint: "system fonts not > shown" is not the problem, but the desired outcome. Ah, thanks for the hint. I have accidentally read a "not" into the original mail, thus it became "to get Gimp to *not* only show fonts from the user/fonts file" The configuration to check is the fonconfig settings then, for example the the global, system-wide fonts.conf file. It may contain references to the global font directories, for example /usr/share/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts (taken from http://www.freedesktop.org/software/fontconfig/fontconfig-user.html) If you comment those out, then you can (and have to) add all font directories in GIMP's settings, for example. HTH, Michael -- NEU: FreePhone 3-fach-Flat mit kostenlosem Smartphone! Jetzt informieren: http://mobile.1und1.de/?ac=OM.PW.PW003K20328T7073a ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 less productive than GIMP 2.6 (too many dialogue boxes)
To: GIMP devs and users Having recently made the upgrade to GIMP 2.8, it's immediately obvious to me as a long time user that GIMP is now a far less productive application. Some aspects that I find particularly obtrusive: -> The "Export" vs Save implementation: this alone already made me go back to 2.6, at least until this "feature" is made optional or removed from GIMP altogether. Previously, all I had to do to save an image in any desired format after editing it, was to use "Save as" exactly as I would in any other program; now I have to go through multiple dialogue windows and manually select the same options ALL THE TIME (such as the dreadful "Do Not write colour space information" for BMPs), since they aren't assumed by GIMP for future operations. Even something that should be as simple as a quick modification followed by a CTRL+S to overwrite the same image in its own native format has become an headache. -> When saving (pardon me, "exporting") images to JPG, the advanced options dialogue DOES NOT assume the defaults as selected by the user after clicking on "Save Defaults"; instead, it expects the user to click on "Load Defaults" ALL THE TIME! How obtuse can this be ? I don't want to have to manually load my defaults ALL THE TIME, that's as much troublesome and time consuming as just selecting those same options myself ALL THE TIME. If I have a "Save Defaults" option, what I want it to do is exactly what it says - GIMP *automatically* assuming those options the next time I get to save an image as JPG. That's what "defaults" in computer programs means. The way I see it, a computer application improves when it gets more intuitive and faster to use. Alas, this is not the case with such GIMP implementations as the above ones. Having to do the same operations while using more time and more steps than before is not an improvement - it's a step backwards. If it's your desire to keep this kind of counter-productive "features" in place to cater for people who can't use a computer correctly and thus need all those repetitive dialogue boxes and safety checks just as the typical Windows initiate needs to go through multiple "Yes/No" buttons just to copy, move or delete a file (because he'd otherwise ruin his own work, out of his own inepcy), then at least PLEASE make them optional in the next version or a patch so that experienced users can get them out of the way and get their GIMP productivity back. Thank you very much.___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP 2.8 less productive than GIMP 2.6 (too many dialogue boxes)
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Coocoocoo Coo wrote: > -> When saving (pardon me, "exporting") images to JPG, the advanced options > dialogue DOES NOT assume the defaults as selected by the user after clicking > on "Save Defaults"; instead, it expects the user to click on "Load Defaults" > ALL THE TIME! This bug has already been fixed. v2.8.1 will have that fix. Thank you for not shouting. Alexandre Prokoudine http://libregraphicsworld.org ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 6:12 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:10 PM, CoreForce wrote: > >> The new save feature is not user friendly and it just kills productivity. >> I can see no other purpose of it other than a political game. >> Because of that, GIMP just lost me after 10+ years of heavy use. >> I've switched over to Pixelmator. >> Please, let me know when you are back to something more operational to >> reconsider. > > UPS delivery or email? Please, don't be rude to such an esteemed and valuable former member of this community. A personal visit is the only satisfactory solution here, after all, where would open source software be if less people used it? ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >> UPS delivery or email? > > Please, don't be rude to such an esteemed and valuable former member > of this community. A personal visit is the only satisfactory solution > here Now I'm getting confused: which of us two is being ironic? > after all, where would open source software be if less people > used it? Consider this. Over a decade GIMP has been having millions of users and just a handful of developers. What's going to change if more people overreact, issue silly accusations and slam the door? Give me the worst scenario you can think of. This is free software. People do it for fun. We respect your opinions, even when you disagree with us, and we are eager to adjust things to make users happier, but there's no way you can force us to do anything. We are not your hostages, and we don't work on your terms. Alexandre ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: > >>> UPS delivery or email? >> >> Please, don't be rude to such an esteemed and valuable former member >> of this community. A personal visit is the only satisfactory solution >> here > > Now I'm getting confused: which of us two is being ironic? > >> after all, where would open source software be if less people >> used it? > > Consider this. Over a decade GIMP has been having millions of users > and just a handful of developers. What's going to change if more > people overreact, issue silly accusations and slam the door? Give me > the worst scenario you can think of. > > This is free software. People do it for fun. We respect your opinions, > even when you disagree with us, and we are eager to adjust things to > make users happier, but there's no way you can force us to do > anything. We are not your hostages, and we don't work on your terms. > My point precisely =). Sorry, I think my email was taken the wrong way, since I wrote it in the same spirit as your initial reply (would have thought 'personal visit' would give it away). I'm not for or against the new change to save/export (I use inkscape, and I'm used to that), but then again I've been using the new version for ages just to get the single-window mode (for which I and every other tiling WM user will be forever thankful). You're doing a great job, don't let the trolls get you down. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine > wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >> UPS delivery or email? >>> >>> Please, don't be rude to such an esteemed and valuable former >>> member >>> of this community. A personal visit is the only satisfactory >>> solution >>> here >> >> Now I'm getting confused: which of us two is being ironic? >> >>> after all, where would open source software be if less people >>> used it? >> >> Consider this. Over a decade GIMP has been having millions of users >> and just a handful of developers. What's going to change if more >> people overreact, issue silly accusations and slam the door? Give me >> the worst scenario you can think of. >> >> This is free software. People do it for fun. We respect your >> opinions, >> even when you disagree with us, and we are eager to adjust things to >> make users happier, but there's no way you can force us to do >> anything. We are not your hostages, and we don't work on your terms. >> > My point precisely =). Sorry, I think my email was taken the wrong > way, since I wrote it in the same spirit as your initial reply (would > have thought 'personal visit' would give it away). > > I'm not for or against the new change to save/export (I use inkscape, > and I'm used to that), but then again I've been using the new version > for ages just to get the single-window mode (for which I and every > other tiling WM user will be forever thankful). > > You're doing a great job, don't let the trolls get you down. Ditto, Been using it for a couple of years just for the single window mode. Put up a valiant resistance against the export function for a couple of hours, but then realized it was very smart move and has saved me from making unrecoverable overwrites. So beers and cheers to the new export system, long may it reign. -- Owen ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Problem with Overlay Mode in Gimp 2.8 and Gimp 2.6
Well I tested The overlay effect in gimp and in proprietary software see the difference: Gimp: http://old.nabble.com/file/p34052170/Imagem0226.jpg Adobe Photoshop: http://s18.postimage.org/nniiloujt/Imagem0227.jpg The overlay effect in Gimp is very weak. Change the formula please. The source: http://www.filehost.ws/bx4hmeznpaa4 -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Problem-with-Overlay-Mode-in-Gimp-2.8-and-Gimp-2.6-tp34052170p34052170.html Sent from the Gimp User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] HATE the new save vs. export behavior
>On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Oon-Ee Ng wrote: >>> UPS delivery or email? >> >> Please, don't be rude to such an esteemed and valuable former member >> of this community. A personal visit is the only satisfactory solution >> here >Now I'm getting confused: which of us two is being ironic? >> after all, where would open source software be if less people >> used it? >Consider this. Over a decade GIMP has been having millions of users >and just a handful of developers. What's going to change if more >people overreact, issue silly accusations and slam the door? Give me >the worst scenario you can think of. >This is free software. People do it for fun. We respect your opinions, >even when you disagree with us, and we are eager to adjust things to >make users happier, but there's no way you can force us to do >anything. We are not your hostages, and we don't work on your terms. >Alexandre I'm not going to read this whole thread. I read the one in the developer's list. Frankly, I think the whole thing is silly. To you, the other contributors, and developers, thank you for your work. I'm fine with the save/export change. I find it more logical and convenient. With previous versions, I found it slightly inconvenient/irritating when I just wanted to back my work up, Save As, name, choose format, when I just wanted xcf. I mean, first world problems, inconvenient/irritating nontheless. I see nothing wrong with adding caution while separating two different commands at the same time. I see the situation perfect for beginners and advanced users. Even the most experienced user can accidentally overwrite a file, if just once in their lives. Isn't Gimp still open source? Hasn't one of the many great things about OSS always been that you can hack it, alter it to your preferences? If you don't know how, you could always search for it. I'm not saying Gimp is perfect. There are areas I'd like to see improvement in but that's for another time. Gimp is free software that people volunteer to work on. I appreciate that and don't feel privileged enough to demand changes or threaten to take my toys and go home. Say what you will about my comments. I've said what I've wanted to say. I'm out. -- Bug_Sampson (via gimpusers.com) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How to stop automatic updates, and return to previous version?
I just opened up GIMP and to my horror it had been changed completely without my consent. First question: I assume this was some sort of automatic update. How do I turn that off, so that I have control over whether or not I want to update? Second question: How do I go back to the previous version? I absolutely HATE this new version of GIMP. I can't find basic functions, because they've been moved. I was trying to do a quick project, and I really don't appreciate being forced to learn a whole new set up. I'm appalled to find that my program's been changed without giving me any choice in the matter, and then having to sign up on a listserve to fix the problem. Why not set up a forum, where we can subscribe to just the thread that's relevant to us? My love affair with GIMP appears to be coming to a swift end here Thanx for any insight to help make this functional for me again. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list gimp-user-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list